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A smartphone running Ubuntu definitely sounds interesting but I'd have to see it in action first. What do you think?

Ubuntu OS, long a favorite open-source platform for computing, is getting ready to move to the smaller smartphone screen. Ubuntu-run smartphones will using the same drivers asAndroid smartphones, a boon to developers, but will also run well on entry-level smartphones, the organization says. Ubuntu for phones eschews Java in favor of native code.
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It's no Meego, but it might be the least douchy thing Shuttleworth has ever done. This locked down hardware shit has gone far enough. I want root on all my computers, that and drivers.
 
nOrVow said:
Here ya go Steve; straight from the man himself. :) Might wanna update the OP for that.
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Is it just me or are Shuttleworth's eyes bloodshot in that video?

"First platform", my butt Mr. Shuttleworth. Everyone else beat you by a mile.
 
unholythree said:
It's no Meego, but it might be the least douchy thing Shuttleworth has ever done. This locked down hardware shit has gone far enough. I want root on all my computers, that and drivers.
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+1.... locked down hardware and closed drivers really sucks, especially if cell phones really are the future of PCs....
 
brucedeluxe169 said:
+1.... locked down hardware and closed drivers really sucks, especially if cell phones really are the future of PCs....
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Everyone's got their own closed ecosystem and it's incredibly annoying, so this would be a breath of fresh air. And, yep, we're all inching closer towards this becoming a reality:

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For a vast majority of people, a cell phone bought in 2014 is going to be enough for essentially everything they use a PC for. Desktops will still exist for some folks, but it's far more convenient to carry around a single device that can store everything you've got (cloud or local) and be all things to (nearly) all people. It's like Batman's utility belt except with pornography.
 
pelo said:
Everyone's got their own closed ecosystem and it's incredibly annoying, so this would be a breath of fresh air. And, yep, we're all inching closer towards this becoming a reality:

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For a vast majority of people, a cell phone bought in 2014 is going to be enough for essentially everything they use a PC for. Desktops will still exist for some folks, but it's far more convenient to carry around a single device that can store everything you've got (cloud or local) and be all things to (nearly) all people. It's like Batman's utility belt except with pornography.
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Storage forces a dock to the scenario or at least a NAS appliance.
 
jpm100 said:
Storage forces a dock to the scenario or at least a NAS appliance.
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Not for everyone. I can pretty much store everything I care about and a bunch of junk I might need on a 32 GB microSD card. In fact, the stuff that really is important to me fits in less than 2 GB. For me, a phone with a dock would be good enough, though since I don't like paying for cell service, I'd prefer to do it with a wifi only version.
 
SkribbelKat said:
Not for everyone. I can pretty much store everything I care about and a bunch of junk I might need on a 32 GB microSD card. In fact, the stuff that really is important to me fits in less than 2 GB. For me, a phone with a dock would be good enough, though since I don't like paying for cell service, I'd prefer to do it with a wifi only version.
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I've got terabytes of data. I care about it all. Damn Skribbel...get a little less [H] why don't you!!! :rolleyes:
 
pelo said:
Everyone's got their own closed ecosystem and it's incredibly annoying, so this would be a breath of fresh air. And, yep, we're all inching closer towards this becoming a reality:
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How do you do stuff on the screen? Use the phone,or is that a touch screen? Needs more mouse otherwise it's pretty stupid and would be a pain to use. :p
 
JoeUser said:
I've got terabytes of data. I care about it all. Damn Skribbel...get a little less [H] why don't you!!! :rolleyes:
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Seriously, Skribbels is starting oftforum and oftocp...

DeathPrincess said:
How do you do stuff on the screen? Use the phone,or is that a touch screen? Needs more mouse otherwise it's pretty stupid and would be a pain to use. :p
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Negative ghost rider, the pattern is full. No thank you, I need my 3 monitors, mouse keyboard, hourse power, and big pipe connection.
 
DeathPrincess said:
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Originally Posted by pelo

Everyone's got their own closed ecosystem and it's incredibly annoying, so this would be a breath of fresh air. And, yep, we're all inching closer towards this becoming a reality:

How do you do stuff on the screen? Use the phone,or is that a touch screen? Needs more mouse otherwise it's pretty stupid and would be a pain to use.
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The keyboard and mouse are blue toothed in our use a usb dongle.


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That would be pretty nice to run my typical day to day stuff purely from a phone. Though my actual work I need as fast of a computer as possible. I wonder when that will become small enough to fit on something smaller than a phone. That with some type of private cloud with a really fast connection sounds like the future.
 
travanx said:
That would be pretty nice to run my typical day to day stuff purely from a phone. Though my actual work I need as fast of a computer as possible. I wonder when that will become small enough to fit on something smaller than a phone. That with some type of private cloud with a really fast connection sounds like the future.
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Quit using the word "cloud".
 
Actually, something like that and I could probably ditch my laptop. When working from home, I'm usually RDP'd into a desktop sitting at the office anyways or using a virtual machine via VMWare View to do my work. As long as I can RDP in and let the remote system do all the actual processing/work, then my needs from the home connection are very minimal (RDP access and 2-3 screens).
 
I'm greatly in favor of smartphones built on open platforms that respect the user's desires and privacy, so Linux based smartphones are of course a great idea. I'm still using my old N900! However, after the privacy/security unfriendly changes that were made in Ubuntu 12.10, I'm skeptical about their additional platforms. I don't want to see the awesome quality and power of Linux polluted by being bent to serve the advertising wishes of fucking Shuttleworth and whatever Google and Amazon are paying him to mine data and provide referrals. On a phone, I am even more skeptical that Ubuntu won't be providing a lot of unlisted defaults that are meant to bolster advertising/referral/data mining dollar. I'd feel better regarding a Linux Mint phone, but I have to say that even with this I'd much rather have Ubuntu on the phone than a bunch of walled gardens.

