Suspect Nabbed in Candidate E-mail Hack

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I think the 20 year old kid that hacked into the e-mail account (if you can even call it a hack) of one of the presidential candidates is regretting what he did, especially considering that he is the son of a politician. Authorities are questioning the kid now.

According to reports in Knoxville's Tennessean, Democrat State Representative Mike Kernell admitted that his son, David Kernell is being questioned by authorities in connection with the crime. The Secret Service and the FBI launched an official investigation on September 17. Kernell, 20, is a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville. Rep. Kernell refused to disclose any further information about his son, including his whereabouts.
 
How did this kid think this "hack" was a good idea? Did he think the Secret Service wouldn't take an interest in him?
 
Well, that's one more thing that Knoxville has in recent months to put it into teh National spotlight...

First, The husband that killed his wife's teenage lover

Then, Gas prices rising to $5 a gal in the days before Hurricane Ike

Now, Hacker hacks Palin's Yahoo account....



God, I live in one of the most FVCKED up states in the US of A....

Can't buy beef on Sunday, Can't buy alcohol after midnight at a store (3am at bars), Parts of the city can't sell liquor by the drink other can.


Oh, and I can't forget.....

GO VOLS !!!!!
 
pwned..

The funny thing is, all the privacy advocates/outlets are just standing silent on this issue. If it were Michelle Obama's email, or Joe Biden's email, you could guarantee it would be a HUGE deal with the ACLU and every alphabetical organization down the list waiting in line for a lawsuit.
 
ACLU and such only get involved if it's a government program. If this guy were working for the CIA or Homeland, then there'd be an uproar.
 
No, the ACLU represents all citizens, whether or not something is related to federal government. They always voice out about things not related to government programs.
 
Wait... 4chan is a hacker website? I just thought it was the home of Pedobear and a whole lot of retardation.
 
How much trouble could he get it? She shouldn't have been conducting official business through personal email anyway. Not saying that he should have done it, I'm saying that stuff shouldn't have been there.
 
I think the 20 year old kid that hacked into the e-mail account (if you can even call it a hack) of one of the presidential candidates is regretting what he did, especially considering that he is the son of a politician. Authorities are questioning the kid now.

Man, I won't be voting for the McCain/Palin ticket, so this is not a political knee-jerk reaction: that 20 year adult hacker should be jailed for at least 10 years.

Yes, Palin is a fool for conducting business on an insecure email system. However, that little Democrat Representative's weasel son has just committed treason by hacking into a major government official's email account and publicly displaying the results. It doesn't matter if none of the emails were very interesting.

Fry the little turd.
 
pwned..

The funny thing is, all the privacy advocates/outlets are just standing silent on this issue. If it were Michelle Obama's email, or Joe Biden's email, you could guarantee it would be a HUGE deal with the ACLU and every alphabetical organization down the list waiting in line for a lawsuit.

No, the ACLU represents all citizens, whether or not something is related to federal government. They always voice out about things not related to government programs.

This man is aware.
 
pwned..

The funny thing is, all the privacy advocates/outlets are just standing silent on this issue. If it were Michelle Obama's email, or Joe Biden's email, you could guarantee it would be a HUGE deal with the ACLU and every alphabetical organization down the list waiting in line for a lawsuit.

Privacy advocates dont target kids not old enough to drink for such things because the borders they watch over are the ones crossed by the govt and corporations.

You know, like the ones Bush tramples on when he says you can be wiretapped for no reason and no explanation or warrant need be given?

Besides, it takes intelligence to 'hack' ... the only intelligence republicants believe in is 'intelligent design' ... and thats an oxymoron in itself.
 
why are the fbi and stuff involved?


he got onto a public yahoo email account. is that even illegal in any way?
 
Privacy advocates dont target kids not old enough to drink for such things because the borders they watch over are the ones crossed by the govt and corporations.

You know, like the ones Bush tramples on when he says you can be wiretapped for no reason and no explanation or warrant need be given?

Besides, it takes intelligence to 'hack' ... the only intelligence republicants believe in is 'intelligent design' ... and thats an oxymoron in itself.

Your argument is B.S. Yes, the ACLU sometimes does good. So? It's still a far left organization that does very little to protect right-wing free speech issues. The reason conservatives HATE the ACLU is because the ACLU claims to fight for everyone's constitutional rights, when in fact, being of the right generally disqualifies you from ACLU protection. F*cking hypocrisy - that's why the ACLU is so divisive.
 
why are the fbi and stuff involved?


he got onto a public yahoo email account. is that even illegal in any way?

Because republicans only know how to deal with ppl they themselves dont understand or associate with, though the paranoid lenses of the FBI & CIA. It should be obvious.
 
