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Old 06-10-2014, 11:57 PM
soulman901 Gawd, 10.6 Years
 
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Beyond Frustrated with the Asus Z97-A

I've never encountered so many stupid problems with trying to build a new machine that runs correctly.
Long story short, I'm replacing a MSI Z87-G45 Board that continues to bluescreen on me for no apparent reason. I'll lose drives and other odd behavior with this motherboard. Thought it was Memory and RMA'd to get a matching set but that is working and tests just fine.

Just recently I purchased a Z97-A from Asus. I've used their stuff, good times.... or so I thought.
I get done installing this thing. My Specs are following
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GeForce 670GTX Gigabyte Video Card
840 Evo 250GB Samsung Drive
2 x Western Digital 1TB Blue Drives 64MB Cache
750Watt Power Supply XFX
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1

After installing the motherboard into my case and booting up, setting up the bios and installing Windows 7 I'm constantly running into Black screens at start up. My machine will start, you can hear the Windows Chime and then nothing on the ether screen. I've tried multiple re-installs of Windows. I cannot get anything to display to display at all.

I've cleared the CMOS, set everything back up. I've disabled everything on board except LAN.

The only thing I can think of at this time is that the Intel Chipset Driver is that cause of these problems. I noticed in my last install that after installing the Graphics Driver, the machine came up fine, it was when I install Intel's Chipset driver that my machine started to fail on displaying anything.

So at this point I am lost on what I should do about this. I thought about changing out the Powersupply as that could still be my problem from the Z87-G45 MSI but reading up on that board and I see people with similar problems.

If anyone has anything I may try, I would like to check it out
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:01 AM
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I noticed in my last install that after installing the Graphics Driver, the machine came up fine, it was when I install Intel's Chipset driver that my machine started to fail on displaying anything.
Try confirming that?
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:06 AM
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I'd test output from just the mobo via hdmi/dvi as well, take the GPU out of the equation.

Considering the 670 doesn't support UEFI GOP without a special BIOS loaded to the video card, you might need to adjust your motherboard settings to take account for a "legacy" GPU.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:31 AM
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This is going to sound stupid but Try disconnecting from Ethernet until you are ready to do updates. Do you happen to know what the very first thing you installed was once windows came up the first time? Sounds like you've done a few installs. If you haven't for sure already, try installing the graphics drivers before the chipset. First thing: graphics drivers. If this was a uefi problem you'd never make it to desktop. I'm pretty sure it's my second suggestion but at least in win 8 auto driver downloads can cause problems also so try disconnecting from the internet until you have all system drivers loaded. Pretty sure I can recreate your crash with an nvidia card after a fresh windows install.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:45 AM
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yeah make sure you set updates to not install, until you have the Nvidia Driver loaded ASAP, then get drivers for your mobo.

I don't think this is a mobo issue yet...
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:17 AM
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I'd test output from just the mobo via hdmi/dvi as well, take the GPU out of the equation.

Considering the 670 doesn't support UEFI GOP without a special BIOS loaded to the video card, you might need to adjust your motherboard settings to take account for a "legacy" GPU.
This. And if that doesn't work maybe try another power supply.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:37 AM
Entilza Limp Gawd, 2.3 Years
 
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There are a lot of reports about intels graphic driver acting up this way, you can check on the intel forums.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:20 AM
magoo [H]ardForum Junkie, 10.0 Years
 
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So, you installedl the board into the case before you tested the board?

I'd first take the board out of the case. Assemble the bare necessities. Install the video card or use the Intel graphic.

Then POST.

If that works, connect the hard drive, repost.
If that works, install windows offline, then drivers.....MB,chipset,video,sound.
reboot.

One step at a time until you find the culprit. I think it's a video issue.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:25 AM
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Force in BIOS the PCI-E to run PCI-E 2.0, and you will fix it.. thats a pretty weird combination of drivers, card, UEFI and windows install.
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:03 PM
soulman901 Gawd, 10.6 Years
 
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Thanks for the replies. I will try a few out suggested here. Kinda strange I would have to force PCIe 2.0 but as long as it works.
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:07 PM
soulman901 Gawd, 10.6 Years
 
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Oh and just so you know my order is always Chipset Lan Audio and then Graphics. In the last install I did graphics and then Chipset. I also had Windows 7 set so that it wouldn't grab updates at all. That was set during OS install.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:04 PM
soulman901 Gawd, 10.6 Years
 
