WikiLeaks Wins Case Against VISA Iceland

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WikiLeaks won a victory over censorship this week, albeit a small one. The courts in Iceland sided with WikiLeaks in a suit against VISA Iceland, requiring the company to reopen the donations to WikiLeaks with 14 days or face daily fines for failure to comply. VISA plans to appeal the decision.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said "This is a significant victory against Washington's attempt to silence WikiLeaks. We will not be silenced. Economic censorship is censorship. It is wrong”.
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Some might say that that would make the likes of USA, Russia & China very wrong. Of course, if you make up the law on what is "classified" or "stolen", then you can never be wrong.:D
 
Daemas,

Don't bother man, he made up his mind a long time ago to stay ignorant. Even though you're right, it'll just make him more opinionated of you is all. It's like a cartographer trying to reason with a flat earther, you'll never win brother :(.
 
Hope this ruling holds up. We don't need banksters acting as political enforcers against persons and entities that have broken no laws. And Wikileaks (popular myth in the US notwithstanding) apparently broke no laws in this case.
 
Eisenblut said:
Possession of stolen classified information is wrong also.
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Actually...it isn't. Stealing it may be, but there's actually no law against possessing it. Really. What you ought to be concerned with is knowing what your government is doing in your name, not the fact that someone is helping you to be able to know.
 
The Ox said:
Actually...it isn't. Stealing it may be, but there's actually no law against possessing it.
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Are you for reals? Depending on the country, it's highly illegal to possess classified information if you are not authorized to possess it.
 
"I can support Al-Qaeda, the Ku Klux Klan, buy weapons and drugs and all kinds of porn with my Visa card. There is nobody investigating this, but I cannot support a human rights organisation which is fighting for freedom of expression," Sigurvinsson said.
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you can also have a hard time using your CC at a medical marijuana dispensary. there are a growing number of them being blocked by visa and banks.
 
The Ox said:
Actually...it isn't. Stealing it may be, but there's actually no law against possessing it. Really. What you ought to be concerned with is knowing what your government is doing in your name, not the fact that someone is helping you to be able to know.
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Funny, most countries carry serious sentences for possessing classified information (some of them even carry the death penalty for that kind of crime), I kind of don't care what Britain (my home country) or America is doing in the name of freedom or my name ignorance is bliss, I'll read about the vague details in an ex-navy seals, or SAS book soon I'm sure.

I'm also against this jerk off date rape arse hole, claiming to be some sort of champion for the truth, all he is doing is getting people killed by blowing their cover. The bank stuff I don't really care, we already know banks are crooks anyway, but then keeping your money under the mattress isn't very sensible either.
 
Eisenblut said:
Possession of stolen classified information is wrong also.
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Distributing information that should not have been classified in the first place is defense of freedom. It is one of the most patriotic, the most "American" things a person could do. At least, it is "American" in the sense of the values that our Founding Fathers had, which seems to be nearly lost to corporate fascism today.
 
Outamyhead said:
Funny, most countries carry serious sentences for possessing classified information (some of them even carry the death penalty for that kind of crime)..
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How about war profiteering and Treason of the types committed by George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and their partners in crime?

Lying to Americans to start an illegal and unethical war is far worse than making government more transparent, as it SHOULD have been in the first place - might have stopped some of the terrible things our government has done over the past few decades.

The identity of "secret agents" is about the ONLY thing besides nuclear missle launch codes that actually should be classified, IMO. The bullshit wholesale abuse of the classification system did not start with Bush, I'm sure, and I'm also sure it continues today. PUBLIC servants should have no secrets other than their private home lives.
 
at least in the US, the laws primary apply to people with security clearances. Those people are responsible for keeping classified material from regular people.

Regular people, with no clearance, generally have no responsibility to maintain secrecy of classified stuff.

Outamyhead said:
Funny, most countries carry serious sentences for possessing classified information (some of them even carry the death penalty for that kind of crime), I kind of don't care what Britain (my home country) or America is doing in the name of freedom or my name ignorance is bliss, I'll read about the vague details in an ex-navy seals, or SAS book soon I'm sure.

I'm also against this jerk off date rape arse hole, claiming to be some sort of champion for the truth, all he is doing is getting people killed by blowing their cover. The bank stuff I don't really care, we already know banks are crooks anyway, but then keeping your money under the mattress isn't very sensible either.
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Being pissed at and taking action against wiki is the act of a desperate and already defeated foe.

The cat is out of the bag.

A society is judged by how they handle it from here. So far the US is getting an A+ on the China scale of how to handle the aftermath. Bra-fucking-vo.

Rather than embrace the release and deal with the embarrassment of the shameful details that have been released, like a wounded cornered animal, they will further disgrace themselves trying to coverup and distract from their own crimes and malfeasance.

Whether it is the KBG/FSB-like hit job on Assange, or the disgraceful, illegal, obscene treatment of Manning. All the US Government cocksuckers have accomplished is to assure everyone believes the worst of what is in the leaks, because clearly they are blatantly continuing to engage in the very same shameful behaviors in full view of the world. :rolleyes:
 
xX_Jack_Carver_Xx said:
How do you know that this Jullian Assange / Wikileaks isn't an inside job by all the governments to purposely make the governments look bad so that a single world order government behind all these governments could come out as a brand new government with a convincing and good reputation for replacing all the governments of the world to establish a New World Order? :D

*tinfoil hat off*
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That data shouldn't have got out, I'm just glad people know about how bad the security was so it can be addressed.
 
Just curious what do you guys think is the chance that the same thing will happen in the United States? We can all sit here and celebrate about the 5 million Icelanders who can now donate to Wikileaks using Visa but what about the 310 million Americans who can't donate to Wikileaks because of politicians like Joe Lieberman who want Wikileaks taken offline. When American companies like Visa and Western Union stopped doing transactions sending money to Wikileaks 95% of the money Wikileaks was receiving dried up. What about that?
 
Whatsisname said:
at least in the US, the laws primary apply to people with security clearances. Those people are responsible for keeping classified material from regular people.

Regular people, with no clearance, generally have no responsibility to maintain secrecy of classified stuff.
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This. You know when they say "I can tell you but then I'll have to kill you." they don't mean because you're not supposed to know but because they're not supposed to tell you.
 
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