Official Dell 2407WFP Thread - Reviews, Revisions, Screenies

Well dealing with Dell return/exchange system was a frustrating experience.

Like I mentioned earlier I called last friday to request an exchange for a defective 2407 monitor. After all was said and done I just wasn't confortable on my expereince with the outsourced customer expereince due to the language barrier. I just didn't really know what was going on becasue I missed so much in the poor translation. So I decided to call back on Monday. I did basically to confirm that everything went trough on friday ok. Again, the outsourced cutomer service was proving to be a challenge. The broken english and deep accent is just horrible to understand. Like wise for them trying to understand me, repeating myself was very frequent. Anyways, I think I got the way the exchange goes but was still really uncertain.

Tuesday I get a 1-800 call from British Columbia. I really had no idea who it was but I answer. It was Dell and I could understand the rep! She had to confirm the serial number on my monitor, so I gave it to her. Then I proceeded to get my questions answered one by one. Basically she was going to process this and a new 2407 would be shipped out in 4-5 days, expect it in 8 days or so. UPS return lables would be in the new box to put on the defect units box. Ok cool. So the night went on and I went to check my emails. Well I had to different claim emails. Now I assuming that maybe they are going to send out 2 more monitors. Nothing I can do though because it's after customer service hours already.

Weds rolls around and have the day off. Doing some house chores and haven't gotten around to calling Dell yet to confirm just one monitor to be sent out. Knock, knock, answer the door around noon, Fed Ex with my monitor. Dell overnighted me my replacement. Ok....Cool, but they could have let me know. The night passes, check the new monitor out, all is good.

I still called thursday to make sure there isn't another 2407 coming. I call sales this time though since they all speak great english. Of coarse they transfer me straight to Mumbai again. The guy who calls himself Fred has no record on a replacement being shipped, just the original one that should have arrived today. Huh? Did I get lucky and get two? So after getting no where with Fred I decided to google, 'Dell exchange returns expereinces'. Sure enough it's pretty common. Dell stringing along it's consumers then charging them a month later for that forgotten item. Not that this was going on with me, but I didn't want to take any chances.

I call back again and just mentioned I didn't get the return shipping lables in my exchange(I didn't of coarse which is common I guess) but didn't give any more info then I need to. He starts to ramble off what exactly was going on with the exchange and that he'd have my shipping tracking number and a UPS carrier coming out to pick up the defective unit. Weird that he knew what was going on and 5 minutes earlier the other guy didn't. I did however go about it differently by saying I need return shipping lables for my exchange return. I get the numbers anyways and was then told I get a email on how it would be picked up. The email came alright, at like 11pm saying the ups carrier would be here the next business day but no time was given. wtf..

I had the day off anyways, so I waited today. I hear nothing except the mailman at around 2pm. I grab my mail and stuck to my door was a UPS paper saying he was here and I missed him. Missed him? Never heard him knock, heard the mailman though, strange. lol. So now I guess he comes on Monday. Whats messed up is I took it up to a UPS store later on with the shipping number that Dell gave me and they said that it had to be attempted to be picked up 3 times before she can take. Why the hell does it matter. Anyways, I just said, "ok, see you Wendsday then". Can't miss day after day for a Dell pickup.

All in all, the monitor itself is badass. I however would never recommend Dell just for the fact of shaddy outsourced cutomer service. Have designated call centers for certain regions who speak the damn language properly. Also the return/exchange system is a hasstle and really needs to be cleaned up. Then again maybe that's the design of it. To create confusion and/or discouragement. Preying on people either to give up on it or maybe making people believe that got that lucky lost product.
 
I just got my 2407WPF. My video card is ATI 9800 Pro with DVI connection, 1900x1200.
Every time I reboot my PC, the display shows some horizontal blue line noise across the screen. However, I can get it off if I power off and then power on the monitor or change the input selection from the menu.
My display card works well with other EIZO monitor. I've updateed to the latest video drivers, etc.
Do anyone have the same problem ?

hmm ive just got mine a few days ago and its great, but ive got blue horizontal line noise twice, but not after reboots.
Each time i reconnected the DVI cable and that sorted it out, im only assuming that for my case ive been adjusting and moving the monitor around alot and this has caused the cable to loosen and thus the noise appears...:confused:
Hopefully this is just a one off, and the lines wont come back... after reading these return horror stories i shudder at the thought of having to do it.

oh yea im running it with an old ATI 9600 ;)
 
Has any one tried Wii/Component cable on 2407WFP?? I did a research on this thread and only found one post on it. I hooked up the component cables from Wii to the monitor; and had the monitor switched to Component display mode but nothing showed up and the LCD showed the message saying that there is no signal.

