Windows 10 Installed 75M Times In One Month

I did finally get mine installed on the weekend ... they told me my PC was being validated until last week and I didn't want to make the change until the weekend ... I like it so far although there is always a challenge learning a new OS (especially since one moved a few things around and eliminated a few things from Win 7)
 
Still no Oculus Rift support = No VR Porn, meh I will 'stick' with windows 8 :)
 
I gradually upgraded the computers in my house after a few weeks and still have a bunch of other family machines to do. The process was much smoother than I anticipated. Some machines still weren't saying they were ready to upgrade, so I just forced it with the ISO.
 
Not surprised. It's what W8 should have been from day one of its release.
 
DejaWiz said:
Not surprised. It's what W8 should have been from day one of its release.
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Microsoft going for that bust boom cycle so you will definitely upgrade. Vista was a bust, 7 was a boom, 8 was a bust, 10 is a boom lol. Next windows will suck if they ever get around to making it.
 
75 million chumps .. From a security standpoint Windows 10 phones home and spams ads way too much. I can wait to test the enterprise version.
 
///AMG said:
Microsoft going for that bust boom cycle so you will definitely upgrade. Vista was a bust, 7 was a boom, 8 was a bust, 10 is a boom lol. Next windows will suck if they ever get around to making it.
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Win10 - boom
W8 - bust
Win7 - boom
WinVi - bust
WinXP - boom
WinME - bust
Win98 - boom
Win95 - bust
DOS/Win3x - boom




At least they didn't stray from their historical pattern...Can't say the same about any other OS maker. :p
 
DejaWiz said:
Win10 - boom
W8 - bust
Win7 - boom
WinVi - bust
WinXP - boom
WinME - bust
Win98 - boom
Win95 - bust
DOS/Win3x - boom




At least they didn't stray from their historical pattern...Can't say the same about any other OS maker. :p
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Lol? 95 wasn't a bust, 98 sucked until SE, XP sucked until SP1. I don't think you remember Windows very well.
 
Streiw said:
Lol? 95 wasn't a bust, 98 sucked until SE, XP sucked until SP1. I don't think you remember Windows very well.
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Even XP from the very beginning was far better than ME, especially in stability and avoiding BSODs. :shudder:
 
Streiw said:
Lol? 95 wasn't a bust, 98 sucked until SE, XP sucked until SP1. I don't think you remember Windows very well.
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Agreed, 98SE felt like a new OS in itself. 95 was really good, a lot to learn at the time and a huge leap forward for the pc market. Still being mainly dos based it was easy for us old guys to still make system changes. (boot into DOS mode....)
 
DejaWiz said:
Win10 - boom
W8 - bust
Win7 - boom
WinVi - bust
WinXP - boom
WinME - bust
Win98 - boom
Win95 - bust
DOS/Win3x - boom




At least they didn't stray from their historical pattern...Can't say the same about any other OS maker. :p
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It is very much a tick tock cycle, almost by design. Microsoft can experiment (the bust releases) and then refine (the boom released) because the only true competitor to the latest version of Windows is a prior version of Windows.

But the most unique thing about this version of Windows are the free upgrades from 7 & 8.1. That pretty much guaranteed large market share because versions of Windows get their market share mostly from new hardware, 10 will probably get most its share through upgrades. That why the free upgrades really don't have much impact on Microsoft's bottom line while gaining tons of market share.
 
LBJM said:
75 million chumps .. From a security standpoint Windows 10 phones home and spams ads way too much. I can wait to test the enterprise version.
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This is why I use Windows only for games.

Everything else is done in Linux.

You can disable most of the data reporting in Windows 10, with the exception of the crash dump reporting section, but even when you do it seems to keep connecting to microsoft servers.

I'm considering firewalling them.
 
Streiw said:
Lol? 95 wasn't a bust, 98 sucked until SE, XP sucked until SP1. I don't think you remember Windows very well.
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Just noticed that he had 95 as bust, probably not how most would see it. As much as people are bemoaning 10 and the forced updates and privacy issues, XP's launch was MUCH rougher. Everyday there was a new serious security flaw it seemed for a while. It really didn't get sorted out until SP2 though almost 3 years after launch.
 
i'll wait until the privacy issues are sorted out. i don't mean those that you can disable, but those that are unknown yet. or i'll just use win7 for another five years.
 
Zarathustra[H];1041818172 said:
You can disable most of the data reporting in Windows 10, with the exception of the crash dump reporting section, but even when you do it seems to keep connecting to microsoft servers.
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Connecting to servers isn't the same as uploading files on hard drives or keylogging.
 
