Comcast Charging $300 For 2Gbps Service

That's really not that bad for 2Gbps - here in Charter territory, a 1Gbps fiber link will run several thousand per month, and multiple 200Mbps coax lines run $169/ea per month.

I know the install seems steep, but you can always speak to engineering beforehand - if that cost includes installing the endpoint, that's right about what Charter charges for a business fiber install (or more depending on how long the run is).
 
Then you also get to pay $800 for a loud 10gig switch, or else get your connection limited to a gig by your internal network.

And of course it is Comcast, so they probably have a stupidly low data cap and saturated peer links.
 
yea, was thinking the same. its not cheap, but jesus, its 2000Mbit/sec. I'd hope you'd have a business reason to make this a tax write off, or several roommates who never intend to leave their bedrooms (I'm not judging for what you'd do with that bandwidth, after all) who are helping pay for it, anyway.
 
2gig is not ideal due to the network equipment costs. PCIE card with 10 gig limits to PC's only no laptops. 10gig switch costs a lot. Comcast should just be focusing on gig and making it more available and cheaper rather than 2 gig. 10 gig ethernet never took off at home market due to mobile devices. A customer would be better spending the money for better wifi equipment than 2gig.
 
Since this is limited to residential customers, it's really just a publicity stunt for the SOHO users (admittedly, like myself) that also run servers at home as well as at work.

I run an internal 10Gbit network here with pfSense handling the multi-WAN 200mbps inbound lines, and would kill for this price and speed. I pay $500/mo for the equivalent of 600Mbit with a whopping 21Mbit upload... And that's across three open sockets, so you need to aggregate to reach those speeds in either direction.

Anyway, I get that's it's insane for most, but there are just a few of us who would LOVE this. Otherwise, like I said, it's a big publicity stunt that says "hey, look - we have TWICE your fiber's capacity"... Marketing for you.
 
How many multi-gig service providers are there for price comparison ... if they all charge in that vicinity then I don't see any issue with it ... I pay about $50/month (give or take since it is part of a double play deal) for 50 MB service ... that service is 40 times faster at 6 times the cost ... doesn't seem that unreasonable (if you need that much speed)
 
Considering the amount of ramp up I've seen in just my area, and the talk of much more availability by the end of next year, it's not really a publicity stunt.
 
Looks like fair pricing for me in a business realm.
 
Dirty Butler said:
Considering the amount of ramp up I've seen in just my area, and the talk of much more availability by the end of next year, it's not really a publicity stunt.
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It is when, as previous posters mentioned, the hardware required to utilize muti-gig connections is out of consumer reach.

I don't see too many residential customers going out and grabbing a 10Gbit switch, Mellanox PCIe cards, SFP+ cabling, etc.
 
Who the fuck needs 2Gb internet anyways? You can't even utilize that. Even if you download porn from 10 computers simultaneously, theres no way in hell you are even getting close to 2Gb.

It all depends on the web servers you are connecting to.
 
thetaone said:
That's really not that bad for 2Gbps - here in Charter territory, a 1Gbps fiber link will run several thousand per month, and multiple 200Mbps coax lines run $169/ea per month.

I know the install seems steep, but you can always speak to engineering beforehand - if that cost includes installing the endpoint, that's right about what Charter charges for a business fiber install (or more depending on how long the run is).
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The key is this isn't for business customers, it's for residential customers. Once again showing why ISP monopolies are bad for consumers. I thought AT&T was gouging everyone not living in Austin, but comcast is taking it to a whole new level.
 
Motley said:
Who the fuck needs 2Gb internet anyways? You can't even utilize that. Even if you download porn from 10 computers simultaneously, theres no way in hell you are even getting close to 2Gb.

It all depends on the web servers you are connecting to.
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This is always the general argument... "Who the hell needs over 640k!?"

I assure you that you can easily max out any WAN speed given the right peering and co-location. Our servers are all homed on 10Gbit-40Gbit datacenter outbounds, and can fulfill 500Mbit/s per port connection without breaking a sweat (as long as you have the storage I/O to back the multiple requests - SSD RAID-60 is a wonderful thing). 2Gbps can be achieved up or down using only 4 sockets/connections.

Not all bandwidth is used for piracy or porn. If you're thinking of this in terms of HTTP, you're not the target consumer for this product.
 
nilepez said:
The key is this isn't for business customers, it's for residential customers. Once again showing why ISP monopolies are bad for consumers. I thought AT&T was gouging everyone not living in Austin, but comcast is taking it to a whole new level.
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I will bet you that they will take a loss on laying the fiber, installing the endpoints, and doing customer installations even at those fee levels.

Price out a decent fiber demarc and you'll most likely be stunned. Then, add the cost of physical installation, inside conversion... on and on.

I think I've made my point, though. It's useless for everyone except those that can actually utilize it. For all other intents and purposes, it's a publicity stunt...
 
Unless you have a dozen people downloading pRon at the same time anything over 100 Mb down is a waste. For the most part. Everything will be server speed dependent and/or throttled anyways.

