American ISPs Receive 1.1M Piracy Settlements Per Week

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Holy cow! 1.1M piracy settlements a week? Can that number be right? :eek:

For the first time, Los Angeles based anti-piracy firm CEG TEK has revealed the scope of their piracy monetization efforts. The company currently sends 1.1 million notices to U.S. ISPs per week. A massive number, but only a small percentage reaches the alleged downloaders.
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It appears that the article meant "1.1 million settlement notices per week" but, even so, that number (57+ million a year) seem awful damn high.
 
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Notices, not settlements. Says right in the quote the vast majority go nowhere.

Even the ones that reach downloaders are probably only a notice from their ISP, not an actual lawsuit.
 
Taco said:
Notices, not settlements. Says right in the quote the vast majority go nowhere.

Even the ones that reach downloaders are probably only a notice from their ISP, not an actual lawsuit.
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The headline says settlements. But even if they are just notices, that number seems extremely high.
 
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I've always said that a buck a song is outrageous, and lots of people looked at me like I was smoking crack.

Your average iPod even back in the day to actually fill it with music would have cost around $18,000 IIRC.

A far better business plan is to have a subscription service where you fill up your device with as many tunes as you want (or none and stream them always), and pay $10 a year or something.
 
Ducman69 said:
I've always said that a buck a song is outrageous, and lots of people looked at me like I was smoking crack.
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I think this is because when you think of it in piecemeal form, $1 per song doesn't seem that ridiculous. However, what if your library is 1000 songs, or 10,000 songs....it's just that the average person doesn't see more than 2 inches in front of their face (metaphorically).
 
Ducman69 said:
I've always said that a buck a song is outrageous, and lots of people looked at me like I was smoking crack.

Your average iPod even back in the day to actually fill it with music would have cost around $18,000 IIRC.

A far better business plan is to have a subscription service where you fill up your device with as many tunes as you want (or none and stream them always), and pay $10 a year or something.
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$10 a year? That'll never happen until the major labels die off and artists sell their own music.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/23482610186.shtml
 
Why does the number of songs someone buys have anything to do with what is a reasonable per song price? $1 songs are about the most reasonably priced things you can buy today.
 
Koolthulu said:
Why does the number of songs someone buys have anything to do with what is a reasonable per song price? $1 songs are about the most reasonably priced things you can buy today.
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When you can go buy used CDs for like $5 or less...not really.
 
I'd love to own every video game out there, but at $20-$60 each, I can't. So, my collection won't get huge. I'll have to pick and choose the best ones I want for a price I can afford and want. Same with music. $1 per song isn't bad. If you want them all, you'll pay for it. But, if you buy the good stuff that you'll listen to, it won't be a problem.

It wasn't a problem when CD's were $15 each and people bought 3-4 at a time and had a lot of music. $1 each song isn't bad. I feel that I may miss out on some great albums, though. I have found some bands with a good song that makes it big, then buy the album and find that every single song is awesome.

Piracy is cheaper than $1 and you can get hundreds of songs in several minutes. Fast, easy, free. What's not to like? Other than the legal standpoint and you're not supporting the bands that you're downloading. Some people's moral compass really doesn't give a shit about that. Hell, you don't even need an account to download pirated music... When it got easy to get music that way, the music industry lost. It's too easy.
 
As a cynical, caustic and sarcastic person that does not really like people even I know that for the most part people will do the right thing. So if there is this much piracy maybe the business model is the problem?
 
CPY said:
Ok explain this to me: why the hell do we even need those stupid stinking studios? With age of the internet you can even make your own hosting and have cheap songs available worldwide. Artists should quit that greedy studios blackmailers.
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This is what the studio does:

Promotion
Instrument Costs
Studio Costs
Production Costs
Post Production Costs
Etc.

Sure a band that has made it can do without the studio, but a band that is trying to get their music out there benefits greatly from a studio. I'm not going to say that studios haven't taken advantage of artists in the past or that the studios cut isn't too high, but to say artists don't need them is silly.
 
I've received 2 extortion notices from cegtek for some shitty porn I downloaded.
since they send out millions of these per month, it appears safe to just ignore the notices and keep downloading.
 
weuntouchable said:
This is what the studio does:

Promotion
Instrument Costs
Studio Costs
Production Costs
Post Production Costs
Etc.

Sure a band that has made it can do without the studio, but a band that is trying to get their music out there benefits greatly from a studio. I'm not going to say that studios haven't taken advantage of artists in the past or that the studios cut isn't too high, but to say artists don't need them is silly.
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Coke still spends a fortune advertising their products. It rightly does not matter how well the act is doing, it costs money to keep their faces in the lime light. If nothing else I learned in business, the value of marketing.

As for recording, you are not getting a professional sound with a home system. Great for working out tracks, but eventually you will need a studio with quality equipment and capable technicians.

Back in the days when vinyl was king, a 45rpm single would send you back, 99 cents. That would be in 1960's 1970's money.
 
Ducman69 said:
I've always said that a buck a song is outrageous, and lots of people looked at me like I was smoking crack.

Your average iPod even back in the day to actually fill it with music would have cost around $18,000 IIRC.

A far better business plan is to have a subscription service where you fill up your device with as many tunes as you want (or none and stream them always), and pay $10 a year or something.
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That was why years ago I bought a zune instead of an ipod. Paid a monthly fee, got unlimited music and got to keep 10 songs per month even when I quit paying. It was more than $10 a year, but still wasn't horrible and got unlimited music.
 
Noetic said:
Back in the days when vinyl was king, a 45rpm single would send you back, 99 cents. That would be in 1960's 1970's money.
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Sure inflation isn't something to ignore. However neither are production / distribution costs. It's several orders magnitude more expensive to produce, package, transport and sell a vinyl record than it is to send an audio file over the Internet. Bandwidth is so cheap that I don't think most people realize how cheap it is.

See: http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/transit-works-costs-important.html

1Mbps/month costs less than $1/month in the US. That's 1 Mbps of data running 24/7 all month long. That's roughly 330 gigabytes of transit for less than $1 per month. How many music files fit in 330 gigabytes?
 
canna said:
Sure inflation isn't something to ignore. However neither are production / distribution costs. It's several orders magnitude more expensive to produce, package, transport and sell a vinyl record than it is to send an audio file over the Internet. Bandwidth is so cheap that I don't think most people realize how cheap it is.

See: http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/transit-works-costs-important.html

1Mbps/month costs less than $1/month in the US. That's 1 Mbps of data running 24/7 all month long. That's roughly 330 gigabytes of transit for less than $1 per month. How many music files fit in 330 gigabytes?
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That is a little misleading. that is peering cost between carriers. That doesn't include what the actual company hosting the files pays for their internet connection.
 
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