Microsoft Xbox One Without Kinect Bundled?

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According to Microsoft, Kinect is as much a part of the Xbox One scheme as any other integral part of the system and is there to stay for the duration.

"I have an Xbox One at home, and being able to walk in and say 'Xbox on,' and for the system to recognize me, launch and load my profile, and put my choices of content on the font page is a very magical experience. It makes you think about your relationship with technology in a slightly different way. It's personal. It makes you think, I wish more devices would do this".
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""I have an Xbox One at home, and being able to walk in and say 'Xbox on,' and for the system to recognize me, launch and load my profile, and put my choices of content on the font page is a very magical experience," "

There is already something for that. The power button.
 
I have an Xbox One at home, and being able to walk in and say 'Xbox on,' and for the system to recognize me, launch and load my porn, and then have it watch me rub one out is a very magical experience.
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Fixed. :D
 
Did he seriously just say it was a "Magical" experience? Lawsuit from Apple in 3....2.....1....
 
I have Kinect now for my kids which mostly collects dust now. I tried the voice commands and while neat, it doesn’t replace the simplicity and accuracy of a button. That plus having wife and kids talk (or scream), not even necessarily at me, while trying to talk to my 360 just simply doesn’t work.
 
Kinsaras said:
I have Kinect now for my kids which mostly collects dust now. I tried the voice commands and while neat, it doesn’t replace the simplicity and accuracy of a button. That plus having wife and kids talk (or scream), not even necessarily at me, while trying to talk to my 360 just simply doesn’t work.
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Maybe that's why they improved the hardware, so it works better. Such a radical concept. :rolleyes:
 
Doesn't the big button in the middle of the controller do this too? Doesn't it automatically sign in?

I mean, I get what MS is trying to do here with all the "talking up" about the Kinect, but in the end it still seems to be just a gimmick, and considering it's not longer needed, pretty useless.

I dunno, I will reserve ultimate judgement until I get one (if I do). For the time being though my PC is my main system and I see myself getting a PS4 wayyy before I consider an Xbox.
 
JoeUser said:
Doesn't the big button in the middle of the controller do this too? Doesn't it automatically sign in?

I mean, I get what MS is trying to do here with all the "talking up" about the Kinect, but in the end it still seems to be just a gimmick, and considering it's not longer needed, pretty useless.

I dunno, I will reserve ultimate judgement until I get one (if I do). For the time being though my PC is my main system and I see myself getting a PS4 wayyy before I consider an Xbox.
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It does in fact! Same on the PS3/Ps4. I know the voice commands are novel and all, but honestly I usually end up hitting the button in the very act of picking up the controller, rendering the voice shit completely pointless. Not to mention that voice is far more effort and far slower than just hitting the buttons in the first place.

That all said, if you like voice, well more power too you. I got what I wanted which was the choice not to hook the damn thing up in the first place. Now if we could just get MS to be so reasonable on Win 8 with offering a choice between Aero and Metro....
 
The real question is, is being able to turn your console on with your voice worth $100? It's cool and all, but I have no interest in this until MS can demonstrate games that actually make Kinect worth while. I mean games that I actually want to play, not party games and casual titles.
 
The problem with this is I still have to turn on my projector, receiver, amp etc with my universal remote.. So why wouldn't I just add the Xbox as part of the list?
 
If the guy in this article considers talking to a device to turn something on is "Magical" .. then it further only proves how Microsoft is behind. Talking to devices has been around for a while now.
 
nusse said:
If the guy in this article considers talking to a device to turn something on is "Magical" .. then it further only proves how Microsoft is behind. Talking to devices has been around for a while now.
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Yeah I was going to say, Apple's Siri and Android's equivalent are raising eyebrows at that comment.
 
JacobC1983 said:
The problem with this is I still have to turn on my projector, receiver, amp etc with my universal remote.. So why wouldn't I just add the Xbox as part of the list?
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This. Until we get to a point where something like Jarvis from Iron Man is running the whole house, voice control is pretty pointless.
 