Your argument is B.S. Yes, the ACLU sometimes does good. So? It's still a far left organization that does very little to protect right-wing free speech issues. The reason conservatives HATE the ACLU is because the ACLU claims to fight for everyone's constitutional rights, when in fact, being of the right generally disqualifies you from ACLU protection. F*cking hypocrisy - that's why the ACLU is so divisive.

What right-wing speech is the ACLU not protecting?

The ringht-wing issues with the ACLU stem not from them not protecting right-wing speech, but from the ACLU protecting the speech of those critical of the right-wing.
 
Because republicans only know how to deal with ppl they themselves dont understand or associate with, though the paranoid lenses of the FBI & CIA. It should be obvious.

??? I hate stereotypes. This is a prime example of the type of B.S. that has undermined meaningful political conversations on the web. As someone who sometimes votes Republican, I can assure you I am not a 'white male christians first, last, and only' conservative. But that doesn't jive with your preconceived hate, does it, brother?
 
What right-wing speech is the ACLU not protecting?

The ringht-wing issues with the ACLU stem not from them not protecting right-wing speech, but from the ACLU protecting the speech of those critical of the right-wing.

I am NOT Christian (or any other religion), so on a religuous basis, this does not concern me. However, this story is a great example of why the ACLU is hated by the right. It's certainly not because the ACLU has the audacity to stand up for Muslims to openly practice their religion or for pacifists to protest our current wars. It's because the ACLU attacks the right, and does not defend it. I've seen plenty of other examples, such as the ACLU's refusal to help a man who wanted to fly the flag in his private, front yard but was banned by his (left wing) town's local ordances. It was CLEARLY a free speech issue, and the ACLU wouldn't TOUCH IT.

Hypocracy like that is why right wingers hate the ACLU. Sure, there are some nutjobs and jerkoffs who don't understand the foundation of this country's success and hate the ACLU for protecting minorities, but that group certainly does not represent the lion's share of conservatives.
 
The FBI they would not be involved if it was a normal person just shows how corrupt the us goverment is, if it was my account u think the fbi would be there not.
 
??? I hate stereotypes. This is a prime example of the type of B.S. that has undermined meaningful political conversations on the web. As someone who sometimes votes Republican, I can assure you I am not a 'white male christians first, last, and only' conservative. But that doesn't jive with your preconceived hate, does it, brother?

Are you sure its me whose running on prejudice? ... I'm pretty sure the target kid is a white male and wasnt likely to be a minority. By not understand, I mean exactly what you're showing. Where did you read that I said anything about anyone being a white male christian? ... or did you think that when i accused the republican base of dealing with anyone they didnt understand through the lenses of paranoia, as an opportunity for you to release your knee jerk reaction to do EXACTLY THAT.
 
I am NOT Christian (or any other religion), so on a religuous basis, this does not concern me. However, this story is a great example of why the ACLU is hated by the right. It's certainly not because the ACLU has the audacity to stand up for Muslims to openly practice their religion or for pacifists to protest our current wars. It's because the ACLU attacks the right, and does not defend it. I've seen plenty of other examples, such as the ACLU's refusal to help a man who wanted to fly the flag in his private, front yard but was banned by his (left wing) town's local ordances. It was CLEARLY a free speech issue, and the ACLU wouldn't TOUCH IT.

Hypocracy like that is why right wingers hate the ACLU. Sure, there are some nutjobs and jerkoffs who don't understand the foundation of this country's success and hate the ACLU for protecting minorities, but that group certainly does not represent the lion's share of conservatives.

What points that the right-wing makes would you like to see defended? ...

Before you answer, keep in mind, the ACLU by its understood doctrine cannot support the advocacy of intolerance.
 
I just find it amusing, the tiraid over violating her privacy, from the very people who proclaim there IS NO RIGHT TO PRIVACY. :cool:

It's doubly hilarious when you realize her own party's secret illegal wiretapping/internet snooping program had ALREADY read all her emails, even the ones on the State of Alaska email system, nevermind Yaywhoo.

So anyone who really wants them, just ask the NSA for a copy. :eek::rolleyes::p

What would have been more useful would be to hack the previous acct she had, the one where she conducted secret govt business and illegal activities in an effort to thwart the Alaska open government rules... aka the Karl Rove gambit...and dump the 1,100 emails she is trying to hide from the Alaska State Legislature's inquiry and subpoena's.

As for the goof... wow, scriptkiddie goes to jail, film at 11. He's going to discover just how onerous the computer-fraud and hacking laws are. But he'll get a good edumacation into the intricacies and interrelations between the various gangs in American society.

I think an Arian Brotherhood membership is in his near future. :D
 
Wow, it didn't take long for this thread to degenerate into the typical left/right pissing match.



 
What points that the right-wing makes would you like to see defended? ...

Before you answer, keep in mind, the ACLU by its understood doctrine cannot support the advocacy of intolerance.

oh really?

