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Old 03-14-2005, 02:04 AM
fallguy 2[H]4U, 9.0 Years
 
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2405FPW vs. 2005FPW, side by side pics to compare

I did a compare of a 2001FP vs. 2005FPW several months back. It helped some people make a decision, hopefully this will as well. Sdly, my photography hasnt gotten any better. Please bear with me..






The 2405FPW is just a little lower than the 2005FPW when both are all the way down.







The 2005FPW tilts back just a hair more than the 2405FPW.




Still a little lower, even more so now.



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Old 03-14-2005, 02:06 AM
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The entite 2005FPW fits inside the 2405FPWs viewing area.







From the desk, to the top, both fully extended.



Both lowered all the way down, taken from the desk.

Last edited by fallguy; 03-14-2005 at 04:37 PM..
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:07 AM
fallguy 2[H]4U, 9.0 Years
 
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2405FPW connections. Note the component.





2005FPW connections.





USB and card reader back to the left side, as the 2001FP had them (USB).





2005FPW connections on the right side.



Which do I like better? I think the obvious choice is the 2405FPW. Both a great LCD's to me. There are some subtle differences in them, I prefer the 2405FPW however. I like the USB on the right side. Its where my USB printer is, and Ive gotten used to it over there. Now when I want to print something, I have to take the cable across the desk, to the right side. Or better yet, just buy a longer cable and connect it to my PC.

I also like how the 2005FPWs power plug was more in the middle of the LCD. If you look at the connections pics, you can see this. It makes it much easier to hide the cable, as the power cable is pretty large. When its in the middle, it goes right down the back of the stand, and in the cable holder. The 2045FPWs plug is on the end, which makes it harder.

The 2405FPW also takes longer to come out of sleep mode. When both monitors are off after not being used, the 2005FPW comes on faster, by about 2 seconds. I doubt I would have noticed if they were not side by side.

Are any of these deal breakers? Not even close to me, just some small things I have noticed. I would like the USB on the right.. and the plug in the middle, but at the end of the day, its not a big deal. Neither is two more seconds to turn on after being asleep.

I also ran some HL2 benches to compare the res'. I dont claim to be an expert on benchmarking, just sharing some results. I ran HL2 in 1680x1050 for the 2005FPW, and 1920x1200 for the 2405FPW. AA and AF were chosen within the game, here is a pic of the settings. The same settings were used for both LCDs, all I did was exit the game, reboot, and change with LCD was primary, and then change the res. Drivers were set for A.I. to be off, quality up on the highest, and AA/AF set to app preference. Overdrive was off. I created a small (3min) demo in Canals. The level had lots of water, lots of explosions, and a chopper thing chasing me. My specs that matter are, 3500+ Whinchester@2.5gig, 2x512 Mushkin LvL2 PC3500 2-2-10-2T@1:1, Raptor 74gig, X850XT/PE running at stock, and Asus A8N SLI nForce4 mobo.

1920x1200;
0xAA/0xAF: 114.67
2xAA/8xAF: 67.05
4xAA/16xAF: 52.11

1680x1050;
0xAA/0xAF: 119.98
2xAA/8xAF: 77.06
4xAA/16xAF: 59.26

To be honest, I expected more of a difference. But as they Berman says... "That's why they play the game."

I tried Doom3, but the results were almost exactly the same. It does not support WS out of the box, but with a simple config file edit, it works. I dont know if the edit didnt work for some reason, or of the FPS cap hurt me. I havent played it sine about a month after it came out, but installed it to test for people.

I would also like to try Farcry.. but I havent found any benchmarking utility that goes over 1600x1200. And there is no built in timedemo that I am aware of. I dont want to run thru with fraps, not that I dont trust it, more like lazinessto try and do the exact same scenario twice.

Once again, not claiming to be a benchmarking expert, just trying to help people making a decision on upgrading monitors, or just buying a new one. If someone wants any additional tests done, I can probably do them. However, I am going out of town again for two weeks (just got back from being out for two weeks ) and am leaving tomorrow at Midnight. So I may not be able to do much.

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Old 03-14-2005, 02:30 AM
danbanger Limp Gawd, 5.7 Years
 
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Wow, Great post once again

The 2405 makes the 2005 look puny. haha

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Old 03-14-2005, 05:37 AM
jacobb [H]Lite, 5.6 Years
 
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does this have those awful backlight issues?.. i currently have 4 of the 2005s and all 4 have some slight issues.. im considering buying 2 of the 2405s but backlight could be a problem
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Old 03-14-2005, 06:00 AM
fallguy 2[H]4U, 9.0 Years
 
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No, none.