Its also worth keeping an eye on FirefoxOS. Firefox, and for that matter, most Mozilla products, are by far amongst the best both mainstream-and-guru usable, customizable, Free and Open Source, privacy and security respecting software around for their given tasks. Having a FirefoxOS that turns lower end feature and smartphones into true smartphones while retaining privacy and usability is awesome, as well as a fitting alternative to Android and other options.
 
will i have to bust my balls typing paragraphs of commands into the terminal window on a pea-sized keyboard just to view my text messages?
 
Salavat23 said:
will i have to bust my balls typing paragraphs of commands into the terminal window on a pea-sized keyboard just to view my text messages?
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Noo this is Noobuntu! Even a guy named Mr. Falcon can use that!

But actually yes, and the only browser will be Lynx.
 
Here's what will happen. Stallman well find a way to bash it, "they are stealing or freedom by not calling it the gnu phone!" The woke Linux community well be split into groups of Stallman supporters and the rest of us that are not insane. The rest of the world continues to look at Linux and the ubuntu phone as something for crazies and nerds and the world will keep spinning.

I would like one but the problem any new upstart is going to face is like myself people are so invested in the platforms they won't switch. They need to come up with a compelling reason to switch.
 
I think in a few years this could be practical.

Honestly, If there was a sticky/easy way to run wow in unbuntu, I could switch to linux now.
What do I really use a computer anymore for right now. Web browser, Flash, Utube, Wow, Porn (web browser)

Yes I might be able to get away with it with WINE but, show me a idiot proof easy way to run wow on ubuntu with no issues and I am sold.

Do I think phones/computers might be leaving Windows and going the linux route in a few years you bet!
 
I'd like to know what people of Hard are using their computers now that couldn't do it on a linux based system, or a dual boot type system now. I am lazy so I stick with Windows 7 but, it seems every year that linux gets more attractive. If major software people started writting for linux I could see this change happening sooner then people might be comfortable. and yes I do install Ubuntu every so often to see what they are offtering
 
Xaeos said:
I'm greatly in favor of smartphones built on open platforms that respect the user's desires and privacy, so Linux based smartphones are of course a great idea. I'm still using my old N900! However, after the privacy/security unfriendly changes that were made in Ubuntu 12.10...
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It's refreshing to hear that from someone who actually hosts their own web server, doesn't use any Google service, doesn't use Bing or many Microsoft services, avoids popular web browsers, and avoids Amazon like the plague.

Oh? What's that? You mean you're only blaming Ubuntu yet still using all of the above?

Well then...
 
Darrell262 said:
I'd like to know what people of Hard are using their computers now that couldn't do it on a linux based system, or a dual boot type system now. I am lazy so I stick with Windows 7 but, it seems every year that linux gets more attractive. If major software people started writting for linux I could see this change happening sooner then people might be comfortable. and yes I do install Ubuntu every so often to see what they are offtering
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I dual booted for years but it's more hassle than its worth. It got to the point where I didn't boot Linux in weeks ago I just stick to Windows. With steam going to Linux we'll see if that's the push needed to get others in board but until then I'm stuck.
 
For me, Steam is a good start, I own many games from steam I bought but never play(thanks wow you f'ker) if I do switch on my main box (yes I am old school watercooled over clocked) then thats it I stick with it and become like every other linux user, the old grumpy better then tho guy who says anything not linux based etc sucks

Hey they are making video drivers for Linux now. Steam.... I'll switch when I am so old I quit wow, or they make a linux clone of wow.
 
pelo said:
Everyone's got their own closed ecosystem and it's incredibly annoying, so this would be a breath of fresh air. And, yep, we're all inching closer towards this becoming a reality:

ubuntu20for20android-11324978.jpg.jpeg


For a vast majority of people, a cell phone bought in 2014 is going to be enough for essentially everything they use a PC for. Desktops will still exist for some folks, but it's far more convenient to carry around a single device that can store everything you've got (cloud or local) and be all things to (nearly) all people. It's like Batman's utility belt except with pornography.
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Well, that is a function of Ubuntu for phones that was announced. If you plug a monitor, keyboard and mouse into it, you'll get the full desktop experience.
 
ballistic90 said:
Well, that is a function of Ubuntu for phones that was announced. If you plug a monitor, keyboard and mouse into it, you'll get the full desktop experience.
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That was actually announced quite a while back and was supposed to start shipping on android phones and never did.
 
Steve said:
A smartphone running Ubuntu definitely sounds interesting but I'd have to see it in action first. What do you think?
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Steve, after some reading it looks very much like the phones are NOT "running Ubuntu" as an OS...it looks very much like they just created yet another GUI launcher that runs on top of Android....in fact "Ubuntu for phones" requires Android 2.3+ to run on top of. So what we have here is yet another launcher on the Play Store with a few included extra libraries.
 
Disposed said:
That was actually announced quite a while back and was supposed to start shipping on android phones and never did.
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There are a few phones that do that, but they have their own desktop like OS that has little support. The Motorola Atrix and Atrix 2 had a laptop and desktop dock that did that, but the OS you had wasn't that well designed.

A full desktop Ubuntu would be a different matter, as long as the software was still compatible.
 
TheWeazmeister said:
Seriously, Skribbels is starting oftforum and oftocp...



Negative ghost rider, the pattern is full. No thank you, I need my 3 monitors, mouse keyboard, hourse power, and big pipe connection.
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I want to see how Excel spreadsheets will work on cell phones LOL, especially big massive spreadsheets. Or weather forecasts or nuclear simulations
 
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