Windows 8 *sold* 40 million (yes, people paying for it) in the first month.. maybe this news isn't all that great?

Oh, and just like what happened with Windows 8, many people backed down to Windows 7.... and I hear some of the same is happening as people discover all sort of things about Windows 10 that are too different (missing programs, ads, security issues, incompatibilities).
 
Perhaps Windows 10 is better than Windows 8, but is that really saying that much? Pretty low bar, you know?
 
cjcox said:
Windows 8 *sold* 40 million (yes, people paying for it) in the first month.. maybe this news isn't all that great?

Oh, and just like what happened with Windows 8, many people backed down to Windows 7.... and I hear some of the same is happening as people discover all sort of things about Windows 10 that are too different (missing programs, ads, security issues, incompatibilities).
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Happens with any release. "nope, dont like it because i cant find mah stuffs" Time will tell, yes it is interesting to see how many have installed but I would love to see the adoption level after at least 3 months just to let the patches early bugs and the review and panic sites have died down.
 
Related: Windows 7 and XP are still flat and Windows 8/8.1 is declining (-0.3% and -3.2%, respectively) since Win10 launch. http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-weekly-201530-201535

Since Windows 10 went from ~0% to 5.7% in that window, I wonder where the other ~2% of share came from. Some could be dual boot and others new devices, but that's still a big chunk unaccounted for. That's one of the reasons I'm wary of statcounter data.
 
heatlesssun said:
Connecting to servers isn't the same as uploading files on hard drives or keylogging.
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True, but I'd like to know what they are doing.

If I am able, I'd like to firewall everything microsoft from my local network, except the Windows Update server.

Of course, they probably thought of that, and either do their spying by using the Windows Update server so you have to choose whether to forgo updates to maintain privacy,or allow spyware if you want updates.

That, or they probably use some sort of 3rd party or proxies as a backup if the main Ms servers are unreachable, so it becomes a game of firewall whack-a-mole.

IMHO, it is very important to maintain the local vs. internet distinction.

My desktop shouldn't be contacting ANY server, Microsoft or otherwise, without myself having initiated it manually. (except - of course - for Windows updates for security patching) and this should be the default behavior.

I don't want any cloud integration what so ever, I don't want a Microsoft account, I don't want a Microsoft app store and I sure as hell don't want an advertising ID.

There should be no IP connections made between my computer and any other computer local or remote, unless I explicitly initiate them every time.
 
cjcox said:
Windows 8 *sold* 40 million (yes, people paying for it) in the first month.. maybe this news isn't all that great?

Oh, and just like what happened with Windows 8, many people backed down to Windows 7.... and I hear some of the same is happening as people discover all sort of things about Windows 10 that are too different (missing programs, ads, security issues, incompatibilities).
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But this is the number of PCs actually running Windows 10, not licenses sold and the number seems to jibe with GS Stat Counter's latest daily number of 6.25% for Windows 10. And most importantly for Microsoft this 75 million number is almost all upgrades, not new PC sales or licenses sold to OEMs. That's a tectonic shift compared to prior versions of Windows.
 
heatlesssun said:
And most importantly for Microsoft this 75 million number is almost all upgrades, not new PC sales or licenses sold to OEMs. That's a tectonic shift compared to prior versions of Windows.
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It's amazing what Free* + taskbar nagware can do.
 
Went from XP to Vista, but made sure I got HW with proper drivers for Vista...No issues at all, very stable and the only BSOD I ever had with it was when I was trying to find a stable OC. Win7 was a nice GUI change to me, seemed a bit lighter than Vista. Win8 I really hated the GUI, Win8.1 fixed a few things, but Win8 overall was far more snappy than Win7, turned off all the touch features and installed Start8 and it was perfect, very very stable, never a single crash or hang with the system. Have now moved two systems to Win10, and no problems, feels even lighter than Win8 and has a pretty nice Start button and customizable, spent all of 3mins turning off all the reporting "features".
 
pxc said:
Related: Windows 7 and XP are still flat and Windows 8/8.1 is declining (-0.3% and -3.2%, respectively) since Win10 launch. http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-weekly-201530-201535

Since Windows 10 went from ~0% to 5.7% in that window, I wonder where the other ~2% of share came from. Some could be dual boot and others new devices, but that's still a big chunk unaccounted for. That's one of the reasons I'm wary of statcounter data.
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I highly question the legitimacy of that website for anything resembling accuracy.
 