As you can see, my 2005FPW does, but the 2405FPW doesnt. You cant see it all, but I assure you it doesnt.
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Old 03-14-2005, 06:54 AM
jacobb [H]Lite, 5.6 Years
 
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now once they drop back to 900$ ill buy 2 of them woot
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Old 03-14-2005, 08:57 AM
burningrave101 [H]ardForum Junkie, 7.0 Years
 
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Well there is definitely a size difference between the two although i'm not sure its enough to warrant the extra cost at the moment for me. I snagged the 2005FPW for $486 last week. Thats almost $400 cheaper then the 2405FPW. I'm hopeing i wont get one with stuck pixels or a backlighting problem.
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:28 AM
boneca Limp Gawd, 5.6 Years
 
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Great comparison, thank you. Now I want to replace my 2005 with 2405 even more, just need to find the way to do it. Don't really want to spend more than $300 for the upgrade but this is probably impossible at the moment
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Old 03-14-2005, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fallguy
I did a compare of a 2001FP vs. 2005FPW several months back. It helped some people make a decision, hopefully this will as well. Sdly, my photography hasnt gotten any better. Please bear with me..
Shame on you for torturing these people who have recently bought the 2005FPW.
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Old 03-14-2005, 10:40 AM
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In that first pic it looks like the 2405 has better color then the 2001. Are both lcds hooked up through dvi?
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Old 03-14-2005, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
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From the desk, to the top, both fully extended.
Question for you, how tall are each of them when their both lowered as much as possible, not fully extended?

My desk here at school has a bookshelf on it that limits the vertical height, I could remove it, however I'm curious if either of the monitors would fit.

Thanks.
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Old 03-14-2005, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clear
Question for you, how tall are each of them when their both lowered as much as possible, not fully extended?

My desk here at school has a bookshelf on it that limits the vertical height, I could remove it, however I'm curious if either of the monitors would fit.

Thanks.
In the first picture I think it seems like both are lowered all the way. With my 2005fpw it is 16" from the table to the top of the lcd bezel at the lowest position. Seems like the 2405" is a bit higher but not by much.
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Old 03-14-2005, 01:28 PM
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Great post! So fallguy, do you how many dell lcds do you have? Also where did you find those pretty widescreen wallpapers? Thanks
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Old 03-14-2005, 01:34 PM
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Great post! So fallguy, do you how many dell lcds do you have? Also where did you find those pretty widescreen wallpapers? Thanks
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/
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Old 03-14-2005, 03:13 PM
QHalo 2[H]4U, 8.0 Years
 
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I just got my 2005FP, and I absolutely love it. I would've jumped on the 2405 but I figured I could get two 2005FP's for the same price...so erm. Either way I love the panel. I'll pick up the 24" sometime in the future I'm sure. I have penis envy and fallguy is winning



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Old 03-14-2005, 03:35 PM
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I get my 2005 tomorrow, I would have liked the 2405 but couldn't come up with the extra cash at this time. Nice post, great pics, thanks!
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Old 03-14-2005, 03:40 PM
AMDXP Banned, 6.2 Years
 
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Post your setup , it would help the benchmarking a lil.
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Old 03-14-2005, 04:37 PM
fallguy 2[H]4U, 9.0 Years
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Equalizer
In that first pic it looks like the 2405 has better color then the 2001. Are both lcds hooked up through dvi?
Sorry, yes they are. With a X850XT/PE PCI-E, which has dual DVI.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clear
Question for you, how tall are each of them when their both lowered as much as possible, not fully extended?

My desk here at school has a bookshelf on it that limits the vertical height, I could remove it, however I'm curious if either of the monitors would fit.

Thanks.
Pic added to show this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by intelbrain
Great post! So fallguy, do you how many dell lcds do you have? Also where did you find those pretty widescreen wallpapers? Thanks
Just three right now. 2405FPW, 2005FPW, and my old trusty 1800FP which is on my daughters LCD. Used to have a 2001FP, which I sold when I got my 2005FPW.

Here is where I got mine; http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/r...ons.php?w=1920

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Post your setup , it would help the benchmarking a lil.
I did, check the end of my last post. But here they are again;
3500+@2.5gig
2x512 Mushkin LvL2 PC3500
X850XT/PE PCI-E
Asus A8N-SLI
74gig Raptor
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:11 PM
Riptide_NVN Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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Originally Posted by Equalizer
In that first pic it looks like the 2405 has better color then the 2001. Are both lcds hooked up through dvi?
Keep in mind you're viewing those images through YOUR display... That isn't even close to a truly accurate representation of what that image looks like in person. Which is why I would never draw to much in the way of conclusions regarding picture quality of any display when that image is taken by a camera, then reproduced on your display.

But you can definitely tell there is some sort of difference there, that much at least is true.
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