NEC 24WMGX3 and thoughts on buying..

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Hello,
I'm looking for my next 24' monitor no bigger. Money is no issue/don't care. I want the best.
Will primarily game and web browse.
Do not want a TN panel.
Was thinking of a NEC LCD2490WUXi but it has input lag near 30ms at best, and a high response time.
Hazro has issues. I do not live in the UK.
Do not like the matte panel of Dell, it is too grainy.
Since Apple LED Cinema (I love glossy) has only a mini display port it won't work on a pc.(and no the adapters on the apple web are not for connecting to a PC)

Is there anything better than NEC 24WMGX3?
Will anything come at most starting of february 09 in sale that will be better? Any rumors?
Is it too much to ask for a perfect LCD regardless of price?
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is that the so called ''professional gaming'' monitor? if yes, i've read a lot of satisfied customers on the overclockers uk forum.
 
The NEC 24WMGX3 isin't available in North America yet. The only way to get it is to import it from Europe.

I think you should try out the proven displays and go from cheaper to more expensive until you find one that you like the best.

BenQ FP241VW
HP LP2475W
Doublesight DS265W/DS265N
Planar PLX2611
NEC 2490WUXi
 
Armatoste said:
The NEC 24WMGX3 isin't available in North America yet. The only way to get it is to import it from Europe.

I think you should try out the proven displays and go from cheaper to more expensive until you find one that you like the best.

BenQ FP241VW
HP LP2475W
Doublesight DS265W/DS265N
Planar PLX2611
NEC 2490WUXi
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I am in Europe, so..
either way there is always ebay...

Benq P-MVA is same technology as Nec 24WMGX3 A-MVA only worse.
HP LP2475W H-IPS wide gamut (oversaturated colors) and has inverse trailing issues
Doublesight/Planar are 26 inch not 24 inch
NEC 2490WUXi as I mentioned above wonderful display but not perfect for gaming.
 
If you are in Europe you can already get one of those then. If there's one you'd decide to get that it's in the US but not available in Europe you can always ordered it through ebay or some other place but beware the customs on your country, better want to check that out :)
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Armatoste said:
I guess that just leaves the Hazro.
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i think if you are looking for a perfect monitor you will never find that. gjergii could point out a flaw in each of those monitors and when i see that im thinking to myself "I sure don't want that". if you go around looking for a flaw you're going to find one. i'm probably going to get a new 24" as well after the holidays and will probably go with the LP2475w based on the majority of users.
 
maybe I'm asking too much sn_85,
I'll probably go with the NEC 24WMGX3, it seems the best choice atm.
If anyone has a better option please advise...
 
no2censorship said:
I actually had a question about this:

is the input lag as low as an ips panel?
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Input lag has got nothing to do with the type of panel.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/features.htm
Input Lag


This phenomenon is not widely acknowledged across review sites, but is often the subject of discussion in enthusiast forums. The premise is that an LCD display shows a degree of lag between the image being sent to the screen from the graphics card, and what is actually shown on the panel. This is most easily noticeable when comparing a TFT and CRT side by side in clone mode, and you can see that the image on the TFT is lagging a little behind the CRT in some tests. The degree of this input lag varies from one screen to another. It doesn't seem to be linked to anything in particular, but it's presence is thought to be linked most likely to screen electronics and components. Other factors such as panel technology and interface used don't seem to exhibit a particular pattern of input lag.

The best way to record this accurately is using a stopwatch application running in clone mode on both the TFT and CRT. Using a high shutter speed on a digital camera allows you to capture images of this running. You can then record the delay between what is shown on the CRT and what is shown on the TFT. This can vary from generally low < 10ms lag on average, to sometimes much higher average lag of > 50ms. Below shows a graph of average input lag across several screens tested at TFT Central (top section), and also average input lag as recorded from other sources (bottom section) on some popular and well established models:

input_lag_comparison_2.jpg


As you can see, input lag really can vary from one screen to another. Some screens such as the Viewsonic VX922 show minimal lag of 2ms, whereas others such as the Viewsonic VX2435WM show up to 36ms on average.

In practice, input lag is unlikely to affect too many users. There is quite a lot of fuss made about it on forums, but in reality I would doubt many people will see any real issues on the majority of displays. Some professional gamers who rely on being able to match their key presses and mouse movements with what is shown on the screen might suffer in some cases, so it is something to be wary of. Generally though, I would avoid worrying too much about this issue for most average users.

The following article at BeHardware is also an interesting read on the subject.
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Armatoste said:
What is the input lag like on your current gaming lcd?
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At the moment I have an HP w2207 (samsung panel) average input lag is 16ms, response time 5ms, very little backlight bleed. Black point calibrated is 0.16 cd/m2.
It is a very good monitor except for viewing angles. Plus I want a 24 inch.
 
THROUGH MODE
Mode that shortens the delay time of picture signals within the monitor. Use this mode when you are concerned
about the synchronization between the picture and audio.
NOTE: • THROUGH MODE realizes shortening of delay time by limiting the picture processing function.
As a result, several functions such as Color Control cannot be used.
In addition, there may be cases according to the type of picture where picture quality declines, such as
smoothness of tones being affected.
• Even when THROUGH MODE is used, there may be cases where the picture and audio are not
completely synchronized.
• If using the monitor for still images, it is recommended to set THROUGH MODE off.
• When THROUGH MODE is turned on, PIP is cleared and cannot be used.
• If [Real] or [2x Zoom] is selected for Screen Size, THROUGH MODE cannot be turned on.
• The following restrictions apply for DVI (AV), HDMI, and VIDEO Input.
When THROUGH MODE is turned on, [OVERSCAN] is set to [FULL (100%)].
If [AUTO] (for 16:9 input signal) or [16:9] is selected for AV Aspect Ratio, THROUGH MODE cannot be
turned on.
• If the vertical frequency is a frequency other than 60 Hz, THROUGH MODE and MP MODE
(Levels 1, 2, 3) cannot be used together. In this case, THROUGH MODE is set to [OFF] or it cannot be
selected.
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..so nothing better ?
I'll wait till tomorrow, if anyone has any suggestions then I think I'm buying it..
 
overclockers UK has a sale on this monitor so I'm tempted to import it. Anyone have experience with this kind of purchase? Would they just charge my card the current exchange rate + international shipping (making it ~$650)? What about VAT?
 
Do they even ship to the US? What about power? What kind of power would that unit use? I think America is 120v.
 
...still haven't bought it, waiting for CES.. it is said that many led backlight displays will be revealed
 
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