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DrezKill said:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Explicit-GPU-Sync-XWayland-Go
"...notably takes care of a number of NVIDIA driver problems on Wayland in the process."

"NVIDIA is also expected to have out a new Linux binary driver release soon for ironing out their Wayland support with explicit sync capabilities."

I wonder if soon I will FINALLY be able to use Wayland on nVidia. I ain't holding my breath though.


I saw this recently: https://www.phoronix.com/review/kde-plasma-6-amd-gaming
Plasma 6 X11 and Wayland vs GNOME X11 and Wayland.
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I've been using Wayland on my 4070 for a while. What issues are you having?
 
auntjemima said:
I've been using Wayland on my 4070 for a while. What issues are you having?
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Was never able to get Wayland working on GTX 1080 Ti or RTX 3090. I should mention I am on Plasma 5. The best I can get is a low-res display, but there's A LOT of graphical issues. Been a while since I last tried it, so I can't give you specifics at this time. I can use Wayland fine on my Intel laptop, and it's fantastic.
 
I tried booting into my spare drive with an installation of Mint on it last week, I was able to update everything, download steam and play helldivers 2 with a reasonable frame rate. I did have some minor texture issues with the game but nothing too bad. The only troubleshooting I had to do was to get the audio out on my sound card to work, something with alsa was set wrong. If they keep pushing the AI crap into Windows I might just switch over for my day to day stuff and keep a backup Windows 10 drive for some games.
 
DrezKill said:
Was never able to get Wayland working on GTX 1080 Ti or RTX 3090. I should mention I am on Plasma 5. The best I can get is a low-res display, but there's A LOT of graphical issues. Been a while since I last tried it, so I can't give you specifics at this time. I can use Wayland fine on my Intel laptop, and it's fantastic.
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I had issues on my 1080 as well.

Wayland is conversely perfect on my AMD 7840u laptop on Plasma 6.
 
LigTasm said:
If they keep pushing the AI crap into Windows I might just switch over for my day to day stuff and keep a backup Windows 10 drive for some games.
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That's how I been rollin' for a few years now. In the 2000s and 2010s it used to be that Windows was my main OS and Linux was my "fucking around/testing" OS. But a few years ago I switched. Linux is my "everything except gaming" OS (and sometimes gaming too), and then I keep Windows around for gaming, and a few other programs that I can't run in Linux (and don't wanna run through Wine).
 
DrezKill said:
Was never able to get Wayland working on GTX 1080 Ti or RTX 3090. I should mention I am on Plasma 5. The best I can get is a low-res display, but there's A LOT of graphical issues. Been a while since I last tried it, so I can't give you specifics at this time. I can use Wayland fine on my Intel laptop, and it's fantastic.
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That's weird, sorry I can't help, but I ran it on Mint and KDE Neon plasma 6 and they both ran fine. I had issues otherwise, but not graphically.
 
Wayland runs fine on Plasma 6 with the exception of flickering at times due to the fact Wayland devs have been dragging their heels merging explicit sync at the request of Nvidia quite some time ago.
 
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DrezKill said:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Explicit-GPU-Sync-XWayland-Go
"...notably takes care of a number of NVIDIA driver problems on Wayland in the process."

"NVIDIA is also expected to have out a new Linux binary driver release soon for ironing out their Wayland support with explicit sync capabilities."

I wonder if soon I will FINALLY be able to use Wayland on nVidia. I ain't holding my breath though.
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https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-Explicit-Sync-Week
"KWin explicit sync support was merged to much excitement. Wayland explicit sync support is coming together in the ecosystem for improving the NVIDIA proprietary driver support and making Wayland more robust in general."

https://pointieststick.com/2024/04/12/this-week-in-kde-explicit-sync/
"In a nutshell it allows apps to tell the compositor when to display frames on the screen, reducing latency and graphical glitches. The effect should be particularly noticeable with NVIDIA GPUs, which only support this rendering style, and not having support for it on Wayland was the most common source of random graphical glitches and slowdowns."

https://zamundaaa.github.io/wayland/2024/04/05/explicit-sync.html
"...The proprietary NVidia driver doesn’t support implicit sync at all, and neither commonly used compositors nor the NVidia driver support the first explicit sync protocol, which means on Wayland you get significant flickering and frame pacing issues. The driver also ships with some workarounds, but they don’t exactly fix the problem either..."

"With the explicit sync protocol being implemented in compositors and very soon in Xwayland and the proprietary NVidia driver, all those problems will finally be a thing of the past, and the biggest remaining blocker for NVidia users to switch to Wayland will be gone."
 
DrezKill said:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-Explicit-Sync-Week
"KWin explicit sync support was merged to much excitement. Wayland explicit sync support is coming together in the ecosystem for improving the NVIDIA proprietary driver support and making Wayland more robust in general."

https://pointieststick.com/2024/04/12/this-week-in-kde-explicit-sync/
"In a nutshell it allows apps to tell the compositor when to display frames on the screen, reducing latency and graphical glitches. The effect should be particularly noticeable with NVIDIA GPUs, which only support this rendering style, and not having support for it on Wayland was the most common source of random graphical glitches and slowdowns."

https://zamundaaa.github.io/wayland/2024/04/05/explicit-sync.html
"...The proprietary NVidia driver doesn’t support implicit sync at all, and neither commonly used compositors nor the NVidia driver support the first explicit sync protocol, which means on Wayland you get significant flickering and frame pacing issues. The driver also ships with some workarounds, but they don’t exactly fix the problem either..."

"With the explicit sync protocol being implemented in compositors and very soon in Xwayland and the proprietary NVidia driver, all those problems will finally be a thing of the past, and the biggest remaining blocker for NVidia users to switch to Wayland will be gone."
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That sounds like a lot of the complaints I heard recently, wonder if that's what they were complaining about. I've had other issues which made me switch to Plasma X11 for now, but if not for them I'd prefer wayland as it is generally a better experience, imo.
 
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