HP LP2475w (Possible new IPS)

Yeah it's true the Dell revision was suppose to fix the high input lag. I am not sure whether it was fixed so maybe someone who knows can answer that for you.

The HP isn't that much more expensive then the Dell and is H-IPS and with less serious issues then the Dell :x you won't have to worry about whether input lag was fixed because someone already tested input lag on the HP and found it good.
 
I like what has been said of the Hp so far, but only one person on this thread has gushed over it so far. Most don't have it either, so I am likely going to have to just find out for myself. If by tomorrow night I don't read anything that changes my mind I will probably go ahead and get it.
 
Well i got word my HP LP2475W tomorow so i can give my own experience with it :X once it arrives.

I'll be able to compare it against my Dell 2405FPW which is a PVA monitor.
 
Can others who have their HP see if they have a similar issue to me? I noticed on solid color tests (Mostly grey and white) that there is a darker horizontal mottled/streaking effect towards the right hand side of the monitor. At first I thought it was persistence of image. But I have the taskbar and browser window showing for hours and noticed none of that issue (No lines or icons etc showing on a solid colour).

It shows up best on the colour Windows default grey which I have to generate in a paint program (R115,G115,B115,O:255).

I tried to take a photo but it's very difficult to see. I can see it as a slight mottling/streaking variation in this photo though (Ignore the dark edge and corner).

Anyone else? Could it be the light strips I am seeing?

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Can any USA buyer confirm the USA version is an IPS panel? Once that is done, I will definitely order it.
 
Nick63
Which is better the DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP at $650 or the HP LP2475w at $750? This is for all around use. How do they compare without considering the price difference? The prices I list are approximate costs after taxes and shipping.
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So far about HP LP2475w:
Taking all posts together we have a preliminary "review" that gives us quite a good idea of this monitor. It looks like 90% of the work is done.

We have a mid-level universal 24" (H-?)IPS monitor.

The good.
Color accuracy is OK for the native mode (impressive dE~0.4).
Very good black level.
No overscan/distortion problem since it has 2 DVI inputs.
Input lag is quite low (19-22ms).

Still to be reviewed.
Brightness regulation range.
Workability of video inputs other than DVI (overscan/distortion on Component and HDMI).
Check for unexpected bugs.

The bad.
Wide color gamut.
sRGB mode is dummy.

Unfortunately it lacks so desirable "polarizer" that could have added much value to this product.

Users are still not able to tell us about brightness range and HDMI/Component warkability.

Unexpected bugs mentioned so far:
1. Grey ghosting and horizontal streaking reported by deadman3000.
2. Green ripple on darker colors reported at an european forum.

I considered it because I am ignorant and have read a number say the latest revision of the Dell is pretty good now.
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So don't pay attention to even more ignorant remarks "2408...has high input lag that makes gaming and even non gaming a pain." For a gaming noob, input lag is everything:D.

HP has an advantage of the panel technology used (IPS over PVA). HP generally is favourable, but wait until not tested areas are tested.
 
albovin said:
So don't pay attention to even more ignorant remarks "2408...has high input lag that makes gaming and even non gaming a pain." For a gaming noob, input lag is everything:D.
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Sorry, I'm no gamer, but even I found the input lag on the original 2408 unnaceptable. It was very disconcerting to move a window and have the action take a while to actually happen on screen.

I also tried a little bit of ET:QW and was definitely getting fragged a lot more, plus missing people whilst sniping. Just because you seem oblivious to input lag, don't assume that the rest of us are.

I agree however, that once you get down to the 15-30ms range it really isn't humanly noticable.
 
i have the hp lp3065c and it is by far the best product i have ever seen. hopefully they continued that with this smaller monitor....
 
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You can always just not read what i say :x *shrug i don't see the big deal. Theres a thing called glossing over irrelevant stuff your not interested to know :/ theres no need for name calling and stuff...

I was just watching Kane's Wrath FMVs and notice some sort of black artifacts i haven't noticed before :eek: gonna check if it has them on the new monitor.

Anyway its here soon ... ugh.... can't wait ....
 
Nick63 said:
BTW is HP the only seller in the US right now?
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CDW is now listing the monitor for $629.99. They say they'll have them in stock in 1-3 days.

As for HP.com, I ordered on the 2nd (the day the monitor was added to the US HP store), and it has yet to ship =\
 
Moogle Stiltzkin said:
You can always just not read what i say :x *shrug i don't see the big deal. Theres a thing called glossing over irrelevant stuff your not interested to know :/
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I can sort of see where he's coming from, although I'd have been a bit more polite. I've recently been researching the purchase of a new HDTV over at the UK's AVForums - some of the model-specific threads run to several hundred pages, and I swear at least two-thirds of it is junk posts like "Just ordered mine!!!", "Getting mine tomorrow, can't wait!@##" etc. It bloats the threads completely unnecessarily, and turns finding useful information into a miserable chore.