Jobs was very right on one term "magical". Until something appears magical (e.g. sufficiently advanced technology)...it can easy be annoying and borderline useless.
 
dagamer34 said:
Maybe that's why they improved the hardware, so it works better. Such a radical concept. :rolleyes:
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Did they? Sure the thing can read your heart beat but from the videos it still looked as laggy as ever with the games. Can it distinguish one voice out of many? What’s to stop one of my sons yelling “Xbox off” to tease the other? Did they improve the spacing? Kinect on 360 requires a lot of space just to focus on you correctly.
 
It's shocking to think how far the xbox has come. Even if you just look at the first 360 and it's UI to now, it's remarkable.

If you told someone to go back to just the release day UI, they would be very put off. To say that in a few years that we wouldn't take voice/recognition for granted seems very naive.

I know people want just two buttons and a d-pad for a controller, and to blow in cartridges, but the tech world evolves.
 
Just what we need. The Kinect to collect our voice prints, images of our faces and uploaded to their database. Nothing nefarious can happen with that.
 
Kinsaras said:
Did they? Sure the thing can read your heart beat but from the videos it still looked as laggy as ever with the games. Can it distinguish one voice out of many? What’s to stop one of my sons yelling “Xbox off” to tease the other? Did they improve the spacing? Kinect on 360 requires a lot of space just to focus on you correctly.
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Here's a good video demonstrating the improvements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSefGxnThc

1) 60% wider field of view, should fit in a much smaller space
2) 1080p video feed vs. 480p with Kinect 360
3) Active IR to eliminate stray lights
4) Much improved depth camera
5) Active noise cancellation
6) Dedicated processing chips on the Kinect for improved performance
7) Active tracking of 6 people vs. 2 before
8) Enhanced skeletal tracking with increased number of joints (most importantly thumb and first index finger)
9) Physics based muscle model of tracked bodies as well as force exerted from movements
10) All in a wrapped API which developers should find easy to use

As far as one sibling just yelling at the Xbox to turn it off when someone else is playing, what stopped that kid from just walking up and pushing the power button? At the very least, with the Xbox One, it should save the state of the game such that you can immediately turn the system back on and continue playing.

Technology isn't going to stop kids from acting like kids.
 
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Kinsaras said:
Did they? Sure the thing can read your heart beat but from the videos it still looked as laggy as ever with the games. Can it distinguish one voice out of many? What’s to stop one of my sons yelling “Xbox off” to tease the other? Did they improve the spacing? Kinect on 360 requires a lot of space just to focus on you correctly.
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Your leather belts.
 
dagamer34 said:
Here's a good video demonstrating the improvements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSefGxnThc

1) 60% wider field of view, should fit in a much smaller space
2) 1080p video feed vs. 480p with Kinect 360
3) Active IR to eliminate stray lights
4) Much improved depth camera
5) Active noise cancellation
6) Dedicated processing chips on the Kinect for improved performance
7) Active tracking of 6 people vs. 2 before
8) Enhanced skeletal tracking with increased number of joints (most importantly thumb and first index finger)
9) Physics based muscle model of tracked bodies as well as force exerted from movements
10) All in a wrapped API which developers should find easy to use

As far as one sibling just yelling at the Xbox to turn it off when someone else is playing, what stopped that kid from just walking up and pushing the power button? At the very least, with the Xbox One, it should save the state of the game such that you can immediately turn the system back on and continue playing.

Technology isn't going to stop kids from acting like kids.
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Sounds better on paper. I'm just not going to be a day one adaptor to find out. That video doesn’t really show gameplay so I’m still skeptical. I need some reviews first.
 
Does this guy leave his TV on (auto HDMI on? Do TV's have that yet?)? Or does the X1 have an IR blaster to turn it on? Because otherwise, he's full of crap.
 
Grimlaking said:
I have heard it has an IR blaster.
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That's awesome if it an turn the TV on too... and I'm talking every TV with a remote control not just smart TVs of the future.

Also another thing to wonder is for me I have I think 4-6 HDMI inputs, everything I have that uses it gets an input, satellite box, bluray, video game, laptop plug, etc. Just because that object is on doesn't mean my TV switches to that input, and I doubt there's a simple command to do it, I have to open up a list of input devices, then scroll to the one I want (multiple HDMI, Component, Coax, Antenna, etc) then click a button to switch, I'm not sure an IR blaster can do that all at once. A remote control is going to be used by me in some fashion if I needed it.
 
