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Old 11-04-2005, 12:00 PM
Cannibal Corpse Gawd, 7.2 Years
 
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Will XBOX 360 look good on 2405FPW?

I can't wait to test it out. My gaming PC rig is not yet complete (waiting for PSU, MoBo, DDR1 and 7800GTX )
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:17 PM
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I would also like to know the answet to this as well
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:24 PM
RailGunRiz [H]ard|Gawd, 5.1 Years
 
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From what I read before, the 2405 doesn't render HD Images that well (tends to be blockish but then again, which LCD isn't)

If you're interested in seeing Xbox360 in it's fullest like 1080P images, get a TV that's capable of 1080P or 760.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:16 PM
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It should do OK at 1080P/I with minimal stretching.

720P, by my guess, will be a different story.

The best results you are likely able to get using this monitor would be achieved via a component to VGA transcoder and not with the XBOX connected directly into the component input.

That said, a good transcoder will cost you up to $350.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:55 PM
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Why do I need a transcoder again?
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:34 PM
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The 2405FPW lacks the ability to properly scale and properly display the aspect ratio of material sent via a component cable.

A good transcoder will be able to take the HD input signal and send out a VGA signal with the correct resolution and aspect ratio.

I.E. if you were to use a transcoder for 1080P, the image would not be stretched on the 2405FPW if the 2405FPW has its settings tuned to 1:1 scaling.

You should also be able to use aspect scaling for 720P.

The transcoder turns a signal meant for a TV into a signal that can be understood properly by the 2405FPW.

Now, I forget which system has VGA out as a feature. But, in the case that a system already supports VGA output, a transcoder would not be required for that system, providing that the VGA output is handled correctly.
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:44 PM
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X360 will have a dedicated VGA cable for this use/.
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:46 PM
mathesar [H]ard|Gawd, 4.4 Years
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NEODARK
X360 will have a dedicated VGA cable for this use/.
Yes it will (as shown here) , Should be very nice on my 24" Widescreen CRT
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:00 PM
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And in VGA mode on the 2405 you do 1:1 scaling so you don't get any of that crappy stretching. 1920x1080 is 1080i isn't it? You'll have a little black bar on the top and bottom, but it shouldn't look too shabby

EDIT: I just tried a VGA signal at 1920x1080 with 1:1 scaling. Assuming the xbox360 vga signal doesnt suck, it should look something like this:



*much* better than a strecthed component signal.

EDIT2:

oh...dear...god....
i noticed most games run at 720p so i tried VGA @ 1280x720. I hope to GOD this is my crappy VGA signal to the monitor, because the 2405 handles it like crap:





Could someone else test a VGA signal @ 1280x720? hopefully this is just an isolated issue..

Last edited by gprime; 11-04-2005 at 09:24 PM..
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:30 PM
peacetilence 2[H]4U, 5.2 Years
 
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1080p/i aren't possible at all with the 2405fpw (not that the 1st gen 360's will even support it) 720p should be ok over component. 480p as you all should know will be 15% deformed. 3:2 aspect instead of 4;3.

I use my 2405fpw for PS2 just because I'm not really a console gamer and don't care that it looks like crap. I know that I have my eyes set on a 37-42" plasma tv in the future when I can afford one. The 2405's analog inputs are just poorly implemented.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:32 PM
peacetilence 2[H]4U, 5.2 Years
 
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In your 1920x1080 screenshot did you use the nvidia resolution/aspect drivers option because if I set it to 1920x1080 in DVI the monitor confuses it for 1920x1200 so it stretches out on the entire screen. I haven't tried it over DVI but if it works without using the nvidia scaling option that gives us some hope of 1080p on this monitor without having to use a PC source!
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peacetilence
In your 1920x1080 screenshot did you use the nvidia resolution/aspect drivers option because if I set it to 1920x1080 in DVI the monitor confuses it for 1920x1200 so it stretches out on the entire screen. I haven't tried it over DVI but if it works without using the nvidia scaling option that gives us some hope of 1080p on this monitor without having to use a PC source!
I only used the scaling from the monitor options (hardware scaling, i guess it would be called).

AFAIK, you can only do 1:1 hardware scaling when you use VGA (in the screenshot you can see the settings in the middle of the screen). Doesn't seem to let me change the scaling option for DVI (like you said). Why? Who knows ... :P

EDIT:

What the heck. I just tried every resolution. My 2405 handles every resolution fine EXCEPT for 1280x720. Just my luck

Last edited by gprime; 11-04-2005 at 11:00 PM..
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:30 AM
peacetilence 2[H]4U, 5.2 Years
 
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Yeah it confuses it for 1280x1024. 720p does work over component though. It's the only thing I've seen over component that maintains the correct aspect ratio. The only way next gen consoles are going to work correctly on the monitor over dvi, is if they have some built in scaling for 16:10 displays, which is extremely unlikely.
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Old 11-06-2005, 10:01 AM
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some dude on ocuk has dev kit connected to his 2405 and he says it displays everything no probs
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Old 11-06-2005, 10:03 AM
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damn those pics are huge, sorry 56k peeps hope it didnt kill your conn.
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:14 PM
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crap. that looks great on component. the reason i say "crap" is because my 2405 treats component signals like poop. its all blurry and has lines through it and everything. i thought all 2405's had this problem, but i guess it is just me..
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:58 PM
Yaka Limp Gawd, 5.8 Years
 
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mine dont, use both xbox and ps2 on it. i got mine when it first came out had no probs, a couple of friends of mine got em recently and both have probs via component must newer firmware or some thing
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:09 PM
Chilly [H]ard|Gawd, 4.1 Years
 
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I got a 1920x1200 23" LCD (BenQ not dell 24) and DAMN those images are the FIRST images EVER POSTED IN ANY FOURMS that were too big to view without SCROLLING, AHHH THE SHITTY MEMRIES OF LOW RESOLUTIONS!!!!! :P

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Old 11-06-2005, 02:50 PM
Yaka Limp Gawd, 5.8 Years
 
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heh not my pics
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:28 PM
Cannibal Corpse Gawd, 7.2 Years
 
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What about PS2? I have a component cable (Monster) that is already connected to my 36" WEGA, but it is aging fast (no Progressive Scan mode) and I would LOVE to see it it will look good on a PS2 or not. Thanks!
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