Xigmatek HDT-S1283

ok so I'm thinking of ditching a Scythe Zipang for this, should I?

is this cooler really as good as the TRUE? I mean I need someone to just say in plain english without any facts that this is better or on par with the TRUE

also yeah would this be better than a Zipang?
 
Das Capitolin said:
Hopefully this will be helpful to you; we have posted an article comparing many of the top CPU coolers recommended in our Best CPU Cooler Performance - Q1 2008 roundup.
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I was wondering if you could clarify something for me, as I could not find the info in the article (sorry if I missed it). What direction would the fan be blowing in a case? (ie top or rear of a tower). The difference in the desktop vs. tower orientation makes sense, but made me wonder if the rear vs. top facing would make a difference also.
 
Regarding push-pins vs tr 775 bolt-thru kit.

The S1283 HS w/ the fan is only 600G. It's incredibly LIGHT. I don't think anyone will have a problem with using the installed pushpins in a vertical case. I do however recommend the TR bolt-thru. I don't know, maybe because I have it, I'm biased. I just like knowing it's on there really well.

When you remove the pushpins, use a small flat-blade screwdriver, and save them. You don't have to cut them off. They are re-usable if the need ever arises.

sidewinder computers have the best price for them, but opt for USPS 1st Class shipping. It cost only $1.50 and arrives in 2 days. No need for UPS ground shipping which cost more and takes longer.

As for the fan, I found that it's pretty good. I bought a Scyth Ultra Kraze 3000. At full speed with the same ambient room temp, it only dropped my temp by 1C. The big problem though was my PC sounded like a vacuum cleaner!!

Fortunately, i have it hooked up to a fan controller. At the same sound level as the original stock fan, the temps were exactly the same.

Of course, case airflow would make a big difference, so your mileage may vary.

Finally, as to which HSF is better than that HSF... that something that is subjective to your case setup. One HSF may perform better in one case setup, while performing horribly in another case setup.

I hear the TRUE-120 is king of the hill, but you have to lap it and buy a fan. The thing already costs $55. For $35, right out of the box, the HDT-S1283 w/included fan will perform the same. (The Kingwin RVT-12025 is a rebadged Xigmatek).

I can't help but recommend the damn thing for the price.

BTW, Xigmatek is releasing a NEWER IMPROVED version of the S1283. It's the HDT-S1284. Instead of 3x 8mm pipes, it'll have 4x 8mm pipes in a staggard positioning (somewhat like the TRUE-120). Release date is unknown.
 
I have a Rocketfish case and it's the simple basic ATX airflow. My problem is though that I might want to ass sound dampening material on my case and the Zipang is positioned to blow out heat toward the panel. I'm concerned about both space and the cooling; the Rocketfish case doesn't have the fans on the side panel to suck all that heat out.
 
hehe... ass sound dampening material. :p

ya - on second thought, probably no point in changing the fan on mine... this 690 has amazing airflow already: 3 of these 90cfm sunon fans blowing out the top and back, so there's probably a chance i could run the S1283 fanless and it would still be about the same...

hopefully once the as5 burns in, i should be getting temps under 50c at load...
 
smsTarrant said:
I was wondering if you could clarify something for me, as I could not find the info in the article (sorry if I missed it). What direction would the fan be blowing in a case? (ie top or rear of a tower). The difference in the desktop vs. tower orientation makes sense, but made me wonder if the rear vs. top facing would make a difference also.
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Our test system was nothing more than an ATX frame, so there wasn't any influence from case fans. To answer your question though, the cooler was orientated so that the fan would blow to the rear of the case.

The king is dead. RIP TRUE.
 
Wow, this damn sure took me by surprise. After seeing those idiots on the first page of this thread put the Ultra 120 ahead of the extreme I had no faith. But this new test for best cooler of Q1 2008 looks legit. I'll be picking up the HDT-S1284 the day it's available, can't wait to try this bad boy out! Thanks for the info guys!!
 
