Got my Westinghouse LVM-37W3 37" 1080p display today!

So what would you all suggest? I think I will be able to get both at some point in the future but I have to make a decision as to which one I will purchase first. Since the 4800+ is discontinued, I figured I should get that one first since it will only become more difficult to find and also more expensive to buy. I am also concerned that when I am finally able to buy the Westy 37" it could be discontinued or difficult to find.
As others have suggested, you could have both if you get even just an Opteron 165 and overclock it to X2 4800+ speeds. But if you, like me, have no clue how to even start with overclocking, then I would recommend against that idea, as you could seriously damage your processor.

If I had to choose, I'd pick the CPU first and maybe settle for a 720p (I hear the Westinghouse LTV-32w6 is a great product). No sense in having a 1080p monitor you cannot exploit to the fullest.
 
I've seen pictures of WoW on the w3 before... very colorful ones, too... maybe even in this very thread?

EDIT: yep, three big pics on page 10
 
After reading through this thread, i'm SOLD!

Where can I get the best deal on this display? Also, does it do 1:1 pixel mapping at 1920x1200? I just want a nice and sharp picture. :D
 
After reading through this thread, i'm SOLD!

Where can I get the best deal on this display? Also, does it do 1:1 pixel mapping at 1920x1200? I just want a nice and sharp picture. :D

It will definately do 1:1 pixel mapping but the the monitor is 16:9 1920x1080.
 
Do you know which resolution would be 1:1? How does 16:9 look? I just want sharp text as I would have with any other LCD monitor.

1920X1080 would be the 1:1 resolution, and it will be razor sharp so long as you use one of the digital inputs.
 
1920X1080 would be the 1:1 resolution, and it will be razor sharp so long as you use one of the digital inputs.

Perfect, I can't wait to pick this one up! I'm going to feel silly though because it's going in the bedroom and I currently use a ViewSonic N2750W as my TV. This is going to be a better set but that one will still be in the room with the PS3/360/Wii hooked up to it :eek:

Is Newegg still the best place to order this? I noticed either the prices went up or people had really good coupon codes a few months ago =\
 
The people you speak of would be me. There are dozens/hundreds of comments here and at avsforums specifically regarding the black levels of this set that support my empirical evidence. Panel bleed might vary a few percent between different sets... but if it's more than that, then that is a major quality control issue that needs to be discussed. Backlight bleed on this panel is significant. Fact.
My data is as complete as it needs to be for discussion in this topic. Setting the bar as high as you stated means that nobody would have anything to say about this set, and we'd be sitting at one reply for all eternity because nobody has seen a statistically significant number other than the QC people at Westinghouse Digital. If you've got conflicting measurements, then post about them and disagree with me. But you are not disagreeing or posting numbers; You are calling into question my methods and judgement, so I will defend them.

I do agree that everyone should test the unit for themselves and decide, and have said exactly that more than once on this forum for this particular subject. But I want people who's only option is to buy this set sight unseen to be aware of the Westys flaws. And the backlight bleed is unquestionably a major one.


I have a differing opinion of the backlight performance of this monitor, in particular, that its performance is "about as poor as black levels get on an LCD of any type". I disagree. I'm not going to argue my opinion with you because I have no more data to back it up than you have for your own.

I have no direct measurements of this panel in regards to actual luminosity using anything other than my eyes, and have never claimed such measurments- neither have I seen any measurements posted by others. To claim fact when all I have is opinion would take away from people whos opinion differs from my own, and wrongly so.

To them who claim fact, let them also provide proof.
 
I've been looking everywhere for like the past hour on what the pixel pitch on the westinghouse 37w3, 42w2, and the 47w1 is, can anyone help me out. Please, and Thank You
 
I've been looking everywhere for like the past hour on what the pixel pitch on the westinghouse 37w3, 42w2, and the 47w1 is, can anyone help me out. Please, and Thank You

I can tell you that on the 37W3, it is less than or equal to 0.43mmX 0.43mm, but not how much less. I couldn't find any info in a search online or in my user's manual, either.
 