I thought might be a problem with the cables; so I tried the cables on a HDTV of friend's and it worked. So it has to be 2407's problem.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you,
 
make sure that you dont have both the vga and dvi plugged in at the same time because the component wont work if they are both in.

Has any one tried Wii/Component cable on 2407WFP?? I did a research on this thread and only found one post on it. I hooked up the component cables from Wii to the monitor; and had the monitor switched to Component display mode but nothing showed up and the LCD showed the message saying that there is no signal.

I thought might be a problem with the cables; so I tried the cables on a HDTV of friend's and it worked. So it has to be 2407's problem.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you,
 
I have this on order from Dell & it should arrive by Friday via DHL. I'm really hoping it is a AO4 revision. I decided to make the move to a LCD after having been the owner of a Sony Trinitron 420GS for several years. I purchased a newer graphics card to use with it. Does anyone have this monitor running on a BFG 7600 GS (512 MB)? If so, I'd be interested in your experiences. This new card is an interim solution until I build a new system later this year with a BFG 8800 card.
 
make sure that you dont have both the vga and dvi plugged in at the same time because the component wont work if they are both in.

I only have the DVI plugged in and I even tried component with unplugged DVI... Gr... I will give it another try... Could it be a broken component? I guess I will have to something else with component to try on it eh... (which i don't have any):(
 
I have this on order from Dell & it should arrive by Friday via DHL. I'm really hoping it is a AO4 revision. I decided to make the move to a LCD after having been the owner of a Sony Trinitron 420GS for several years. I purchased a newer graphics card to use with it. Does anyone have this monitor running on a BFG 7600 GS (512 MB)? If so, I'd be interested in your experiences. This new card is an interim solution until I build a new system later this year with a BFG 8800 card.

I have that same card and I am driving 2 x 2407 rev A03s with it. in gentoo and xp also. I run most games in native resolution just fine. I can't turn everything all the way up but I am satisfied. thankfully for games like bf2142 (no widescreen support) nvidia's drivers do thier own 1:1 (so i can run 1600x1200 with no stretch). Thats my only gripe about the 2407 is the usless 1:1. I have 2 original xboxs and a 360 and have tried every connection to get 1:1 to work and it is always grayed out. I am not looking forward to exchanging both of these for A04s...

rest of the machine is pretty average. intel 2.66 northwood, 1 gig ram
 
Hello, I have the option to keep my 1 1/2 year old 2405 vs. 02 or keep my new 2407 vs. 03 display and need help deciding which is best for me. I’m going to keep one, the other goes to my son. I thought for sure I was going to get the “new monitor” but I’m having second doubts.:(

I don’t have any short term need to hook up an Xbox 360 or HD DVD player, maybe later.

I’m in a bit of a quandary over the issues of my ver 03 2407.:confused:

I use the 2407 in the desktop mode with DVI at 1920X1200 and record OTA HDTV programming through Windows Media Center (I use my PC for work too:)

I run DVI input to my monitor from my ATI X850XT PE.

The big issue I’m trying to understand is the aspect ratio displayed on the 2407.

With DVI in 1920X1200 rez, under display settings it’s default is “fill” (I can’t change to 1:1).

When I watch OTA HDTV programming there are no bars on the sides but bars on top and bottom.

Oddly enough on 4:3 programming is not stretched, and has boarders everywhere (what about “Fill”?)

If I change my res to 1920X1080, I get no bars on HDTV OTA programming and even bigger bars on 4:3 compared to 1920X1200.

With my 2405 I could display HD OTA programs without bars top and bottom.

So my questions are…

Using the 2407 with HDTV with black bars on the top and bottom, is the programming “swished”?

With DVI input of HDTV and black bars does the 2407 display the native/correct aspect ratio?

Does the 2405 display the correct 1080i signal without bars? Is it stretched since it fills the whole screen?

The aspect ratio of the 2407 is 16:10, is that why the black bars on top and bottom?

Would it help if I upgrade my video card to an Nvidia 7900 GS or higher? Could I override the monitor so I could specify that only during TV programming the res is 1920X1080?

If you had to choose, based on my needs (HDTV recording, gaming, general PC use) would you opt for a 2405 or 2407?

Thanks everyone for your input on this one :cool:
 
I just got my 2407WPF. My video card is ATI 9800 Pro with DVI connection, 1900x1200.
Every time I reboot my PC, the display shows some horizontal blue line noise across the screen. However, I can get it off if I power off and then power on the monitor or change the input selection from the menu.
My display card works well with other EIZO monitor. I've updateed to the latest video drivers, etc.
Do anyone have the same problem ?

Wow, someone with a similar problem to what I've been experiencing. It's driving me nuts! I have a 9800 Pro as well and am on my second 2407 for an unrelated reason. I've been getting all types of blue/purple lines on dark, yellow lines on white. Also, I get random groups of pixels that flicker purple in splotches or in vertical groups up and down the screen. The only way to get rid of it is to cycle the power or switch inputs. It happens at random times and can go minutes, hours or days between occurrences.