Can anyone tell me the + about the nickel heat pipes that the s1284 is going to have?
 
Hey guys.....i am looking to possibly get this s1283 cooler but wanted to ask how good the supplied fan is, especially in terms of noise levels? I'd prefer the cooler fan o be quiet as possible

If it is indded loud what other fan would you reocmmend to go along with this from performance/noise point of view?

Thanks!
 
Gambit2008 said:
Hey guys.....i am looking to possibly get this s1283 cooler but wanted to ask how good the supplied fan is, especially in terms of noise levels? I'd prefer the cooler fan o be quiet as possible

If it is indded loud what other fan would you reocmmend to go along with this from performance/noise point of view?

Thanks!
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The fan that comes with the Xigmatek is inaudible over the other fans in my Rocketfish tower. The other fans are 3 Lian Li 120mm fans and a the stock fan on a 9600GT. The Xigma stock fan is PWM as well, so you can have your motherboard keep the speed low unless you need it.

So basically unless you already silenced everything else in your PC, I would not worry about it. Its a 120mm fan so it spin slow compared to running a 92mm for a CPU cooler.
 
Runedrune said:
Can anyone tell me the + about the nickel heat pipes that the s1284 is going to have?
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There will be four 8-gauge nickel-plated copper heatpipes. See here: http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-achilless1284.php

Nickel is not the best conductor, and it traps-in heat similar to chrome.

Gambit2008 said:
Hey guys.....i am looking to possibly get this s1283 cooler but wanted to ask how good the supplied fan is, especially in terms of noise levels? I'd prefer the cooler fan o be quiet as possible

If it is indded loud what other fan would you reocmmend to go along with this from performance/noise point of view?
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The supplied fan is an SD1212HX-A7BGL fan, with a 0.44A rating. It's about average for 120mm fan noise, but I like the Noctua NF-P12 a lot more because it performs very similar and is extremely quiet.
 
BaronBamboo said:
I have a Rocketfish case and it's the simple basic ATX airflow. My problem is though that I might want to ass sound dampening material on my case and the Zipang is positioned to blow out heat toward the panel. I'm concerned about both space and the cooling; the Rocketfish case doesn't have the fans on the side panel to suck all that heat out.
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Do not underestimate basic ATX cooling. A lot of times creating a tornado inside the case barely lowers temps if you had everything setup correctly to begin with :p

Most video cards that generate enough heat to cause an issue are dual slot designs and shoot air out the back of the case too.
 
This rocketfish case with the S1283 has some poor cooling. If I take the side panel off my temps drop around 7C. I think I may need to drill a hole in the side panel and add a fan.
 
emp3r0r said:
This rocketfish case with the S1283 has some poor cooling. If I take the side panel off my temps drop around 7C. I think I may need to drill a hole in the side panel and add a fan.
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Did you turn the Rocketfish GPU fan to blow into the case instead of out?
 
Runedrune said:
So nickel = bad?
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It depends. There are rare occasions where you want (part) of a cooler to insulate heat and keep it trapped inside. These occasions are rare, and not practical for enthusiasts, but they exist.

On the other hand, it is possible for a small amount of the fluid (in gas form) to permiate through the heatpipe tube walls over (extended) time; which would cause a decreased performance. Nickel plating would help reduce this.
 
ocellaris said:
Did you turn the Rocketfish GPU fan to blow into the case instead of out?
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I'm not using that thing at the moment. I guess I'll add it on there and see what it does to the temps. I suppose it will help since I'm using a passive video card.
 
emp3r0r said:
I'm not using that thing at the moment. I guess I'll add it on there and see what it does to the temps. I suppose it will help since I'm using a passive video card.
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It should help you out quite a bit, considering you were thinking about cutting a hole in the case to bring in more cool air when you already have a intake fan you are not using. Flipping the fan to blow air into the case is easy.