I believe I read the pixel pitch is .42 (I know I read it's over .4, it may have been like .45 though)
 
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ok, wtf... i guess im going to have to make a call tomorrow. :mad:
 
[37w3] 25.4mm (1 inch) / 59.5ppi = .42mm
[42w2] 25.4mm (1 inch) / 52.5ppi = .48mm
[47w1] 25.4mm (1 inch) / 46.8ppi = .54mm
 
A question for people that own the LVM-37W3.

I went to Best Buy, and saw the LVM-37W2 . . . it looked grainy, but so did all of the displays there; was it their set-up, their signal, and so on? Or are all of them, including the LVM-37W3 , grainy even when hooked up to a computer?

More specfically, does your display look grainy when playing games / desktop usage through Digital input?
I looked at camera shots of the display and it looked awesome, was not grainy at all.
But in real life it looked grainy.

I really want to get a Westinghouse . . . that thing was just impressive; and while my friend and I were at BestBuy, he bought a Westinghouse 19" (LCM-19v7) monitor, about $220. It is nice, for the price and size.
Good for what he is using it for, which is just another monitor for when he is doing homework; to be able to have Powerpoint open and Internet Explorer and so on.
 
A question for people that own the LVM-37W3.

I went to Best Buy, and saw the LVM-37W2 . . . it looked grainy, but so did all of the displays there; was it their set-up, their signal, and so on? Or are all of them, including the LVM-37W3 , grainy even when hooked up to a computer?

More specfically, does your display look grainy when playing games / desktop usage through Digital input?
I looked at camera shots of the display and it looked awesome, was not grainy at all.
But in real life it looked grainy.

don't trust best buy's displays. Also, the W2 is not a 1080p monitor, so it would look far worse close up than the W3
 
don't trust best buy's displays. Also, the W2 is not a 1080p monitor, so it would look far worse close up than the W3

Is the 37W3 really that much better than ALL of the Westinghouse big displays? I think BestBuy had every size, not sure if they had the newer ones, though.

And like I said, all of the displays looked grainy. And that is the only thing that is keeping me from getting one, but if people that actually have the 37W3 say otherwise and so on.
It seems, more likely than anything else, that BestBuy just has a crappy set-up, bad inputs and so on. . . .
Plus they probably do not have it as properly adjusted as I would have it.
And it was not the W3, it was the W2.
 
It's 100% because of Best Buy's setup. I can almost guarantee you that if you went back and looked closely, you'd see that they were using composite (or, at the VERY BEST, s-video) inputs for their video feed. This monitor is just as sharp as any computer LCD out there (my opinion, of course).
 
Is the 37W3 really that much better than ALL of the Westinghouse big displays? I think BestBuy had every size, not sure if they had the newer ones, though.

And like I said, all of the displays looked grainy. And that is the only thing that is keeping me from getting one, but if people that actually have the 37W3 say otherwise and so on.
It seems, more likely than anything else, that BestBuy just has a crappy set-up, bad inputs and so on. . . .
Plus they probably do not have it as properly adjusted as I would have it.
And it was not the W3, it was the W2.

+1 On never going by Bestbuy/Circuit City displays. They do not adjust the settings correctly nor keep up with it when a consumer changes it.

I do not know how well the W2 model does, but both the W1 and W3 models were awesome. My advice is to just purchase it and try it out, if you do not like it then just return it. And also make sure you'll be getting input from either DVI or HDMI; VGA sucks on a big monitor.
 
I will be getting it from JR if I get it, not BestBuy.
The closest store that carries the W3 is in Pensacola, which is at least a 2 hour drive from here; and BestBuy charges more than JR.

One thing that I noticed when I looked at the display, was that one specific part of the video it showed green edges along a line on some mountains. Again, I am assumsing this is BestBuy's fault with their set-up and it being the W2.
 
It's 100% because of Best Buy's setup. I can almost guarantee you that if you went back and looked closely, you'd see that they were using composite (or, at the VERY BEST, s-video) inputs for their video feed. This monitor is just as sharp as any computer LCD out there (my opinion, of course).