Different story for a business of course.
 
kbrickley said:
How many multi-gig service providers are there for price comparison ... if they all charge in that vicinity then I don't see any issue with it ... I pay about $50/month (give or take since it is part of a double play deal) for 50 MB service ... that service is 40 times faster at 6 times the cost ... doesn't seem that unreasonable (if you need that much speed)
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Using 1GB as the model (because almost nobody needs 1GB, much less 2, unless it's for business...and Comcast specifies residential.

Google $70.00/month (no installation fee with a commitment)
Chattanooga: $70.00 month (they to 100mb for $58)
Charter (Columbia/Jefferson City MO, Denver CO, La Crosse WI , Las Vegas NV,
Minneapolis/St. Paul MN, Omaha NE, Orlando FL, Platteville WI,
Portland OR, Salt Lake City UT, Seattle WA
)


Aw screw it here's a link to a list of places from 2013 http://arstechnica.com/business/201...er-home-internet-move-to-one-of-these-cities/

Prices start at 70 buck
 
Motley said:
Who the fuck needs 2Gb internet anyways? You can't even utilize that. Even if you download porn from 10 computers simultaneously, theres no way in hell you are even getting close to 2Gb.

It all depends on the web servers you are connecting to.
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You're sort of forgetting something crucial here. You'd need a 10Gb NIC to take advantage of that 2Gb speed. That is unless you've figured out how to provide a redundant router at the edge of your network that can load-balance that 2Gb split to 1Gb per router, and then use port-channel on your switches to utilize that speed as well.
Your home computer likely has 1Gb NIC, your home router does as well. Selling 2Gb speed to a router that can only support 1Gb is sort of useless. But it is even more likely that the switchports on your homerouter are 1Gb speed, but the WAN port is 100Mb. So its like getting on the autobahn with a BMX bike. You can go as fast as you want, but there is a physical limitation to how fast you'll actually go.
This is like that shitty verizon or att commercial with the Trials fuzion "no lag" gimmick. You're getting gullible people to think that they need the speed, even though they don't realize that their in home network can't support that speed.
 
considering we pay over $3000/month for a 1gig fiber from comcast that's a bargain
 
Competition is amazing here in Kansas City.

I have Google Fiber and I also just dropped my cell phone carrier for Google Project Fi which is only $20 to $30 a month all fees / taxes included.

I get stuff weekly from Time Warner, Sprint, Verizon, ATT basically begging me to come back.

I pay $70 a month for 1gbit and as I said, on average $23 a month for phone service as long as I don't use data outside the home. I'm at home 24/7 but do go out a few times a week and on the weekends. My average data is 250meg a month and that's for GPS / Web when I need to price match at Best Buy or Microcenter or check movie times.
 
thetaone said:
I will bet you that they will take a loss on laying the fiber, installing the endpoints, and doing customer installations even at those fee levels.

Price out a decent fiber demarc and you'll most likely be stunned. Then, add the cost of physical installation, inside conversion... on and on.

I think I've made my point, though. It's useless for everyone except those that can actually utilize it. For all other intents and purposes, it's a publicity stunt...
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Lol... ISP profit margins are outrageous. They'll make plenty of money on each and every one of these installs.
 
thetaone said:
This is always the general argument... "Who the hell needs over 640k!?"

I assure you that you can easily max out any WAN speed given the right peering and co-location. Our servers are all homed on 10Gbit-40Gbit datacenter outbounds, and can fulfill 500Mbit/s per port connection without breaking a sweat (as long as you have the storage I/O to back the multiple requests - SSD RAID-60 is a wonderful thing). 2Gbps can be achieved up or down using only 4 sockets/connections.

Not all bandwidth is used for piracy or porn. If you're thinking of this in terms of HTTP, you're not the target consumer for this product.
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Well you're talking about a business that runs servers. This is Comcast Internet for HOME USERS. Not businesses with datacenters.
 
thetaone said:
I will bet you that they will take a loss on laying the fiber, installing the endpoints, and doing customer installations even at those fee levels.

Price out a decent fiber demarc and you'll most likely be stunned. Then, add the cost of physical installation, inside conversion... on and on.

I think I've made my point, though. It's useless for everyone except those that can actually utilize it. For all other intents and purposes, it's a publicity stunt...
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No they won't. Chattanooga was doing Gigabit 5 years before Google and while Lafayette LA is on the high side, they're still about 1/3 of the price of Comcast. If you get Phone/cable, then the price drops to 70....and truth is it's cheaper to get all 3 than to just get internet, though the cheapest is 1Gb Internet+phone for 90 bucks

The only question is is there demand for it in a given area (at 70-90 bucks)? If there is, then it's profitable. I'm not sure why people think internet has a narrow profit margin. Even at 80 bucks/month, they'll make than off of a typical cable tv subscriber.
 
Motley said:
Well you're talking about a business that runs servers. This is Comcast Internet for HOME USERS. Not businesses with datacenters.
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I'd agree with you, but the examples I've given here are from my own pocket, sitting in my own home. Our datacenter and co-lo systems are a different story entirely.