Think of it this way, without that fan, you have 2 exhaust fans (PSU and the case fan) but only one fan bring cool air into the case, so both the case fan and power supply fan are not operating optimally. Adding another intake fan that blows about as much air as a PSU fan keeps things running properly and the air moving.
 
Das Capitolin said:
It depends. There are rare occasions where you want (part) of a cooler to insulate heat and keep it trapped inside. These occasions are rare, and not practical for enthusiasts, but they exist.

On the other hand, it is possible for a small amount of the fluid (in gas form) to permiate through the heatpipe tube walls over (extended) time; which would cause a decreased performance. Nickel plating would help reduce this.
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Well then I guess I'll have to wait before I decide if I should get the 1283 or the 1284.
 
I'm actually going to get the identical twin of the 1283 from OCZ based off of the new results, don't see how it is better but somehow it is and $5 cheaper.

I have also read that the paste makes a big difference and the Arctic Ceramique seems to get high praises from people who switched from AS 5...I have two small tubes of the stuff from when it hit the market in 2004, do you guys think it's better, worse or equal to AS 5?
 
Outamyhead said:
I'm actually going to get the identical twin of the 1283 from OCZ based off of the new results, don't see how it is better but somehow it is and $5 cheaper.

I have also read that the paste makes a big difference and the Arctic Ceramique seems to get high praises from people who switched from AS 5...I have two small tubes of the stuff from when it hit the market in 2004, do you guys think it's better, worse or equal to AS 5?
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Arctic Cooling's MX-2's one of the best and easiest to get. Very little curing time, excellent results.
 
Outamyhead said:
I'm actually going to get the identical twin of the 1283 from OCZ based off of the new results, don't see how it is better but somehow it is and $5 cheaper.
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Where did you see the OCZ? (Assume ya mean the Vendetta 2.)
 
Sorry if it wasn't clear... I meant to ask:

Where did you see the OCZ for $5 less than the Xigmatek 1283?
 
Ah, didn't know OCZ had a HDT model. I still don't trust OCZ, from back in the day.
 
i have the kingwin version. it was pain to get it installed because the fan came preinstalled. i didnt remove it for fear of tearing the rubber things that hold the fan to the heatsink.

its awesome, but the new version should do several degrees cooler.
 
How did you get it on? I couldn't get mine on w/ the fan installed, however, I'm using a bolt kit.

Also, those rubber mounts are much tougher than they look.
 
luckily i have skinny hands/fingers so i was able to push the push pins in with some power while maneuvering my fingers around the fan and northbridge heatsink. but like it was def annoying and i was going to rip off the rubber things cuz i was so annoyed/pissed
 
xevious said:
i have the kingwin version. it was pain to get it installed because the fan came preinstalled. i didnt remove it for fear of tearing the rubber things that hold the fan to the heatsink.

its awesome, but the new version should do several degrees cooler.
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I've had my fan off an on multiple times. That rubber can take a lot of abuse! I did soak my rubber mounts in water + dish soap before I used them though, maybe that helps.

I would be happy to see the 1284 drop temps by 1 or 2 degrees C. I think a lot of people are expecting larger increases in performance though. With coolers you run into a point where just making "more/bigger" of the same design has diminishing returns.
 
Must have been half asleep when I posted that message, I was meant to say Kingwin (I really want the OCZ Vendetta2 but newegg don't have any in stock), the Kingwin is $5 cheaper than the Xigmatek version.
 
I grabbed the Xigamatek HDT-RS1283 (The one on Hotdeals/Newegg posted) for $35 shipped AR

Then ordered the LGA 775 bolt-through kit from sidewinder-computers

Gonna drop my watercooling for this... mainly cause watercooling is a big hassle for very little gains over air-cooling now adays... I'll spend $40 on this heatsink, and $200 on watercooling and the temps might be 3-5c difference... if I'm lucky...
 
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