More Than 100K Want to Go to Mars and Not Return

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We ran an earlier story on the Mars One Project a while back just for the fun of it, but it seems that a whole bunch of adventuresome Earthlings are taking it seriously. To date, 100K applications have been received for this one-of-a-kind adventure and it is one-of-a-kind since none of them will ever return to Earth. Blasting off to a new planet, no chance of any outside assistance, and sure death from radiation, would you go?

"What we want to do is tell the story to the world," Lansdorp said, "when humans go to Mars, when they settle on Mars and build a new Earth, a new planet. This is one of the most exciting things that ever happened, and we want to share the story with the entire world."
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Until we're at a "Mr. Fusion" level of technology, there's no hope of making it work at all.
 
Since there is a fee to apply - how is this not a scam? The first launch is 9 years away. How many of these people will totally forgot about that they applied before the year is up - let alone 2022.
 
In the future if a company can financialy fund a terraforming of mars it will be the biggest company ever!

They should call themselves Wayland Corp. too.
 
Fursphere said:
Since there is a fee to apply - how is this not a scam? The first launch is 9 years away. How many of these people will totally forgot about that they applied before the year is up - let alone 2022.
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I think the fee is probably to discourage people who aren't ... dedicated to the idea of a one-way trip with risking ones own life. If there was no fee, I think I would have applied perhaps. I think a few million more might have as well.
 
After they where told there would be no free WiFi and no access to Facebook, 99% changed their minds.
 
Fursphere said:
Since there is a fee to apply - how is this not a scam? The first launch is 9 years away. How many of these people will totally forgot about that they applied before the year is up - let alone 2022.
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Think of it as an interplanetary "Kickstarter".
 
The UAC (Union Aerospace Corporation) will fund for this in the future.

Will visitors be able to visit Mars' other two moons, Deimos and Phobos?
 
Put me on that application too. I want off this rock. You guys can have your iPhones and Reality TV im outta here....
 
jpm100 said:
Until we're at a "Mr. Fusion" level of technology, there's no hope of making it work at all.
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Radiation is the biggest problem with living on Mars. Its 1000x what Earth is at Sea Level. Other problems can be dealt with , energy isn't a big deal , its more about the fact that the US Government doesn't have a competition going on for bragging rights.

If China announced tomorrow that it was going to land humans on Mars in the next 5 years , Congress would approve a massive budget increase for NASA and make them land before the Chinese do. But since landing on Mars doesn't equal A) Tons of weapons B) Control over oil none of the bought and paid for politicians give a fuck about getting there or pioneering space for that matter.

Private industry is going to land humans on Mars first this time around. Frankly all of our future space needs will be met by private industry.
 
Megalith said:
Is there even Internet on Mars.
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Well between 8 and 44 minutes depending on the time during the year. So a 480,000 to 2,700,000 ms delay at about an average data rate of 0.01mbps from the older equipment to around 6mbps from the sats.

That would be your average "internet" speed on Mars using Earth as a relay.
 
Godmachine said:
Well between 8 and 44 minutes depending on the time during the year. So a 480,000 to 2,700,000 ms delay at about an average data rate of 0.01mbps from the older equipment to around 6mbps from the sats.

That would be your average "internet" speed on Mars using Earth as a relay.
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hopefully, given 9 years away, they might be able to sneakerware a few 200TB drives with entertainment, porn, tv shows, movies, all of wikipedia, just for mankind data repository sake.

also, i personally dont think we should go until we have genetically engineered bacteria to terraform the planet. but maybe deep subterranean near icecaps might work. martian atmosphere is less than 1 percent the pressure of earth's and is toxic to human life. :(
 
Krenum said:
Put me on that application too. I want off this rock. You guys can have your iPhones and Reality TV im outta here....
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Dont worry humans on Earth will find a way to muck Mars up in a big way. Who knows maybe Wallstreet will open a Mars stock exchange and just look at all that land to be hand.

Mars Backed Securities
 
Scythe5 said:
Hmmm. I wonder if we can fuck up Mars in less than 200 years?
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With how far we've come with technology, we'd be able to do it in 20 :D

Anyway, the only appeal to Mars (imo) is that there's no people there. Add the people and it just becomes a red Earth.
 
Ocean said:
hopefully, given 9 years away, they might be able to sneakerware a few 200TB drives with entertainment, porn, tv shows, movies, all of wikipedia, just for mankind data repository sake.

also, i personally dont think we should go until we have genetically engineered bacteria to terraform the planet. but maybe deep subterranean near icecaps might work. martian atmosphere is less than 1 percent the pressure of earth's and is toxic to human life. :(
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Terraforming is a total possibility but it would take probably a thousand years or so to do it right. We could nuke the poles and release millions of tons of captured carbon into the atmosphere but that could go badly in the long run. The problem with terraforming is that you need a pretty a few vital things , one of which is a magnetic field. Even with an atmosphere similar to ours , Mars would lose so much of it per year from the solar winds peeling it off that its almost pointless to try.

If we could find a way to survive the deep cold of Titan , that would make a much better home to terraform. It has everything we need and then some PLUS a dense atmosphere (denser than our own) so that would save us a lot of very difficult steps. The only issue is Saturn's magnetic field is a beast ..