Thanks, that helps a lot. I looked at a lot of close-up pictures of the Westinghouse in action . . . not grainy at all, looked awesome.
Now just to get more confirmations before I make it a certain not-going-to-change-my-mind-again decision.
 
jr upped their price. if you decide to order before newegg drops the free shipping i would highly suggest going with them instead. both do not offer returns on the monitor and jr shipped is like 1250 now vs 1100 at newegg
 
My understanding of why Bestbuy/Futureshop's displays always look horrible is this:
1. They often use merely composite cables.
2. Sources at BB/FS are often (usually) not 1080p. Hell, they're often SD.
3. Both stores use a single (or at least, very few) original signals. They then run _long_ cables, and signal splitters to run all their tvs from the original source.
 
Got my Westinghouse LVM-42W2 42" 1080p display today!

Ordered it last thursday from mwave.com for about $1350 shipped, it arrived yesterday. The display was in perfect condition. All my worries and concerns have passed. Everyone was right, life will never be the same!
I am in awe constantly; I get giddy at times. Even the little things, like playing music with full screen media player visiualizations -- on a 42" screen in the livingroom it suddenly seems cool. I played games and watched movies/anime till 3am last night, I couldn't help myself.

I am very happy with the display, no different from the LCD's I've used at work. There is visible backlight bleed when viewing the display from an angle, but this disappears completely when sitting in front of the screen. Despite this I in no way feel that I "didn't get my money's worth", this thing is incredible. I recommend the 42w2 to those looking for a large display. Mine sits on the wall of my livingroom, I use a small hostpital table to sit back and hold my KB/Mouse/gamepad/joystick/ect. I am happy I spent a little more for the 42" in my situation with my PC in my livingroom. Even from my couch 10 feet away, the screen is large and I can easily read subtitled anime videos easier than when I was sitting close to my 19" crt. The 37" wouldn't have been this nice from the couch. If you need to sit closer than 4-5 feet however (see below), don't get the 42"!

No visible bad pixels, ghosting, or banding yet. Maybe banding comes from persons watching lots of 4:3 video and this causes burn in on the screen? Dunno.

Now for my personal opinion: In regards the "pixel pitch" bashers -- this shouldn't mean a thing if your sitting the appropriate distance from the screen. 1920x1080 is 1920x1080. Pixel pitch only matters unless your sitting closer than you should, which you should not be doing anyway cause it sucks being that close! This thing is not meant to replace the display on your desk. I notice a lot of people doing this with their 37" and honestly I don't know how their eyes can stand it. Keep in mind the bigger the screen the more light it puts out. This 42" sucker is a giant light bulb, it will light up my whole livingroom! If you sit close your eyes WILL strain and hurt. This is moreso with the 42" -- I sit 5 feet away from this thing with my keyboard and mouse and I consider that about perfect. If I sit any closer than 4 feet my eyes HURT. I don't lose anything by sitting farther back -- I can bettter see the entire screen without having to look all around. At this distance it's still friggin huge and shockingly crisp, and my eyes don't strain the least. From peoples comments here, the 37" likewise appears to be best at 3.4-4 feet away. End opinion.

I cant wait to wow my console buddies with my 8800gtx pushing this thing!
 
so i take it its not a good idea to use composite? I will be using just the coax. I'm 16 and dont have a cable box in my room...only http://ati.amd.com/products/tvwonder550/index.html

will this look like ass?

umm, from what i read isnt that for your pc? if so then you will be running vga or dvi from your computer and using this monitor as your computer monitor right? if so then thats not going in from composite.
 
oh i was under the impression that coax was composite. Yes, the coax cable will be going to my pc, then DVI to the monitor
 
from my understanding EVERY cable signal goes through coax. what matters is how you connect it to the tv. i have coax cable to a digital cable box and then from there to hdmi.

actually could someone clear that up for me? i thought coax was supposed to be crap, so why is it that you can have coax cable to a digital cable box and then you need a better cable coming away from the box? if coax does not go higher than 480i then why can they send a 720p source across it and why can you d/l at over a meg/sec through a coax cable line
 
It is like this.

think signal. There are a lot of different kinds of signals. to make it simple we are talking about analogue vs digital.

Analogue is more organic. It can get fuzzy. As opposed to digital. It is either on or off. (please do not take this to mean you can not get weak or intermittent signals with digital)

The cool thing about signals is that you can use the same medium (in this case a coax cable)

SO, if you take a coax cable it has so much bandwidth. Like a straw or a pipe. It can hold so much signal.

