Finally got my 30" W3000H-BN

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lobski

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And it's huge.

Input lag seems to be at a minimum, which is great.


One thing is bugging me, there is absolutely NO OSD, which means I can't calibrate and tweak to my preference. softMCCS won't work with it either. Is this common for IPS monitors?

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All 30" displays that don't have a scaler also don't have an OSD, regardless of panel type.
 
lobski said:
And it's huge.

Input lag seems to be at a minimum, which is great.


One thing is bugging me, there is absolutely NO OSD, which means I can't calibrate and tweak to my preference. softMCCS won't work with it either. Is this common for IPS monitors?
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I mentioned that before. None of the 5 single input 30" panels have OSD. Check for a disk that came with it. On the dell this at least gives you a OSD of the brightness (done as an overlay by your computer) which helps because the buttons also suck.
 
What is the difference between this LG W3000H and the NEC 3090?? All I can find is this from tftcentral:

LG: 5ms G2G 30"WS LG.Display S-IPS (LM300WQ5)

NEC: 6ms G2G 30"WS LG A-TW-IPS (LM300WQ5)

practically the same panel??? but without A-TW polarizer?? other than that is the LG the same quality as the NEC but like alot cheaper?
 
videomasterz said:
What is the difference between this LG W3000H and the NEC 3090?? All I can find is this from tftcentral
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:DLOL

As you know already (or just having fun pretending you don't know :)), monitor picture quality can vary widely despite the same panel index printed somewhere deep inside the monitor.
Even if the main index is "the same" - the extention may differ.

Monitors with the "same panel' may have different:
color reproduction quality
viewing angles
contrast ratio
depth of black
connectivity
quality of scaling
overdrive side effects/ghosting
input lag
ergonomics
eye strain effect
manufacturing quality
etc.
All that within "same panel" !!
 
albovin said:
:DLOL

As you know already (or just having fun pretending you don't know :)), monitor picture quality can vary widely despite the same panel index printed somewhere deep inside the monitor.
Even if the main index is "the same" - the extention may differ.

Monitors with the "same panel' may have different:
color reproduction quality
viewing angles
contrast ratio
depth of black
connectivity
quality of scaling
overdrive side effects/ghosting
input lag
ergonomics
eye strain effect
manufacturing quality
etc.
All that within "same panel" !!
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yeah I know that already, what I'm saying is what features does the LG 30" have that set it apart from the NEC 30" even if they use the same panel, I havnt come across a review yet.
 
videomasterz said:
yeah I know that already, what I'm saying is what features does the LG 30" have that set it apart from the NEC 30" even if they use the same panel, I havnt come across a review yet.
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The Lg is like the Dell 3007, except with the newest panel.
Unlike the 3090 There is no scaler, no osd for color (or other) adjustments.
 
Price

Low Input lag.

Other than that the NEC is by far the more feature rich display.

videomasterz said:
yeah I know that already, what I'm saying is what features does the LG 30" have that set it apart from the NEC 30" even if they use the same panel, I havnt come across a review yet.
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lobski said:
I've noticed since last night, my new W3000H 30" seems to have a green tint/tone on the screen. Now that I think about it, when I restarted my pc a yesturday, I noticed the screen kind of flickered, and the screen looked slightly greener. I tried fixing this, no anvil. I suppose this isn't a common problem. Are there other things that I can try?
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Try to calibrate your monitor.

Most monitors with brightness regulation by BL flicker at lower brightness. Some people are able to notice that with naked eye.
 
thanks Tarc and 10e for the differences.... if NEC fixes some problems and the price comes down a couple hundred I'll probably get it in the future :)
 
Hi lobski,

I have been looking to upgrade to a 30" and have been eyeing the LG W3000H BN. Spec wise it fits my needs, as my primary use for the pc is gaming and browsing.

I don't mind the lack of OSD as I can tweak through my Nvidia control settings; though admittedly it would have been nice to have something onboard. But not a deal breaker for me.
Same applies for lack of HDMI or other feature settings. Not an issue for me. My key is a good plug and play monitor.

What's your overall impression? How is it on the eyes for browsing? Any bleeding or distortion, etc..? Would love to hear your thoughts; finding a review on this puppy is brutal.

Oh.. I do have another, more general question. I'm new to the tech side of monitors. Been doing my homework and am familiar with the basics, but still a noob. I see the LG monitor lacks a scaler. So am I to assume that if I run a game outside the native resolution, this may pose issue with graphics and lag? There are still a lot of software titles that don't run at 2560x1600. The best is often 1280x1024. Long story-short, If I had to run programs at the 1280x1024 on the LG, would it pose issue?

Thanks for any info, much appreciated!
 
