Physical Memory Usage WAY too high...

Jaxel

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I just formatted my computer TODAY... and re-installed VistaX64... and I have 4GB of RAM on a Quad Q6600...

Look at my task manager and resource monitor, I am remaining steady at 94% physical memory usage. Before I formatted my computer, I would have been remaining steady at around 30%... why is my memory usage so high on a clean install?
 
I have already disabled indexing in SERVICES.MSC... so its definately not that.

Besides, Vista shouldn't be using 4 gigs of RAM for indexing.
 
when I disabled Superfetch... I dropped to 91% usage... didnt fix it.
 
Post picture of your task manager, its probably defraging and indexing. Just leave it alone. Don't disable super fetch or anything.
 
yeah... according to the logs it looks like the PC was defragging... why it would need to defrag right after a clean install is beyond me... took a long time though because of my raid array.

Now I'm back down to 30%

Thanks for the help guys!
 
It defrags after a clean install just like you should. It will defrag over time as well and in the background just to keep everything organized.
 
So, just from a cursory read of the OP's replies, he's disabled the very features of Vista that make it work so well when you... <tada>

Leave it alone.

Nothing for any of us to do here...

NEXT!!!
 
I set my system to defrag every night, turned off side bar and reduced system restore to 20GB total. Beyond that I "Left it alone" and Vista is amazing and incredibly quick OS!
 
So, just from a cursory read of the OP's replies, he's disabled the very features of Vista that make it work so well when you... <tada>

Leave it alone.

Nothing for any of us to do here...

NEXT!!!

Presumably he just disabled Superfetch for testing purposes. He seems informed enough to know that it's better to leave it on.
 
Presumably he just disabled Superfetch for testing purposes. He seems informed enough to know that it's better to leave it on.

Yah, I caught that but but but... the prior comment from the OP about disabling the indexing service (which works in conjunction with SuperFetch because it tracks when files are last accessed thereby making the whole thing actually work the way it was designed) is what prompted my post.
 
Yah, I caught that but but but... the prior comment from the OP about disabling the indexing service (which works in conjunction with SuperFetch because it tracks when files are last accessed thereby making the whole thing actually work the way it was designed) is what prompted my post.

Fair point.
 
superfetch is the culprit. I always disable it on a fresh install. Havent missed it.
 
the indexing service (which works in conjunction with SuperFetch because it tracks when files are last accessed thereby making the whole thing actually work the way it was designed)

Ah, it does? I've not heard that before (though I have both turned on).
 
I just formatted my computer TODAY... and re-installed VistaX64... and I have 4GB of RAM on a Quad Q6600...

Look at my task manager and resource monitor, I am remaining steady at 94% physical memory usage. Before I formatted my computer, I would have been remaining steady at around 30%... why is my memory usage so high on a clean install?
Because Vista is a badly coded operating system. Try Windows XP x64 edition, see the other thread for that.. you'll be glad after installing that, trust me, I know many who already went that road and thanked me for pointing it out to them.
 
superfetch is the culprit. I always disable it on a fresh install. Havent missed it.

Right... not missing SuperFetch, but missing a few other things... screws.. marbles... stones... :D

I wonder if people out there who admit to such actions really understand they're crippling one of the very aspects of Vista that can account for superior performance on today's hardware. Somehow, I'd like to keep a positive hope alive, but... every day I just see more stupidity by the moment. It's downright unsettling... damned shame too.
 
When you reinstalled the OS...if your system has Intel SATA, did you install the Intel Matrix, or Intel Turbo Memory...whichever is correct for your system. Those can give a good boost if your system supports it.
 
Because Vista is a badly coded operating system. Try Windows XP x64 edition, see the other thread for that.. you'll be glad after installing that, trust me, I know many who already went that road and thanked me for pointing it out to them.
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(I really wanted to post a reply, invalidating this statement. . . but really the stupidity of the post just made me speechless.)
 
Lol... I know not to disable Superfetch... I leave it on...

But I always disable indexing... Superfetch doesn't need it.
 
Because Vista is a badly coded operating system. Try Windows XP x64 edition, see the other thread for that.. you'll be glad after installing that, trust me, I know many who already went that road and thanked me for pointing it out to them.


why is it that every vista thread has this moron saying something stupid? Does this guy have any common sense or just like this all the time.
 
Lol... I know not to disable Superfetch... I leave it on...