Zarathustra[H];1041818272 said:
It's amazing what Free* + taskbar nagware can do.
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Not denying that. Of course the flip side would be having people out there who would want it but then have no idea what to do. I think of lot of the complaints about Windows 10 from more technical folks, particularly around the forced updates and privacy concerns, is that these are the kinds of things that are just expected and common place in the mobile world.

So on a phone, you sign in, stuff just syncs up, it tells you the temperature where you are, it all just works without much effort. But for some on a PC it's supposed to be exactly the opposite. Complete and explicit control over ever aching detail, don't anything by default without expressed consent with messages galore because lack of integration and ease are what PC users expect.

Whatever issues those most concerned about privacy have, PCs need to work more like mobile devices when in comes to ease of use and the cloud and services for average folks than the disconnected, unintegrated PC of the past by default.
 
Vercinaigh said:
I highly question the legitimacy of that website for anything resembling accuracy.
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Trying to count with high precision every connected device on the planet isn't an exact science. But most people seem to agree that these numbers are reasonable guestimates. The 75 million number Microsoft number is reporting her is consistent with the 6.25% market share. And when Microsoft announced 100 million Windows 10 installs in the next couple of weeks I'm guessing it's market share should be similar to OS X by that tracker. Netmarketshare's August numbers come out in next Tuesday, I'm guessing they'll be roughly showing about the same.
 
DejaWiz said:
Win10 - boom
W8 - bust
Win7 - boom
WinVi - bust
WinXP - boom
WinME - bust
Win98 - boom
Win95 - bust
DOS/Win3x - boom




At least they didn't stray from their historical pattern...Can't say the same about any other OS maker. :p
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Windows 10 is more of a "meh". The changes they made were not good, and they retained most of the things I hated about 8.1. So while I will upgrade my 8.1 to 10 I'll hold out on the desktop longer.

Had they just made it an optimized / stabler 8.1 with 7 style UI that would be been great. Instead, forced updates (enjoy waiting 30 minutes when you need to use your PC quickly), advertisements, store crap, some bad updates, a PITA to get into safe mode ect. Such a shame.
 
heatlesssun said:
Whatever issues those most concerned about privacy have, PCs need to work more like mobile devices when in comes to ease of use and the cloud and services for average folks than the disconnected, unintegrated PC of the past by default.
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I disagree. I want my phone to be more like my computer, not my computer more like my phone.

We need regulations to prevent any data collection without an explicit op-in, that does not hold said opt-in hostage for providing the service.

Just because you are providing a service that requires some amount of user data to function properly should NOT mean that you are free to use that data as you please. We need to legally divorce these two things such that if you are providing a free (or paid) service, you must provide it to everyone, whether or not they opt-in to allow you to use that data for purposes not tied to providing the service, and this must ALWAYS default to the most restrictive setting of not allowing any use.

The likes of Google, Apple and now Microsoft have gone too far, they absolutely must be stopped.
 
DejaWiz said:
Win10 - boom
W8 - bust
Win7 - boom
WinVi - bust
WinXP - boom
WinME - bust
Win98 - boom
Win95 - bust
DOS/Win3x - boom

At least they didn't stray from their historical pattern...Can't say the same about any other OS maker. :p
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And where is windows 2000? Anyway Win8 was a huge downgrade compared to Win7, And W10 is albeit a smaller, but still a downgrade (if we disregard the privacy issues). I mean what the hell is going on with the UI styling, it looks disgusting, at least W8 wasn't ugly, just useless. Now W10 would be usable, but it looks crap. What is up with that?
 
M76 said:
And where is windows 2000? Anyway Win8 was a huge downgrade compared to Win7, And W10 is albeit a smaller, but still a downgrade (if we disregard the privacy issues). I mean what the hell is going on with the UI styling, it looks disgusting, at least W8 wasn't ugly, just useless. Now W10 would be usable, but it looks crap. What is up with that?
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I for one like the Win10 styling better than Win 8.

I do wish you could collapse the start menu if you don't have any pinned tiles in it though. Now it's just big and empty looking.
 
heatlesssun said:
So on a phone, you sign in, stuff just syncs up, it tells you the temperature where you are, it all just works without much effort. But for some on a PC it's supposed to be exactly the opposite. Complete and explicit control over ever aching detail, don't anything by default without expressed consent with messages galore because lack of integration and ease are what PC users expect.
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Exactly one of the primary reasons I don't use my phone (aside from it being inferior to a PC). I know some people like yourself can't seem to separate the difference between two different types of devices though, so we'll end up with a half-assed middle of the road compromise that doesn't excel in any particular area.