The ACLU is very well known for defending the rights of american nazis to march through jewish neighborhoods. See skokie v. illinois, it's a famous case. You shouldn't be discussing this if you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
oh really?

The ACLU is very well known for defending the rights of american nazis to march through jewish neighborhoods. See skokie v. illinois, it's a famous case. You shouldn't be discussing this if you have no idea what you're talking about.

WORD!
 
oh really?

The ACLU is very well known for defending the rights of american nazis to march through jewish neighborhoods. See skokie v. illinois, it's a famous case. You shouldn't be discussing this if you have no idea what you're talking about.

Actually, thats an excellent example. While their message is atrocious. Their right to say it is protected, no less than the right of the right wing to do the same at abortion clinics where people make only their own life choices.

Dont try to throw a red hering and pretend the ACLU is protecting 'the message' white it is obvious to anyone with an understanding beyond highschool that they are only protecting the right to state any message, no matter the atrocious nature. Less someone userps power and uses atrociousness as an excuse to curb free speech.
 
The FBI they would not be involved if it was a normal person just shows how corrupt the us goverment is, if it was my account u think the fbi would be there not.

That is a classic example of a run on sentence with stream of thought.

I love it.

It should be, of course:

"The FBI <-they> would not be involved if it was a normal person. This just shows how corrupt the US government is. If this was my account, do you think they would be there? NOT!"

Well, still a bit broken English...
 
The funny thing is, all the privacy advocates/outlets are just standing silent on this issue. If it were Michelle Obama's email, or Joe Biden's email, you could guarantee it would be a HUGE deal with the ACLU and every alphabetical organization down the list waiting in line for a lawsuit.

I would hardly call this silent:

"The recent hacking of Gov. Sarah Palin’s email accounts is the latest in a series of events that show how urgently we need better privacy protections in this country – and that privacy is an issue that transcends partisan politics."
http://blog.aclu.org/2008/09/19/privacy-is-not-partisan/

It took me 10 seconds with a google search for "palin ACLU" to find this. I'm guessing the ACLU has not stepped in to defend Palin on this instance BECAUSE THE FBI AND SECRET SERVICE ARE DOING IT. The ACLU steps in when the proper authorities fail to defend civil rights; that failure has not happened here.

Garrett Jax said:
It's certainly not because the ACLU has the audacity to stand up for Muslims to openly practice their religion or for pacifists to protest our current wars. It's because the ACLU attacks the right, and does not defend it.

Just to clarify - are you applauding or criticizing the ACLU's audacity in those two cases?

Also, has it not occurred to you that perhaps the ACLU defends the left more often than the right because the right is attacking the left's civil rights and not vice versa?
 
You know, like the ones Bush tramples on when he says you can be wiretapped for no reason and no explanation or warrant need be given?

You mean FISA Amendments Act of 2008. The one Obama swore he was against and would do anything to stop it, and then he voted for it.
 
Congrats, you found someone's blog. rofl.

The arguments put forth thus far only further enforce my argument that far left organizations that claim they protect "all citizens" do anything but that. It's all hypocritical politics.

And the FBI always gets involved, even for normal people. There have been several instances where the FBI has been involved with similar cases like this at two of the places I've worked so far in my short career.
 
I think the FBI has to get involved in this because the candidate is stupid enough to use her personal email account to conduct daily business activities. This kind of information leak could pose a risk to Alaska, any of her political affiliates, and blackmail her children and relatives.

Had she used her government email address for political stuff, there would be greater account security at the cost of the government being able to check weither or not she is obeying the law (stolen funds, etc.). Maybe someone should have told her to not fill out the forgotten password questions with accurate info when half the world is about to know the inside scoop of your daily activities. This could have been much worse if it was someone who wanted the information instead of just snooping around for the fun of it.
 
I think the FBI and the CIA should have there hands tied so all americans can have privacy. Their snopping into phone calls and emails alike are a clear invasion of our rights as Americans. So what if they can't stop terrorists from blowing up and killing Americans, our right to privacy is more inportant than stopping terrorism. WHAT AM I NUTS! I have nothing to hide so i do not fear my government. Remember there is no perfect government, but I wouldn't trade my government system for any other.
This of course is just my biased opinion, which unfortunately is held by too few.
 
I think the FBI and the CIA should have there hands tied so all americans can have privacy. Their snopping into phone calls and emails alike are a clear invasion of our rights as Americans. So what if they can't stop terrorists from blowing up and killing Americans, our right to privacy is more inportant than stopping terrorism. WHAT AM I NUTS! I have nothing to hide so i do not fear my government. Remember there is no perfect government, but I wouldn't trade my government system for any other.
This of course is just my biased opinion, which unfortunately is held by too few.

you have exactly the wrong attitude.

may i suggest china?
 
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