Having said that, I've just ordered one, can't wait... :D
 
ITS HERE I GOT IT !!! SETTING IT UP NOW :D WILL POST PICTURES SOON!


My first views.

Opening package its all neat inside and surprisingly lots of cables all well protected :D

HDMI to HDMI, DVI to DVI, DVI to Analog, Display port to Display port cable ;)

Besides that there is the monitor, the stand and the installation disc.


Popping the monitor onto the stand was easy. It clicked into place. Removing it is easy also, you just flip the switch at the back and you can take it out :] My Dell 2405FPW has no such thing, which makes me appreciate this more especially if i want to install onto a vesa mounting later on :D

My impressions of the stand compared to the Dell 2405FPW was that it wasn't as big as i had thought it would be. Compared to my Dell 2405 yes the base takes more space but nothing serious.

To adjust height you push down on the monitor from above lightly, then press the button at the front of the base to lift it up. It's very easy to do ;) no issues there.

Plugged in dvi to dvi cable, and the monitor fired up and auto detected the inputs :cool:

I noticed the colors looked more colorful instantly :eek: It is bright but to me not eye burning bright, but i may need to calibrate it in 30 minutes anyway ;)


Will update soon once i play with it more :eek:

*testing in Counter Strike 1.6

*update:

Ok playing this in counter strike has no ghosting or lag issues. Who said you needed a Tn panel only for gaming ;) I got the best of both worlds.



*calibration


Waited 30 minutes then used x-rite Eye One Display 2 to calibrate with Eye Match software. I didn't use the provided hp assistant calibration tool since i have no idea what to do with it unless someone want to give some tips :D

target:

D65

2.2 gamma

120



So anyway reset to factory. Then checked contrast, it was ok by default, next was RGB.

R = 242

G =221

B = 255

Brightness = 2


I used basIIColor to verify the final result as shown in the screenshot. Contrast isn't the full 1000, i wonder if it can be improved any thoughts ? :confused:





Hm i don't see any grain by the way, someone asked this earlier :cool:



reviewing 1080P movie Ultra Violet encoded using H264 MKV.
 
Hi MoogleStiltskin, any change you can post your ICC/ICM profile generated by the spyder for us please? It may help those without a calibrator (including me until my Eye One Display LT gets ordered)!
 
Thanks for the info Moogle,

Your calibration results are very good, especially considering EyeOne Match is not the most sophisticated package, but they are almost as good as my NEC after full calibration, which is encouraging.

Grain on video is generally from the video source, and monitors' don't do as much post-processing as TVs so expect it, but it's not the monitor's fault.

Right now your monitor's contrast is being robbed by "panel blocking" mode. This is a fancy way of explaining that the monitor's minimum brightness is too high for 120cdm/2 white point. If that happens, the calibration software will modify the graphics card to send a light shade of grey that matches the white point of 120cdm/2 on your particular screen for its particular brightness. This will reduce and remove contrast.

You have two choices:

1) Calibrate to a higher level of brightness (such as 140cdm/2)
2) Set the monitor's minimum brightness at 0% (as opposed to 2%) and check the luminance of white with BCC and your colorimeter. BCC removes the profile out of the graphics card's LUT when it measures so you don't need to do it when measuring white level with BCC. In BCC this is done with the left hand buttons. Under "Settings" > "Luminance/Contrast ratio" > "Measure" button.

When you've measure minimum brightness (and told us what it is LOL) then calibrate to that target if EyeOneMatch will allow it.

So how does it compare to the 2405FPW :)

Thanks.
 
10e - It's like comparing a piece of shit to gold :D

Maybe that is too harsh. The Dell 2405FPW wasn't that bad for a first lcd monitor :D

But i felt the monitor to be more responsive, more colors, good overall compared to my old one.



philjohn - I don't have a spyder. I am using X-rite Eye One Display 2 calibrator i bought last month and calibrated using eye match, and checked the result using basICColor.

Anyway i've uploaded my calibrated HP LP2475W icc profile here. The result for this icc is explained in my previous post above :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/143595144/Monitor_9-8-2008_1.icc.html


10e - I will try to do as you suggested and post back the result.
 
10e said:
2) Set the monitor's minimum brightness at 0% (as opposed to 2%) and check the luminance of white with BCC and your colorimeter.