Also, auto updates typically don't do anything. My iphone is 1 1/2 years old and I never updated it. And it works perfectly fine. Contrary to popular believe, updates aren't always necessary or needed.

But I'm sure you'll be happy getting worthless advertisements shoved down your throat on your paid (not "free" paid by advertisements) workstation or entertainment PC. And maybe enjoy getting stuck in an endless reboot loop because your PC decided to auto update when you had 1 hour to get work done.
 
LBJM said:
75 million chumps .. From a security standpoint Windows 10 phones home and spams ads way too much. I can wait to test the enterprise version.
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What are these ad's you're talking about? I also don't get your security concerns.
 
Flogger23m said:
Windows 10 is more of a "meh". The changes they made were not good, and they retained most of the things I hated about 8.1. So while I will upgrade my 8.1 to 10 I'll hold out on the desktop longer.

Had they just made it an optimized / stabler 8.1 with 7 style UI that would be been great. Instead, forced updates (enjoy waiting 30 minutes when you need to use your PC quickly), advertisements, store crap, some bad updates, a PITA to get into safe mode ect. Such a shame.
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Couldn't agree more. Windows 10 is dead to me with the forced update shit. Hopefully they pull the heads out of their asses some time this year. At the very least, allow server 2016 and WSUS to be the end-all-be-all on updates and data mining.
 
Rock&Roll said:
Couldn't agree more. Windows 10 is dead to me with the forced update shit. Hopefully they pull the heads out of their asses some time this year. At the very least, allow server 2016 and WSUS to be the end-all-be-all on updates and data mining.
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If forced updates are an issue for you just get the Pro version and update the Local Security Policy. Heck even with the home version you can delay the updates by saying you are on a metered connection.
 
Honestly this isn't that surprising news to me. Personally I'm in support in encouraging the masses to be on the current, most up to date platform to ensure they have the best supported OS with the latest security, performance and stability improvements.

There is a lot of talk about some of the privacy changes and lack of control of windows update for home users. While it seems wrong to deny the user the choice to update or not, it's honestly in everyone's best interest that we don't have people arbitrarily avoiding important security updates because ,"updates might break my computer". I'm amazed how many users I've talked to with this attitude. Working in IT and supporting many PCs, I value the oppertunity to examine and test updates and deploy them in a coordinated way. Microsoft hasn't taken that away from me. At home, it's different. If updates install and something breaks (very rare in my experience), you deal with it at that time.

Anyhow, Windows 10 is definitely a go in my books and it will only get better when the hardware vendors get their shit together. But it could be much worse this early in the release cycle.
 
Canon said:
Honestly this isn't that surprising news to me. Personally I'm in support in encouraging the masses to be on the current, most up to date platform to ensure they have the best supported OS with the latest security, performance and stability improvements.

There is a lot of talk about some of the privacy changes and lack of control of windows update for home users. While it seems wrong to deny the user the choice to update or not, it's honestly in everyone's best interest that we don't have people arbitrarily avoiding important security updates because ,"updates might break my computer". I'm amazed how many users I've talked to with this attitude. Working in IT and supporting many PCs, I value the oppertunity to examine and test updates and deploy them in a coordinated way. Microsoft hasn't taken that away from me. At home, it's different. If updates install and something breaks (very rare in my experience), you deal with it at that time.

Anyhow, Windows 10 is definitely a go in my books and it will only get better when the hardware vendors get their shit together. But it could be much worse this early in the release cycle.
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At my company, one update for windows 7 resolved a bug in our product. It was amazing how many people would hang up or break email contact when I would tell them the first step is to update their pc. The bug was obvious so from a message I could tell what problem they had. Either they were terrified of updates or more likely pirated.
 
Flogger23m said:
Windows 10 is more of a "meh". The changes they made were not good, and they retained most of the things I hated about 8.1. So while I will upgrade my 8.1 to 10 I'll hold out on the desktop longer.

Had they just made it an optimized / stabler 8.1 with 7 style UI that would be been great. Instead, forced updates (enjoy waiting 30 minutes when you need to use your PC quickly), advertisements, store crap, some bad updates, a PITA to get into safe mode ect. Such a shame.
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You mean besides

The return of am improved start button
Windowed apps like photo viewer
A much faster Spartan browser'
And Direct X 12.

Yep nothing to see here.
 
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