CES 2013: Best In Show

Gotta love how they mention the Razer's Edge as best game console.

$1000 price tag
Is it a tablet or a game console? It's Neither!

But yea, they had a best in everything. Best in utensils? Now it feels like an infomercial.
 
That 20" tablet looks awesome ... especially with a 4K screen ... it would be out of the price range of us normal folks ... but still awesome :D
 
I really want to like the Razer Edge, but it's just not polished enough... let's compare with Helix:

+NV640m LE
-battery life
-screen res
-Wacom digitizer
-Weight
=Price

Helix is a far better realized product and I am heavily leaning to Helix (yes, $1500 in all). I seriously wonder why the insistence of sticking the gpu into the tablet itself when eGPU put into a dock has already been done and would've solved most of the issues that you get with Edge.
 
What about those stupid forks that keep tracking how many bites you take and report that to some site hahaha. In a few years they're going to sample your food, too. Fatties want to be fatties but oh well...

I am waiting for those tactile touchscreens. Nothing but talk for the past few years. Looks like they're coming for real this year. Nice.
 
Reimu said:
I really want to like the Razer Edge, but it's just not polished enough...
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If Intel delivers on performance claims they're making about Haswell, the dGPUs in the Razer Edge and the Helix will be outclassed by iGPUs sometime this coming summer. That should lead to thinner, lighter, longer-lasting tablets with equivalent or better performance (supposedly Haswell is competitive with a 650M-class nVidia part) well before the end of this year. As interesting as current gaming tablets might be, I'm kinda worried that their just not worth grabbing until after finding out what shipping Haswell parts can do.

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6600/...rformance-compared-to-nvidias-geforce-gt-650m
 
i saw that 4k 20 inch tablet at ces. The flash digital magazine on it sure was running choppy. It might be great for some project planners. However i wish windows tablets include a mobile gpu chip from nvidia or amd.
 
kbrickley said:
hmmmm ... sounds like GPU Viagra :p
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Hey, that's the pill that helps older men keep younger women interested in maintaining a relationship long enough for the woman to inherit the estate, right? Sure, Haswell is pretty much identical in that it keeps people interested enough in tablets, but it's more for Intel to get the estate and not the people buying the tablets. ;)
 
Sigh.

Ultimately, I wish to see eGPU finally getting a foothold. Having eGPU inside the keyboard dock or as a ViDock esque powered toaster would be the most sensible answer to getting graphical performance in a limited enclosure.

I am highly anticipating Haswell actually. Unfortunately I can't exactly hold out since I need a real x86 tablet PC for productivity...
 
Let's see an Ultra HD OLED set with no date of production or release. The Razer's Edge gaming tablet that is massively overpriced and will end up another failure for Razer. A 4K 20-inch tablet with no date of production or release.

So basically OLED which is just starting to trickle onto the market but at a hugely inflated price and 4k sets and tablets which probably won't truly show up for about 2 years and it'll take years more for content to properly support it. I get that CES is a trade show and truly a den of prototypes and some fully set gear that will release soon but we've been seeing some of this tech at CES promising production soon only to see it show up at the next CES and the next one ..and the next one.

Is anyone else like me and they just don't give two shits about CES anymore? I would prefer release dates that actually are real ones and production dates that are not so vague. Seeing the future constantly repeat its-self each year kinda gets old. The only blessing truly at this CES was the lack of 3D being forced down our throats , I think as a whole the industry (minus Hollywood) has finally acknowledged that 3D in its current form is simply too primitive for practical home usage.
 
I like the Polk Woodbuorne system and spooner earbuds. They would be great in my backpack so my current ones stop getting all twisted up. The new TV's are cool and everything but I won't be buying any of that stuff for 3-5 years probably due to prices and lack of 4K content.
 
daglesj said:
The tablet gets slagged off here for not having the actual power to move anything on screen.

http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/81696/the-dumbest-products-of-ces-2013-210723
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It might be a little early for 4K tablets ... I think they probably need at least one more generation of CPUs and probably one more of GPUs ... since the 4K tablets and laptops won't be cheap for a long time NVidia should see if they can do a 690 type design for laptops/tablets (dual 6xx or dual 7xx graphics chips on one die) ... that should be able to handle 4K displays in that form factor (if they can keep the heat down) :cool:
 
Reimu said:
Sigh.

Ultimately, I wish to see eGPU finally getting a foothold. Having eGPU inside the keyboard dock or as a ViDock esque powered toaster would be the most sensible answer to getting graphical performance in a limited enclosure.

I am highly anticipating Haswell actually. Unfortunately I can't exactly hold out since I need a real x86 tablet PC for productivity...
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I think the eGPU would be a great idea, but there's probably not much economic reason for a business to develop a dock that integrates that kind of hardware for both cost and docking port interface complexities. Intel graphics continue to be good enough for most people's expectations so there's not a very compelling reason to create that sort of technology. I think Sony is the only company that bothered with an external GPU in recent times with their Vaio Z. They did that over a thunderbolt port and included a ROM drive in the same casing.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/sony-vaio-z-puts-graphics-card-in-thunderbolt-connected-box/

I dunno if it sold well, but I haven't heard anything about further development of that kinda technology.
 
Reimu said:
Sigh.

Ultimately, I wish to see eGPU finally getting a foothold. Having eGPU inside the keyboard dock or as a ViDock esque powered toaster would be the most sensible answer to getting graphical performance in a limited enclosure.

I am highly anticipating Haswell actually. Unfortunately I can't exactly hold out since I need a real x86 tablet PC for productivity...
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But then you jsut have 2 pieces. I run into this problem with my HTPC DVR. The case (Antec 310-150) only holds 2.5" drives. So i have to face the issue of living with 2.5" drives maxing out at 1 TB, getting a new case or adding an external HDD.

Hardware is cheap enough now that its easier to buy discrete, integrated pieces versus stringing a bunch of little boxes together. You would be better off building a dedicated gaming machine rather then trying to work out an eGPU, IMHO.
 
Lenovo laptop looks like a cross between an HP, and a Macbook, I hope it has the build of the Macbook, but the performance of something that is neither of these.
 
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