BCC removes the profile out of the graphics card's LUT when it measures so you don't need to do it when measuring white level with BCC. In BCC this is done with the left hand buttons. Under "Settings" > "Luminance/Contrast ratio" > "Measure" button.

When you've measure minimum brightness (and told us what it is LOL) then calibrate to that target if EyeOneMatch will allow it.
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This is what i did which is what i think your instructions meant.

1. factory reset.

2. Set brightness to 0 in the monitor osd.

3. Used basiccolor and measure luminance.



Luminance / contrast ratio >> Specify >> white and black luminance.

White luminance 140 cd/m2 then i clicked measure. I clicked save and i got back 120cmd2


3. Calibrate to that 120 cmd2 luminance using Eye Match.



10e said:
2) Set the monitor's minimum brightness at 0% (as opposed to 2%) and check the luminance of white with BCC and your colorimeter.
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For this bit did you mean i set monitor to 0 brightness before i did step 2 i mentioned above ?


RGB

R 242

G 210

B 252

Brightness: 7


Final result



I think it got slightly worse :eek:


Bleh i give up. I'll wait till tft central does their review and i will just copy ;) i'm a nublet.
 
Moogle Stiltzkin said:
So phil, did your screen improve with my profile o_O; ?
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Unfortunately not, our ambient light conditions must be very different, but thank you very much for posting it, the RGB values alone tone down the reds and greens to an acceptable level.

This however has made me speed up my purchase of an Eye One Display, will probably order sometime next week (when my supplier of choice should have them back in stock).
 
Yeah when i turned it on for the first time and also checked the result it was very saturated. After calibration it's been tamed :)
 
So does anybody know why there are two mfg part #s? Or is it like somebody said before and it's just HP's way of charging more to business customers. I can't find any differences in the specs of the two but on all the sites the price is about $100 more.

KD911A4#ABA & KD911A8#ABA
 
verse said:
So does anybody know why there are two mfg part #s? Or is it like somebody said before and it's just HP's way of charging more to business customers. I can't find any differences in the specs of the two but on all the sites the price is about $100 more.

KD911A4#ABA & KD911A8#ABA
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It's just the way HP do it, it's been covered many times on various forums for various products - one price through resellers, one price for "haggling" direct through them.
 
Few pages back.

It arrived this afternoon, probably the first one delivered to an end user in the UK.

First impressions are favourable, no bad pixels, no backlight problems, settings out of the box are bit on the bright and colourful side - I have just run the supplied software calibration and set a revised profile which has calmed things down somewhat.

For those that were concerned on dpreview and other fora that the two model numbers on the HP UK site at very different prices meant two different specifications need not worry (according to HP !). The HP code KD911A4 is the monitor at the normal retail price of £476 + VAT whereas the KD911AT is the same monitor at a promotional price of £389 + VAT available through nominated retailers. They indicated that they have a set number of monitors available in the UK (they have no knowledge of what is happening elsewhere) at the promotional launch price and then they will revert to the normal price. I bought mine for £365 + VAT from MacWarehouse.

One final thought at the moment - for those wanting a really smart, shiny, elegant piece of kit, look elsewhere. The LP2475w is just a functional piece of hardware, which is all I wanted.
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My HP LP2475W is the KD911A4 but on the email i received it said promotion item o_O: also the price given was RM 2450 but on the website the price stated Rm 3000.
 
will they ever offer this at HP home? My dad gets an HP discount, but it only seems for HP Home
 
I bought this monitor last week.

The stand is not that ugly, like said before, it just looks professional but the height and cable management are nicely built.

I don't have any colorimeter yet, so I can't tell you anything about black level etc.

It doesn't make any buzzing, neither heating that much.

But, I found that the sharpness of the text (not only) is not that good, on mine.
That's hard to explain (can't take pic.), so I made you an exemple:

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lp2475wtextqa6.jpg
(I exaggerated the effect, so you could see the difference.)

The text seems blurred, especially with black background, and inside a black text.
 
I had sat down to order the lp2475w today and checked this thread one last time before I was going to go ahead and place the order and I read what I quote below. This is a concern as good text quality is a necessity. Just reasonably good text quality would be ok, but if what is reported applies to this monitor in general it will cause me to look elsewhere for a monitor no matter how good it is on eveything else. An earlier poster advised me to wait for more reviews and I will now.

Ashana said:
But, I found that the sharpness of the text (not only) is not that good, on mine.
That's hard to explain (can't take pic.), so I made you an exemple:

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lp2475wtextqa6.jpg
(I exaggerated the effect, so you could see the difference.)