Sure, this isn't a datacenter down here (thank God for that - the noise from the chillers would be enough to drive us all insane), but with the ability to have a 2Gbps sym link, I can spend a lot more time here with my family instead of being on-site at our server farm(s). With most users still not even having 1Gbps local Ethernet connections, this is astounding to have what amounts to a 1Gbps LAN-like VPN connection with enough overhead for 1Gbps transfers.

It's funny the amount of push-back from others there is here, even though I'm agreeing with what they're saying. I account for less than 0.00001% of the population that could/would use this.

Until then, I'm stuck paying the same $550/mo for three DOCSIS 200/7 connections, sitting on thousands of dollars in aggregation hardware, and hoping for something like this to become available. ;)
 
Work currently pays for my ISP, it's $150/mo for 3Mbs.

So yeah, comparatively, Comcast would be a bargain.
 
I get roughly 180Mbps for $50/month with Comcast now (until the promo pricing ends), it does well enough for me now that I don't need to change.
 
I can get 505Mbps for $399 in the Greater Baltimore area right now... Though I'll stick with getting screwed over by paying $80 for 105 Mbps before paying that price! Hopefully when 2Gbps comes to my area for $299 my current price goes down and I get a nice speed boost.
 
nilepez said:
Using 1GB as the model (because almost nobody needs 1GB, much less 2, unless it's for business...and Comcast specifies residential.

Google $70.00/month (no installation fee with a commitment)
Chattanooga: $70.00 month (they to 100mb for $58)
Charter (Columbia/Jefferson City MO, Denver CO, La Crosse WI , Las Vegas NV,
Minneapolis/St. Paul MN, Omaha NE, Orlando FL, Platteville WI,
Portland OR, Salt Lake City UT, Seattle WA
)


Aw screw it here's a link to a list of places from 2013 http://arstechnica.com/business/201...er-home-internet-move-to-one-of-these-cities/

Prices start at 70 buck
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Charter definitely isn't in Portland
 
Well. I tried to find out if it is available. Seems their bot doesn't understand.

Emily: Hi, I am a live Comcast product specialist. What questions can I answer for you today?
Emily: How may I help you today?
You: I'd like to find out if the 2Gbit "Multi-Gig" service is available at my address, and if so, what the cost would be for it.
Emily: The vast majority - more than 99% - of our customers will not be impacted by a 300 GB monthly data usage threshold.
Emily: I'd be happy to assist you in finding the best plan that may suit your needs and guide you throughout the order process.
Emily: Do you mind if I ask a few questions to make sure we get the ideal service that best suits your needs?
You: You're not answering my question.
You: http://www.xfinity.com/multi-gig-offers
You: I want to know if the above linked service is available at my address
You: Can you help me with that?
Emily: I recommend calling our Customer Service Team.
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thetaone said:
That's really not that bad for 2Gbps - here in Charter territory, a 1Gbps fiber link will run several thousand per month, and multiple 200Mbps coax lines run $169/ea per month.

I know the install seems steep, but you can always speak to engineering beforehand - if that cost includes installing the endpoint, that's right about what Charter charges for a business fiber install (or more depending on how long the run is).
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In monopoly territories sure it's not a bad deal lol. 1Gbps fiber in rural Chatanooga is $70 with none of that installation fees bs, and if you're lucky to fall under Vermont's VTel service area then 10gbps is $400 by comparison.

So basically this is a "great deal" for a regional monopoly considering it's only twice as expensive as a theoretical 2Gpbs in a rural town in the middle of nowhere.
 
Peopel are freaking out about 10gbit switches and 10gbit nic you dont need thta
you need one switch with ONE 10gbit port and the rest of you networks can be a switched 1gbit .
You don't need that 2gbs pathway to every single unit but just your combined usage has reach 2gbs. So 2 PCs getting 1gbit each or 5 units getting 400mbits each.
I dont know about you guys but i sure as hell have alot more than just a couple of units using the internet.
 
SixFootDuo said:
Competition is amazing here in Kansas City.

I have Google Fiber and I also just dropped my cell phone carrier for Google Project Fi which is only $20 to $30 a month all fees / taxes included.

I get stuff weekly from Time Warner, Sprint, Verizon, ATT basically begging me to come back.

I pay $70 a month for 1gbit and as I said, on average $23 a month for phone service as long as I don't use data outside the home. I'm at home 24/7 but do go out a few times a week and on the weekends. My average data is 250meg a month and that's for GPS / Web when I need to price match at Best Buy or Microcenter or check movie times.
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I can back this up.
My company was paying $900/month for 20/20fiber
Just TODAY we got Google Fiber to our office for $125/mo (extra $25/mo for 5 static IPs.

I live outside the reach of Google Fiber (I will be moving to an area that gets fiber soon) and TWC recently upgrade my 50/5 service to 200/20 for free just to stay competitive.

ATT recently announced that they will be setting up a fiber line here in KC as well.
 
Very tempting. I'm paying about half that for 150/20, and really all I want is more upstream, even 100 down is plenty. But comcast doesn't offer more than 20 up without making the big jump.
 
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