European Mobile Operator to Charge Extra for VoIP

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It looks like all bytes are not considered equal according to TeliaSonera, Europe’s fifth largest communications service. TeliaSonera will soon be charging a surcharge on VoIP services traversing across its network. The surcharge will affect 157 million subscribers across Europe.

Disregarding the net neutrality tenet of no data being more equal than others, the carrier will first introduce the new charges in Spain on its Yoigo network in Q2 2012, before bringing them to the Telia network in Sweden in the following months.
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Something I don't understand from the article:

He said: “If all our customers suddenly decided to switch over to making internet calls, and we charged them only for the data traffic usage, we would lose about 70% of our revenue.”
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That wouldn't make any sense in the US as you have to by both voice and data plans with smart phones and it seem that it would make more sense you use voice minutes instead of data bandwidth.
 
heatlesssun said:
Something I don't understand from the article:



That wouldn't make any sense in the US as you have to by both voice and data plans with smart phones and it seem that it would make more sense you use voice minutes instead of data bandwidth.
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How about using a tablet only (sort of unlimited but throttled) plan sim card inside a phone or even a tablet with voip software. Suddenly there is no need for that second voice or voice+data plan for the telephone.
 
How about they are separate products.

If we have reached a point technologically where voice is equiv to data, then it's time for the telecoms and data providers to figure out what they DO need to be charging to make the internet work with one "unlimited" data model.

Enough is enough. The net is not what it was twenty years ago, and neither is voice communication. The telephone is no longer rocket science nor anything special.
 
Hopefully the European Union or whatever they have over there will go after them for this. This definitely falls under net neutrality.
 
so they are packet sniffing..... could be illegal as well...

VOIP or other data is all the same 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 what ever.....they are likely losing buisness somewhere and this is how they make up for it, same as how ISP's in the U.S were considering fee's / taxes on media content like youtube and netflix a while back.. to make up for their lost cable revenues
 
MrGuvernment said:
so they are packet sniffing..... could be illegal as well...

VOIP or other data is all the same 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 what ever.....they are likely losing buisness somewhere and this is how they make up for it, same as how ISP's in the U.S were considering fee's / taxes on media content like youtube and netflix a while back.. to make up for their lost cable revenues
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Yes it's all 1's and 0's. But to an ISP, HTML traffic weighs less, so less mules are needed to carry the data through the pipes.
Netflix and Youtube's data weighs more, so more mules are needed.

Torrent's smells bad and irritates mules, so oxen's are needed as they are not affected by those data types. Oxen's costs more.

That is how they can charge more for one data type than the other.
 
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