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So here is what I have done.
Changed the Pcie slot to Gen 2. No go.
Changed the video card to the 2nd pcie slot. Set it to gen 2. No go.
Changed out the power supply to a tx750. No go.
Changed video card to 8800GT. This time it worked. Not sure it is the video
Card completely. I have an RMA request with Gigabyte.
Would a GTX 700 series work better with the board?
I've looked up on GTX 670 and it seems like the HD Audio driver and Realtek chip conflict. Although in my last build I didn't have the driver for HD Audio installed on ether. Maybe a conflict with earlier GTX 670 boards. My question would be who is running a Z97-a and what video card are you using.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's the video card at this point, either failing or compatibility issues. The conflicting audio drivers wouldn't prevent you from viewing video at any point.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:45 AM
Vaikunkaivaja n00bie, 5 Months
 
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STRANGE BEHAVIOUR

Hi,

I just installed the same MoBo with i5 4430 and Asus GTX750Ti. I was getting a bluescreen right after exiting Bios and it just flashed and restarted. Windows couldn't solve it.
I changed the PCH storage configuration in the advanced settings from ACHI(default?) to IDE and that solved my issue. I'm not sure Yours is the same issue but maybe worth a try

I'm now experiencing a startup freeze after 2 separate occasions of windows reboots after upadates. Other update was a graphics driver upaste and the other one a Win7 update. It resolves after a considerable wait with win7 install CD in the DVD drive and doesn' t occur but once...any suggestions on resolving this one?
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Old 07-06-2014, 03:15 PM
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I have a similar problem with my Z97-A. When using the 5 way optimizer in BIOS the computer boots into Windows 7 with a black screen. I can manually OC it to 4.6Ghz and it is stable. The BIOS is the latest version, 1204.The RAM I am using is listed as compatible. My video card is a Gigabyte GTX 780 SCX. I have not tested the onboard HDMI port.

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Old 07-06-2014, 07:58 PM
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Hi,

I just installed the same MoBo with i5 4430 and Asus GTX750Ti. I was getting a bluescreen right after exiting Bios and it just flashed and restarted. Windows couldn't solve it.
I changed the PCH storage configuration in the advanced settings from ACHI(default?) to IDE and that solved my issue. I'm not sure Yours is the same issue but maybe worth a try

I'm now experiencing a startup freeze after 2 separate occasions of windows reboots after upadates. Other update was a graphics driver upaste and the other one a Win7 update. It resolves after a considerable wait with win7 install CD in the DVD drive and doesn' t occur but once...any suggestions on resolving this one?
You were blue screening because you had no AHCI drivuers installed.

You must install them BEFORE you change the type.
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Old 07-10-2014, 04:19 PM
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Post Trick for AHCI From Install

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You were blue screening because you had no AHCI drivuers installed.

You must install them BEFORE you change the type.
Actually, if you have the AHCI drivers on the motherboard support DVD (and you are installing from USB), you can start the install in AHCI mode right from the get-go - I discovered this trick back when dual optical drives were my thing (which predates my discovering USB installation) - I had the Windows disc in one drive, and the motherboard support disc in the other. When I change motherboards, I'll be going to one that supports AHCI (my current motherboard does not) - hence a reinstall being required.

Windows 8+ - like previous versions - specifically allows for such installs.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:29 PM
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yes you can, however Vaikunkaivaja was running in IDE mode, so the drivers were never installed.
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:16 PM
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Blue screens with the old motherboard, now black screens with new? Sounds to me like it's not a motherboard issue at all. If you have some old memory, video card, or psu laying around, I'd suggest swapping them out.
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Old 07-12-2014, 03:27 PM
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yes you can, however Vaikunkaivaja was running in IDE mode, so the drivers were never installed.
Likely due to his wanting to keep his older install.

Tried THAT trick before as well (way back in my 2000/XP days) - found out that AHCI is way too useful to NOT install if your motherboard supports it, especially in XP and later. (It's also why I have resigned myself to a reinstall when moving from Q6600/G41->G3258/Z97.)

The question I have is should I also change the format of my USB stick for the OS? Said stick is currently MBR-formatted because my current motherboard uses a standard BIOS - however, my new motherboard supports UEFI. Should I reformat the stick in UEFI mode? (My stick formatter - Rufus - supports both modes; however, naturally, my current motherboard does not detect UEFI-formatted sticks.)
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