The only thing the new Kinect is good for, in my opinion, is to scan QR codes for the free preorder stuff you get with games. That's pretty much it.
 
Spidey329 said:
Does this guy leave his TV on (auto HDMI on? Do TV's have that yet?)? Or does the X1 have an IR blaster to turn it on? Because otherwise, he's full of crap.
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I don't know, my TV has a sleep mode that activates when there's no input after 5 minutes or so. When I turn on my Xbox, the TV technically turns itself back on.
 
Improved or not, do I still have to pay extra for something that I will never use? OK then. :p
 
While I'm impressed the technology and capabilities of Kinect, I still have no plans on using it :p

I just want to sit down, get comfy, and move as little as possible with a controller in my hand.
 
I'd much rather walk into my living room, push the single power button on my Logitech Harmony remote, and watch my Xbox, TV, receiver, speaker system turn on and go to the right input/sound channel as well as set the overhead light and fan to the right level.
 
Spidey329 said:
Does this guy leave his TV on (auto HDMI on? Do TV's have that yet?)? Or does the X1 have an IR blaster to turn it on? Because otherwise, he's full of crap.
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I have a display (not a "full TV", just a "display") that I use my AppleTV with that does auto on/off based on signal.
 
Harrison sounds like a guy who would jump at the chance to live his life in a Matrix pod.
That's where the real magic happens.
:p
 
ballistic90 said:
I don't know, my TV has a sleep mode that activates when there's no input after 5 minutes or so. When I turn on my Xbox, the TV technically turns itself back on.
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HDMI CEC for years was suppose to do this. For something as simple as turning devices on and off it works pretty well. The problem has always been that many people have older stuff in their setup that doesn't support it, so they have to buy remotes. Lets be honest the IR remote should have died a long time ago and should be dead in the xbox ones cycle. The only reason I need an IR remote is for 1 device, my TV which does not support wifi based control.

Also the people saying their remotes are so great are probably forgetting how long it takes a harmony to cycle through and turn everything on. But certain parts of just about anyones setup should be controllable so long as the xbox one supports CEC, this means if you have enough supporting hardware saying xbox on could turn it all on. It shouldn't take much more work than how long it took you to get your harmony configured.
 
sfsuphysics said:
That's awesome if it an turn the TV on too... and I'm talking every TV with a remote control not just smart TVs of the future.

Also another thing to wonder is for me I have I think 4-6 HDMI inputs, everything I have that uses it gets an input, satellite box, bluray, video game, laptop plug, etc. Just because that object is on doesn't mean my TV switches to that input, and I doubt there's a simple command to do it, I have to open up a list of input devices, then scroll to the one I want (multiple HDMI, Component, Coax, Antenna, etc) then click a button to switch, I'm not sure an IR blaster can do that all at once. A remote control is going to be used by me in some fashion if I needed it.
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A smart IR blaster like a harmony can certainly switch inputs for you and be instructed not to turn off another input.
 
Man I cant understand the hate towards kinect. Yes the xbox one is expensive and I am not buying one, I am going for the ps4. I never deny the fact that kinect is one hell of a technology, specially the second gen coming with xbox one. Yes it turns on your system, but it does much much more.
 
NKD said:
Man I cant understand the hate towards kinect. Yes the xbox one is expensive and I am not buying one, I am going for the ps4. I never deny the fact that kinect is one hell of a technology, specially the second gen coming with xbox one. Yes it turns on your system, but it does much much more.
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QFT.

I'm sure that I won't will be using it much, but I'm equally sure that my kids will have a lot of fun with some casual games with the Kinect 2 tech. I don't understand the hate against something, just because it doesn't fit ones need.

I personally think that it is great the Microsoft is going full speed ahead with this tech. It might fail, sure, but if a certain technology isn't put out in a lot of hands, it will never be able to catch on or evolve in the first place.

Its a gamble for MS, but I like that some are willing to do that once in a while.
 
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