Any chance you can repost your pics, or upload them to Flickr or something?
I'd love to see this thing.
 
nanogasm said:
Same applies for lack of HDMI or other feature settings.
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Well, you do now that 30" displays without a scaler only can show 1280x800 and 2560x1600? I don't know but besides computers with HDMI (and they have DVI-D anyway) you won't find any HDMI device capable of outputting in those two resolutions anyway so you won't have much joy of it anyway. If you do find such a device however, an adapter will do the trick ;)
 
HDMI is not going to make any difrence if you are just using this as a comptuer monitor.. Scalers = bad because of input lag.. I just want a monitor and this looks great for that purpose.. It's on Ncix's for 1100 and 9.99 shipping .. thanks a great deal for the newer panel and what this does.. I dont want to play 1600-2k for a 30inch with a Scaler that i'm never going to use and can slow down my gamming.. This has HDCP so you can watch blu ray on it and not have to worrie. Again if you are just using it for a PC monitor for gamming and every day use I would say this is your best deal.
 
veedubfreak said:
How does this monitor compare to the samsung
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The samsung has different lcd technology, some prefers the LG IPS Panel.
Viewing angles on the new samsung 30" panels are supposed to be quite good.

The best would be to go see a 30" Ips panel (Apple, Dell, LG, etc) and 30" Samsung panel (305t or a 30" Gateway) in person to see for yourself which you prefer.
 
albovin said:
Most monitors with brightness regulation by BL flicker at lower brightness. Some people are able to notice that with naked eye.
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I've seen you state this countless times. I am flicker sensitive and yet I have never seen a backlight flicker as a result of dimming. Given a high enough BL inverter frequency (you definitely don't want to do this at 60Hz :p) and a properly designed PWM controller , this should not be a problem. I suppose this could be a case with cheap brands but hard to call it "most". Do you have a reference for this ?

As a side note, the NEC 3090 occassionally flickers though its more like a brief few flashes - maybe this is what lobski observed. Happens far more frequently when changing brightness settings in the OSD.
 
No, as far as I know theres no 30" glossy monitor available (and IMO thats a very good thing).
 
I would love to find a 26" or 30" glossy monitor. The only thing I dont like about the Dell 3007WFP-HC is the coating on the screen which I can see especially when a movie is moving behind it.
 
"Oh.. I do have another, more general question. I'm new to the tech side of monitors. Been doing my homework and am familiar with the basics, but still a noob. I see the LG monitor lacks a scaler. So am I to assume that if I run a game outside the native resolution, this may pose issue with graphics and lag? There are still a lot of software titles that don't run at 2560x1600. The best is often 1280x1024. Long story-short, If I had to run programs at the 1280x1024 on the LG, would it pose issue?"

i was wondering this, how is this panel @ say 1280X1024 ?
 
So this monitor has all pre-manufactured settings? Unless you have a good calibrator, you might get stuck with poo.
 
brumwald said:
No, as far as I know theres no 30" glossy monitor available (and IMO thats a very good thing).
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Uhhhh..... yea I just love the dirty film anti glare coating on my Dell 3007, so much better than glossy........ :-[

That said does this LG fair any better in the coating?
 
I have no issues with the anti-glare coating on the W3000H. It's matte and does not distort the image. It is also impossible to change color settings directly on this monitor. It is recommended to use a good wide gamut color calibrator even if the monitor has an on screen display.
 
TDuiker said:
"Oh.. I do have another, more general question. I'm new to the tech side of monitors. Been doing my homework and am familiar with the basics, but still a noob. I see the LG monitor lacks a scaler. So am I to assume that if I run a game outside the native resolution, this may pose issue with graphics and lag? There are still a lot of software titles that don't run at 2560x1600. The best is often 1280x1024. Long story-short, If I had to run programs at the 1280x1024 on the LG, would it pose issue?"

i was wondering this, how is this panel @ say 1280X1024 ?
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Running a game in another resolution than 12560x1600 or 1280x800 requires that the graphic card does the scaling so the different options depends on your graphic card. Modern graphic card though allows you (as far as I know) to do pretty much what most would want (keeping aspect ratio or fill the screen). This will, as far as I know, not present itself with any graphic or lag issues at all. The quality of todays graphic-card scalers are said to be of mediocre quality (picture-wise). I have no complaints though and for games/movies etc. I don't see any problem with it.

So how you're experience running this display @ 1280x1024 depends entirely on your graphic card - in general I'd say that it'd behave as you'd expect. But 1280x1024 has an aspect ratio of 5:4 and thus is the most 'squarish' aspect ratio of them all and thus it will have large black bars on the sides or a very stretched image. Better would be to run the game at 1280x800 or something so that nothing would be stretched and no black bars.

hornkiku23 said:
Uhhhh..... yea I just love the dirty film anti glare coating on my Dell 3007, so much better than glossy........ :-[
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You should.
And even if you don't, the vast majority of people (of course, this is only from my observations) learns how to deal with aggressive anti glare coating and in time doesn't even notice it if not explicitly looking for it.
 
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Where can you buy one of these at? Newegg already shows it as a deactivated item...
 
They are discontinued. LG says new LG 30 incher model due in a couple months.
 
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