The text seems blurred, especially with black background, and inside a black text.
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The courier managed to deliver my LP2475 on Friday afternoon, and after some initial calibration i've obtained the following calibration result :


Brightness 10
RGB:
R 211
B 218
B 233

I've used an X-rite EOD2 with the luminance and RGB precalibration done in BCC and the actual profiling in the Eye One Mach 3.
Without calibration the validation results were :


So far I'm very happy with this HP, tried it in Oblivion and Bioshock, no apparent input lag and no ghosting. Text is very crisp on every background.
The only downsize is the grey/silver tint apparent on blacks at wide viewing angles. This effect is only noticeable in a dark room with a completely black background and doesn't seem to affect any other color.

Heh, and this concludes my first post on Hforum :)
 
Nick63 said:
I had sat down to order the lp2475w today and checked this thread one last time before I was going to go ahead and place the order and I read what I quote below. This is a concern as good text quality is a necessity. Just reasonably good text quality would be ok, but if what is reported applies to this monitor in general it will cause me to look elsewhere for a monitor no matter how good it is on eveything else. An earlier poster advised me to wait for more reviews and I will now.
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not like that for me, but I have the red and green turned down in the OSD.
 
Congrats Inq. Glad you are enjoying 'er!

One piece of advice, and something I recently confirmed as my own mistake with BCC. Don't use 2.2 as your calibration gamma curve. Use the sRGB IEC standard. The 2.2 gamma curve crushes blacks, and when showing stock calibration, with no profile applied, will show the darks as being more off kilter than it should.

I recently realized this myself so I thought I'd pass it on, so not trying to tell you that you are screwing up :)

Otherwise thanks very much for the results and all the best !
 
I've only used BCC to measure luminance, adjust the RGB values and validation. The actual profiling was done in Eye One Mach 3. ( the RGB and luminance measurements are subpar in EOM3)
 
Ashana said:
I bought this monitor last week.

The stand is not that ugly, like said before, it just looks professional but the height and cable management are nicely built.

I don't have any colorimeter yet, so I can't tell you anything about black level etc.

It doesn't make any buzzing, neither heating that much.

But, I found that the sharpness of the text (not only) is not that good, on mine.
That's hard to explain (can't take pic.), so I made you an exemple:

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lp2475wtextqa6.jpg
(I exaggerated the effect, so you could see the difference.)

The text seems blurred, especially with black background, and inside a black text.
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Why can't you take a picture ??

Manipulated image is pointless..
 
Ashana said:
But, I found that the sharpness of the text (not only) is not that good, on mine.
That's hard to explain (can't take pic.), so I made you an exemple:

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lp2475wtextqa6.jpg
(I exaggerated the effect, so you could see the difference.)

The text seems blurred, especially with black background, and inside a black text.
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That's not the monitor. Turn off ClearType if you don't like antialiased text.
 
Hi;

I finally got my HP2475W :) but really messed up with configuration, so how is the best way by using software. My setups on HP display assistant:

6500
B:50
C:81
R:231
G:226
b:234
blcktored:19
blcktogreen:41
blcktoblue:25

I think the green color is not look so right, i mean on msn's green online buttons are looking little blue ( at least looking unusual than my old CRT)...but haven't notice on images. My cheap TN 19'' are looking so realistic on greens..weird..but other colors are awesome..maybe little too bright...my retina will burn :p

so is there anybody help me to reconfigure to setup at the beginning.

thanks in advance
 
Nick63 said:
I had sat down to order the lp2475w today and checked this thread one last time before I was going to go ahead and place the order and I read what I quote below. This is a concern as good text quality is a necessity. Just reasonably good text quality would be ok, but if what is reported applies to this monitor in general it will cause me to look elsewhere for a monitor no matter how good it is on eveything else. An earlier poster advised me to wait for more reviews and I will now.
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Oh, this monitor shows really sharp texts...maybe the best side of this monitor...;)
 
culthero said:
Hi;

I finally got my HP2475W :) but really messed up with configuration, so how is the best way by using software. My setups on HP display assistant:

6500
B:50
C:81
R:231
G:226
b:234
blcktored:19
blcktogreen:41
blcktoblue:25

I think the green color is not look so right, i mean on msn's green online buttons are looking little blue ( at least looking unusual than my old CRT)...but haven't notice on images. My cheap TN 19'' are looking so realistic on greens..weird..but other colors are awesome..maybe little too bright...my retina will burn :p

so is there anybody help me to reconfigure to setup at the beginning.

thanks in advance
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My current "night" settings are:

Brightness: 25
Contrast: 50
RGB - stock
RGB Black levels (second set of sliders)
Red: 29
Green: 19
Blue: 50

White point: 6500
 
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