The cool thing about digital signals is that typically it can "hold" more data then the old analogue signals could. SO this means you can push higher quality signals through the cable.

SO, if you take your tv signal encode it to all digital and send it out over cable / satellite video feed in a digital signal and then have a decoder at the other end and output that signal in a digital format it will look better.

I am no engineer or anything but I did work for a cable company for a while and this was the simple break down they gave me.

I hope this helps.
 
Got my Westinghouse LVM-42W2 42" 1080p display today!

Ordered it last thursday from mwave.com for about $1350 shipped, it arrived yesterday. The display was in perfect condition. All my worries and concerns have passed. Everyone was right, life will never be the same!
I am in awe constantly; I get giddy at times. Even the little things, like playing music with full screen media player visiualizations -- on a 42" screen in the livingroom it suddenly seems cool. I played games and watched movies/anime till 3am last night, I couldn't help myself.

I am very happy with the display, no different from the LCD's I've used at work. There is visible backlight bleed when viewing the display from an angle, but this disappears completely when sitting in front of the screen. Despite this I in no way feel that I "didn't get my money's worth", this thing is incredible. I recommend the 42w2 to those looking for a large display. Mine sits on the wall of my livingroom, I use a small hostpital table to sit back and hold my KB/Mouse/gamepad/joystick/ect. I am happy I spent a little more for the 42" in my situation with my PC in my livingroom. Even from my couch 10 feet away, the screen is large and I can easily read subtitled anime videos easier than when I was sitting close to my 19" crt. The 37" wouldn't have been this nice from the couch. If you need to sit closer than 4-5 feet however (see below), don't get the 42"!

No visible bad pixels, ghosting, or banding yet. Maybe banding comes from persons watching lots of 4:3 video and this causes burn in on the screen? Dunno.

Now for my personal opinion: In regards the "pixel pitch" bashers -- this shouldn't mean a thing if your sitting the appropriate distance from the screen. 1920x1080 is 1920x1080. Pixel pitch only matters unless your sitting closer than you should, which you should not be doing anyway cause it sucks being that close! This thing is not meant to replace the display on your desk. I notice a lot of people doing this with their 37" and honestly I don't know how their eyes can stand it. Keep in mind the bigger the screen the more light it puts out. This 42" sucker is a giant light bulb, it will light up my whole livingroom! If you sit close your eyes WILL strain and hurt. This is moreso with the 42" -- I sit 5 feet away from this thing with my keyboard and mouse and I consider that about perfect. If I sit any closer than 4 feet my eyes HURT. I don't lose anything by sitting farther back -- I can bettter see the entire screen without having to look all around. At this distance it's still friggin huge and shockingly crisp, and my eyes don't strain the least. From peoples comments here, the 37" likewise appears to be best at 3.4-4 feet away. End opinion.

I cant wait to wow my console buddies with my 8800gtx pushing this thing!
Mine is coming Friday. I can't wait. Vista is going to be very sweet on this thing.
 
thanks! im guessing the signal expands to take up more bandwidth after it gets decoded at the cable box and that is why the connector between cable box and tv is more important?


It is like this.

think signal. There are a lot of different kinds of signals. to make it simple we are talking about analogue vs digital.

Analogue is more organic. It can get fuzzy. As opposed to digital. It is either on or off. (please do not take this to mean you can not get weak or intermittent signals with digital)

The cool thing about signals is that you can use the same medium (in this case a coax cable)

SO, if you take a coax cable it has so much bandwidth. Like a straw or a pipe. It can hold so much signal.

The cool thing about digital signals is that typically it can "hold" more data then the old analogue signals could. SO this means you can push higher quality signals through the cable.

SO, if you take your tv signal encode it to all digital and send it out over cable / satellite video feed in a digital signal and then have a decoder at the other end and output that signal in a digital format it will look better.

I am no engineer or anything but I did work for a cable company for a while and this was the simple break down they gave me.

I hope this helps.
 
If anyone is interested my 37" Westy is for sale. About a month and a half old. Original receipt included as well as the box, manuals, remote.

In great condition. Latest firmware. Everything looks great on it. I also have a wallmount.

$925 plus actual shipping. 61701 for local pickup. There will be a thread in the for sale soon.
 
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