I am so close to sending the monitor back for a refurb cause I'm out of the 30 days, although I dont want to. I had the problem with the late 6 radeon drivers and the new 7 drivers. What's weird is I never noticed it on the other monitor with the same drivers. Maybe I was just lucky.

Anyone have any thoughts? Should I assume this is a driver issue and not the monitor?
 
The 2407wfp is $100 off on dell.ca right now - CDN $799, so I'm VERY interested.

Nobody's posted recently about quality with composite input - just wondering if anyone's had experience on the 2407 using composite for a PS2 or Xbox (original, not 360)? I'm currently tv-less, so I'd like to be able to check my email and rock out with Guitar Hero on the same screen :)
 
Does this card require an SLI or XFIRE setup? i am about to pull the trigger on this monitor and an 8800 GTS....would that be sufficient to run BF2, 2142, CSS, HL2, LOTR BFME?

Should I get a mobo with SLI and have the option to add a second GTS or should I just be prepared to later upgrade my GPU?
 
Anyone ever hooked up a upscale DVD player to the component input ? If so how does that look ?
 
Does this card require an SLI or XFIRE setup? i am about to pull the trigger on this monitor and an 8800 GTS....would that be sufficient to run BF2, 2142, CSS, HL2, LOTR BFME?

Should I get a mobo with SLI and have the option to add a second GTS or should I just be prepared to later upgrade my GPU?


No it does not require SLI/Crossfire.Yes a GTS would run those games fine at the native res.Yes a SLI mobo would be a good idea,as it allows extra options in the future,as that GTS wont always be as fast as it is now.
 
Using the 2407 with HDTV with black bars on the top and bottom, is the programming “swished”?
Would it help if I upgrade my video card to an Nvidia 7900 GS or higher? Could I override the monitor so I could specify that only during TV programming the res is 1920X1080?
Thanks everyone for your input on this one :cool:

I have the nvidia 7900GS and I am doing exactly the same thing you are doing.

If i select 1080P in the nvidia card settings, I get no black bars or anything, It looks great.
When you do this it changes the resolution to 1920x1080.
If I run the card in 1920x1200 the native resolution of the display I get really narrow black bars at the top and bottom.
So when I watch movies or OVA HDTV I select 1080p (1920x1080) and when I surf the net I switch it back. Works great.
 
Has anyone tried running 1920*1200 with 75Hz refresh rate? Does it work? This interests me, as I am in a PAL region, and 60Hz is less desirable than in an NTSC region, for watching TV & DVDs.

Are there any 24", 1920*1200 LCDs that do support 75Hz?
 
This thread has 36 pages and counting so please do not ask me to read through this for my answer, but I'm curious to know what armature will work with this monitor? I'm particularly interested in knowing whether or not the Ergontron base model will be strong enough for this. Dell usually runs it for a shade under $100; not to be confused with the LX model which is almost double that.

Thanks
 
Has anyone tried running 1920*1200 with 75Hz refresh rate? Does it work? This interests me, as I am in a PAL region, and 60Hz is less desirable than in an NTSC region, for watching TV & DVDs.

Are there any 24", 1920*1200 LCDs that do support 75Hz?

That's a great question. Why they use 60Hz is beyond me. You'd think they'd at least be up to 85Hz by now.
 
I took the plunge today and ordered a 2407. It should arrive by the end of the week. I found the price to be pretty great and I'm looking forward to the size. I debated about getting the 30" or waiting for a high-gamut 24, but this was a great deal and I can always upgrade in the future. I'll let people know if I get an A03 or A04 version when it arrives.
 
So does this monitor use an S-IPS panel or an S-PVA or an S-MVA?

How does it compare to the BenQ FP241? Most people seem to think the BenQ is better though neither is S-IPS as far as I know.

Dell comes out to $200 cheaper too, but is BenQ worth that much more?

Also I believe the DVI specification has a limit of 1900x1200 @ 60Hz with reduced blanking intervals, so 75 Hz is likely not going to happen
 
So does this monitor use an S-IPS panel or an S-PVA or an S-MVA?

How does it compare to the BenQ FP241? Most people seem to think the BenQ is better though neither is S-IPS as far as I know.

Dell comes out to $200 cheaper too, but is BenQ worth that much more?

Also I believe the DVI specification has a limit of 1900x1200 @ 60Hz with reduced blanking intervals, so 75 Hz is likely not going to happen

The Dell is a S-PVA, the same as the Samsung 244T. I believe from some reviews that the BenQ is superior to this display.
 