But I always disable indexing... Superfetch doesn't need it.

They work in conjunction with each other, so disabling the indexing can and does have detrimental effects on SuperFetch over time. Indexing keeps track of last access times, which SuperFetch then uses to determine which apps are used on a more frequent basis and tunes itself accordingly. Disabling the indexing just makes things a bit harder for SuperFetch to keep tabs on, hence it may or may not decide to cache one particular app over another even when that app is used more frequently.

In Vista, everything relates - that's how its designed, and turning shit off just wrecks it down the line.

Leave it alone.
 
Superfetch does not need Indexing to cache programs. From what I understand, Superfetch simply caches EVERY program you use. However, it will slowly start removing programs after a while of disuse. If you use a program that has been removed again, it wll simply add it back into the prefetch. This is how it determines which programs you use most often. The only "proactive" thing that Superfetch does is when it determines how long to wait before removing a program from the fetch.

How do I know Superfetch doesn't need indexing? Because INDEXING IS GONE! Microsoft removed it from Vista in Service Pack 1; it now must be manually installed. It was replaced with a service called "Windows Search"... which is used JUST for Searching, the Virtual Display of Search Results, and the Caching if FILES. It is not used for Prefetching, as it does not cache programs.
 
How do I know Superfetch doesn't need indexing? Because INDEXING IS GONE! Microsoft removed it from Vista in Service Pack 1; it now must be manually installed. It was replaced with a service called "Windows Search"... which is used JUST for Searching, the Virtual Display of Search Results, and the Caching if FILES. It is not used for Prefetching, as it does not cache programs.
Sorry but i have Vista 64bit with sp1 installed and Indexing was enabled by default still. 10,263 items indexed as of this post.
Also "windows search" is a feature that's been there before sp1, so it "didn't replace" anything

*** On a side note- I cant believe i discovered this site over 2 years ago, lol. Go [H]ard|Forum :D.
 
They work in conjunction with each other, so disabling the indexing can and does have detrimental effects on SuperFetch over time. Indexing keeps track of last access times, which SuperFetch then uses to determine which apps are used on a more frequent basis and tunes itself accordingly. Disabling the indexing just makes things a bit harder for SuperFetch to keep tabs on, hence it may or may not decide to cache one particular app over another even when that app is used more frequently.

In Vista, everything relates - that's how its designed, and turning shit off just wrecks it down the line.

Leave it alone.
That's how I've always understood it as well, and makes the most logical sense.

Superfetch does not need Indexing to cache programs. From what I understand, Superfetch simply caches EVERY program you use. However, it will slowly start removing programs after a while of disuse. If you use a program that has been removed again, it wll simply add it back into the prefetch. This is how it determines which programs you use most often. The only "proactive" thing that Superfetch does is when it determines how long to wait before removing a program from the fetch.

How do I know Superfetch doesn't need indexing? Because INDEXING IS GONE! Microsoft removed it from Vista in Service Pack 1; it now must be manually installed. It was replaced with a service called "Windows Search"... which is used JUST for Searching, the Virtual Display of Search Results, and the Caching if FILES. It is not used for Prefetching, as it does not cache programs.

What in the bloody fcuk are you talking about? Indexing disabled by default in SP1? I have a Vista SP1 disk right here. I have 4 machines that I've installed with this very disk. On all 4, indexing is enabled by default, just as it always has been.

Once again, when it comes to the internal workings, I'm going to have to believe Joe Average, unless you can cite some facts.
 
oh yes, disabling superfetch really screwed my vista install!

oh wait, what? no it didnt! it still works? How can this be? must be a christmas miracle?
 
oh yes, disabling superfetch really screwed my vista install!

oh wait, what? no it didnt! it still works? How can this be? must be a christmas miracle?

It wont not work, It will just get slower, and slower, and slower, and slower over time. Just like XP.

If you leave vista alone, It will only get faster. This is not like it used to be.
 
How do I know Superfetch doesn't need indexing? Because INDEXING IS GONE! Microsoft removed it from Vista in Service Pack 1; it now must be manually installed. It was replaced with a service called "Windows Search"

Right, there's no indexing done by the Windows Search service...

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My question is if indexing only indexes start menu and user locations by default how can that affect program access/superfetch?
 
After further research Superfetch is NOT dependant on windows search/indexing. If you disagree with this show me some documentation.
 
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