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AMD - Ryzen 9 7950X
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Faster at what? Productivity tasks? For some yes, for others not as much.
For gaming? Generally not as fast, but the 7800X3D with 6000 C30 RAM is faster than the 14900K (even with 7600 C36 RAM) and the 7950X for gaming.
If you already have a 14900K, why sidegrade? Unless your power bill is an issue.
If your primary goal is gaming, and you want the best for gaming - 7800X3D with 6000 C30 RAM.
Although, do your research on motherboards. I went Asrock for my 7800X3D, specifically the X670E Steel Legend, because it had such good user reviews compared to all other brands. And be sure to update to the latest BIOS to ensure better startup times (RAM training got better after initial boot/BIOS settings change).
I wouldn't touch Asus. They tried to screw over their customers by not only having too high of an SOC voltage that fried X3D chips, but they tried to weasel out of it by putting warranty void language in the beta BIOS "fix" (aka, following what AMD said was the max SOC voltage).
It's going to take a few years for me to consider buying Asus again. That, and their motherboard user reviews are pretty damn bad for AM5.
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If you have a 14900K then this is a complete waste of time. Tweak your 14900K and it might beat out even a 7800X3D in games.
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I was considering a similar move but to the other side - going from a 7800X3D to a 14900K. After running some benches with another forum member he was 4-9% faster in 4 games we tested. However, he was running 6 GHz all core plus memory tweaked to 8000+. Meanwhile I was running 7800X3D with -15 PBO and tweaked memory. No FSB overclocking.
Games we tested at 4K were Cyberpunk, AC Mirage, SOTTR and RDR2
Game 7800X3D 14900K - 4K max settings 4090 @ 2800 MHz
RDR2 120 124
AC Mirage 125 131
Cyberpunk 2077 72 74
SOTTR 176 192
Shadow was only game that really favored his setup with high memory bandwidth. Same game on another person’s stock 14900K was scoring 169 FPS. 1% lows and everything else was a wash as well.
For me to do this “upgrade” was another 700$ out of pocket expense since I would need a new 1700 LGA AIO and also get a shit price for selling my AMD. So I decided against it.
P.S. He was running a 650$ Apex board whereas I am running a 270$ Tomahawk.
Hope this helps.
Games we tested at 4K were Cyberpunk, AC Mirage, SOTTR and RDR2
Game 7800X3D 14900K - 4K max settings 4090 @ 2800 MHz
RDR2 120 124
AC Mirage 125 131
Cyberpunk 2077 72 74
SOTTR 176 192
Shadow was only game that really favored his setup with high memory bandwidth. Same game on another person’s stock 14900K was scoring 169 FPS. 1% lows and everything else was a wash as well.
For me to do this “upgrade” was another 700$ out of pocket expense since I would need a new 1700 LGA AIO and also get a shit price for selling my AMD. So I decided against it.
P.S. He was running a 650$ Apex board whereas I am running a 270$ Tomahawk.
Hope this helps.
Thank you.
I went Intel because I already have everything else did not need to change anything else except the processor of course.
The biggest advantage of having to would be having almost another spare PC. If I went AMD. Sense I would have to get a new motherboard and ram.
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If you are building a new PC on a budget and for gaming then 7800X3D is the way to go. You can build it for as low as 600$ with a B650 board and some MC deal.
For Intel the minimum you need to shell out is about a 1000$ unless you build with 14700K. So up to you.
7950X is great for productivity but the windows scheduler issues are very real and so is microstutter. 7950X3D is a joke also due to said scheduling issues.
A couple of people I know shifted from 7950X3D to a 14900K and are happy.
For Intel the minimum you need to shell out is about a 1000$ unless you build with 14700K. So up to you.
7950X is great for productivity but the windows scheduler issues are very real and so is microstutter. 7950X3D is a joke also due to said scheduling issues.
A couple of people I know shifted from 7950X3D to a 14900K and are happy.
What makes the 7800X3D better than the 7950X3D?
I read a little that application performance is better with 7950X3D and closer to intel.
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For gaming it is a toss up if your windows scheduler is working correctly. On 7950X3D one CCD is used for gaming only and if your game is not dedicated to that CCD you may face microstutter. This is not an issue with 7800X3D since it has only one CCD which is dedicated to gaming.
For productivity, 7950X is better buy since to my knowledge it has slightly higher clock speed and also is overclockable (a little bit if it matters) than a 7950X3D. You can make a 7950X3D work as advertised but it takes what I call "needless effort" to get things to run correctly.
For productivity, 7950X is better buy since to my knowledge it has slightly higher clock speed and also is overclockable (a little bit if it matters) than a 7950X3D. You can make a 7950X3D work as advertised but it takes what I call "needless effort" to get things to run correctly.
I am having instability problems with Intel and the asus motherboard so I will be building a 7950 X in about three weeks, but I worry that it will be slower than the 13 900 K with handbrake encoding but the second computer will have the 13 900 K doing encoding work as well so not all is lost
I have a 7900X with 32gb of hynix a die cl32 ram. 990 pro nvme and I have 0 issues running anything at all. My rig is just dumb dumb fast. You guys really are grasping at straws unless you want to benchmark all day. I just play games and keep a lean cool machine. I have never had one issue.
The choice is pretty clear to me - if you do mostly or only gaming, 7800x3d. If you do productivity and some gaming, then 7950X or 14900k depending on your specific application(s). If you do a lot of both productivity and gaming, then the 7950x3d makes sense. If you've already got a 14900k, I wouldn't bother going amd until zen5.
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I run a 7950x w/NH-D15 with offset bracket on an ASRock B650E Steel Legend, 2x32GB GSkill Ripjaws S5 XMP 6400 32-38-38-38-102 DDR voltages 1.4v, SOC 1.3v, UCLK=MCLK/2 @ 6200 30-36-36-36-78, DDR voltages 1.35v, SOC 1.21v, UCLK=MCLK, GDM/MCR/PDM=off, CO-20mv all cores, PBO on +25 boost, FCLK=2100 (someday I'll get around to messing with subtimings ..but for now I just have the AGESA auto set to "Competitive")
I've been really happy with my setup .. but I've been AMD only since trading off my 7700k setup for a Ryzen 7 1700 way back when ... so no personal experience of Intel in a long time
I've been really happy with my setup .. but I've been AMD only since trading off my 7700k setup for a Ryzen 7 1700 way back when ... so no personal experience of Intel in a long time
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Just. A quick follow on to this. The difference between a tweaked 6 GHz and a 7800X3D with 1 minute ram timings and curve optimizer wasn’t exactly as high as I stated above. Actually it was DLDSR causing the issues. Once I ran the benches to my 4K CX the results were better. 3/4 games benefitted.
My results on true 4K were:
Game 7800X3D 14900K - 4K max settings 4090 @ 2800 MHz
RDR2 124.5 124
AC Mirage 125 131
Cyberpunk 2077 73 74
SOTTR 183 192
As you can see with exception of AC mirage DLDSR caused some overhead to run 4K.