Also I believe the DVI specification has a limit of 1900x1200 @ 60Hz with reduced blanking intervals, so 75 Hz is likely not going to happen

It's possible with dual-link DVI, which the 3007wfp has, so I don't see why smaller sizes cannot have it.
 
This thread has 36 pages and counting so please do not ask me to read through this for my answer, but I'm curious to know what armature will work with this monitor? I'm particularly interested in knowing whether or not the Ergontron base model will be strong enough for this. Dell usually runs it for a shade under $100; not to be confused with the LX model which is almost double that.

Thanks
The Ergotron worked with my 2405, but I ended up using a MOView arm.I don't see why either arm wouldn't work with the 2407.
 
Just checked the revision of my monitor delivered mid-Jan, A03, darn. Cant find anything I dont like about it though, great monitor and looks sweet after running the Nvidia display calibrator thingy. I have mine on an Ergotron arm with extra extension, nothing like modern technology, eh? :cool:
 
I just pulled the trigger on a 2407.

Weeeeeeeeeee! :D

Now begs the question, will I get AO3 or AO4?
 
OMFG. After going from a ViewSonic VX2025wm to a 2407. Im literally in shock. What a helluva difference. I can't even imagine what a 30inch would be like!!!!

Made in Mexico - Shipped from Austin, TX and I have no idea what panel is inside.

Here's a pic.

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*edit*

Just ran dead pixel buddy and there is one stuck pixel on the lower left of the screen, right over the start button. Not noticeable at all and I really don't care about it.
 
Just curious,

My beloved CRT died on me last night. I'm looking at the 2407, but all this talk of A03 and A04 has me reeling. What is the vast improvement offered by A04s?
 
If money is a problem and you take the BenQ out of the 24"LCD picture, Are the Dell and Gateway 24incers the same or is there somthing better with one or the other (inputs, better panel or somthing)? Do they even use the same panel's ?
 
I have a wierd one guys.

First off I have an Inspiron 6000d with an ATIx300 128 meg.

I had the 2405 fpw and it worked wonderfully.

Now, I installed Vista, and I have to say its running amazingly well. I thought I would have to push from 1gig of sys ram to 2 gig, but the performance is really excellent. However. Upon admiring the new OS and looking around, I noticed what looks like a jiggle.
heh, Ok I will try to explain this.

From the top of the monitor, a horizontal line scrolls down slowly. You can't see it, all you see is the line jiggle. Then it the jiggle goes down 2 inches and works its way down, then starts over at the top. Jiggle, jitter, whatever you want to call it. This only happens at 1920.

I called Dell and told them that I think there is something going on with either the ATI driver for the Vista or the monitor may need a driver. He did all kinds of testing (Really things that don't matter, such as "Is the line on the screen if you go into the bios" I reply no, this is not 1920. In the end they feel the monitor is defective and they are going to send me a new monitor. I disagree and tell him I really do not think that is necessary as I really think it is a Vista OS or Driver issue. But he said no, senior support thinks its the monitor.

2 days later, today, I received a box at the door. I open it up and it is a 2407 a03. First thing I do is load up Vista, and sure enough the line is still there. Now it does not seem to be as prominent, but it is still there.

Do you guys have any idea what could be causing this? I did notice Vista locks the refresh at 59 or 60.

Laptop - Inspiron 6000d
1 gig of ram
ATI x300 128 meg

External Display is the 2407 and or 2405.

Thanks guys and gals.
 
I've had my 2407 A03 for a week now. Reaction - I LOVE IT! I just ran dead pixel buddy and can't locate a single dead pixel. I was on order to buy the NEC 26, but when it took so long on back order, I canceled and ordered the Dell instead thinking that if I hate it I would simply return it. My principal use is editing photos with CS2, and even though the Dell isn't a S-IPS monitor, I'm not having a bit of problems with viewing angles, etc. Can't say enough good things about this monitor. And it goes without saying I'm thrilled to have saved $1,000 by getting it instead of the NEC!
 
Last night I got fed up and said I am going to figure it out.

I uninstalled all the video drivers, then set the ATIx300 XP driver. Once done I had no aero, but there was no jiggle or wiggle. I then went to ATI's site and downloaded the ATI Radeon Catalyst Beta VISTA RTM drivers.

IT WORKS!!!!! No screen problems at all, so this is 100% a driver issue on Dell/ATI's part and needs to be corrected.

Thanks
 
Can someone post a picture of a 17 inch lcd next to the 24 inch. I currently have a 17 inch lcd and have ordered the 24 inch from Dell. Going from 17 inch to 24 won't be a big difference but I would like to see a comparison please.

^_-
 
hi all. First post here in absolutely ages. I'm very much on the verge of buying one of these monitors from Ebay, but i'm wondering if i'd be doing the right thing upgrading from a 20.1" NEC 20wgx2 widescreen. Any thoughts?
 
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