I do not think we'll be doing terraforming anytime soon.

We would either have to evolve to deal with it in the end. People would have to grow up on Mars that would properly evolved to the required acclimation needed.
 
Godmachine said:
Terraforming is a total possibility but it would take probably a thousand years or so to do it right. We could nuke the poles and release millions of tons of captured carbon into the atmosphere but that could go badly in the long run. The problem with terraforming is that you need a pretty a few vital things , one of which is a magnetic field. Even with an atmosphere similar to ours , Mars would lose so much of it per year from the solar winds peeling it off that its almost pointless to try.

If we could find a way to survive the deep cold of Titan , that would make a much better home to terraform. It has everything we need and then some PLUS a dense atmosphere (denser than our own) so that would save us a lot of very difficult steps. The only issue is Saturn's magnetic field is a beast ..

I do not think we'll be doing terraforming anytime soon.

We would either have to evolve to deal with it in the end. People would have to grow up on Mars that would properly evolved to the required acclimation needed.
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We would be better off crashing some ice asteroids into Mars, no radioactive fallout and they'll add heat and water at the same time.
 
The radiation is due to no real atmosphere, correct? So if we do "terraform" the planet, would that not give the planet an atmosphere that will reflect the radiation from the sun?
 
Somewhat, but as was said a few posts earlier the lack of gravity would stop the atmosphere hanging around. So you either need to keep creating it (well it solves the greenhouse gas problem I guess) or increase the gravity so that it stays around.

All told it's probably more practical to put people in biospheres like just about every sci-fi show ever. However then you're back to managing radiation. Can the raw materials there be processed into something that is sufficiently resilient (as we won't be shipping materials there it has to be some sort of mining / 3d printing contraption that builds stuff for us)

One day someone will come up with an idea and the whole world will go "oh yeah" and we'll look back at our ignorance and laugh.

Or we could take the conspiracy view and say that when the oil companies stop 'finding' practical reserves of oil then we'll magically have a step change in space capability because they'll want to put some drills (proverbial, more like nets) on Titan.
 
let's live inside Mars... we need to select for people who have adaptation for living without natural light and who excel at never leaving confinement. People would find it way more entertaining to send prisoners up there.
 
RigmoroleMotorCo said:
let's live inside Mars... we need to select for people who have adaptation for living without natural light and who excel at never leaving confinement. People would find it way more entertaining to send prisoners up there.
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...or 90% of our user base. :D
 
And you're right the magnetism is more important to the stripping.


Fuck it. It's hard. I hated physics lol, been trying to relearn it all and am failing miserably.
 
Krenum said:
Put me on that application too. I want off this rock. You guys can have your iPhones and Reality TV im outta here....
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Except that you wouldn't be getting away from it. In fact, you'd be part of a reality TV series if you RTFA.

...For the first crew, the Mars One mission will cost $6 billion, Lansdorp said. The idea is for it to be funded by sponsors and media that will pay for broadcasting rights of shows and movies documenting everything from the astronauts' training on Earth to their deployment and colonization of Mars....
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Sorry to crush that dream of escaping...
 
Fursphere said:
Since there is a fee to apply - how is this not a scam? The first launch is 9 years away. How many of these people will totally forgot about that they applied before the year is up - let alone 2022.
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Successful applicants get shipped off on acceptance to be trained for 8 years. Read the article it is not a bad plan and the fee is there to prevent mass sign up for shits and giggles. But the reality of living in a more or less enclosed space with the same 4 people for 1 year then 4 more. Likely they are accepting ages 18-30 and 30 is pushing it likely fit people with stable mental traits and people with no family is probably preferred. There will probably be scheduled breeding if they want to make the colony sustainable each female will have as many children as possible and with as many partners as possible.

The reality is this will either fail or if they do go I would say the first 4 will die in maybe a month or at most 4-6 months. Assuming any survive the trip and the first couple days on mars water.
 
I feel like the suicide rate is gonna be pretty high for this, you don't realize what you have until it's gone is how the saying goes right?

I honestly don't think the people signing up are really thinking this through 100%, but I'll be happy if I'm proven wrong and it's a success.
 
Matthew Kane said:
The UAC (Union Aerospace Corporation) will fund for this in the future.

Will visitors be able to visit Mars' other two moons, Deimos and Phobos?
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UAC
Changing the face of mars

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I couldn't find the proper framed photo on Doom 3 walls :(

The next big war is no doubt going to be about Mars. We're yet to fight about the Moon, though
 
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"Making progress, Marine? Your journey is futile. You will die, and your soul will be mine!"
― Malcolm Betruger
 
"Certain death from radiation."

Everyone faces certain death. If your choice is 40 meh years on earth or a couple of holyshitthisisamazing years on Mars, there will not be a shortage of folks looking for the Mars option.

Although honestly, I think once you get to Mars it would get boring in a real hurry. "Oh, red rocks and dust again today." One of the weird things I noticed travelling around the world is that every place is a combination of rocks, water, and plants. No place is really that different, and even other planets are just a bunch of the same rocks we have here. Plus side, you appreciate your own little configuration of rocks and plants at home a bit more, because the feeling of 'I want something more exotic" dies down a little.
 
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