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Old 03-19-2012, 11:26 AM
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Intel Launching Ivy Bridge Desktop Processors This Week?

According to TechARP's anonymous sources, Intel will launch its new Ivy Bridge desktop processors this Friday with the actual release date coming April 29th.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:49 AM
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I can't see them limiting the GPU side a lot between the i5-3570 & i5-3570K like that chart shows. Considering current Sandy Bridge parts use the HD Graphics 3000 naming scheme, having the multiplier-locked version with "HD Graphics 2500" seems out of place.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:10 PM
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I'm interested to see if this is true. I've been holding off on upgrading my Core 2 Quad Q9550 for Ivy Bridge. Up until very recently I've not seen any reason to upgrade, but with games like Skyrim and SWTOR, I have been CPU bottlenecked so it's time to move on.

I'm sure I'd be quite happy with the i5-3570's performance (I have an i5-2500 development machine at work that feels really quick), but I wonder if one of the i7s would be worth the extra cost just to remain usable for longer. The Q9550 has been "good enough" for a lot longer than any previous generation of CPU I've owned, and I'd be willing to pay extra if I could get an Ivy Bridge CPU that would remain usable for 4 years.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:11 PM
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I'm excited for some hot Ivy Bridge action. I've been very pleased with my first gen i7 920 and its sweet overclocking ability.

Ivy Bridge paired with the upcoming Kepler nvidia chipset should be a sweet upgrade.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:22 PM
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I'm interested to see if this is true. I've been holding off on upgrading my Core 2 Quad Q9550 for Ivy Bridge. Up until very recently I've not seen any reason to upgrade, but with games like Skyrim and SWTOR, I have been CPU bottlenecked so it's time to move on.

I'm sure I'd be quite happy with the i5-3570's performance (I have an i5-2500 development machine at work that feels really quick), but I wonder if one of the i7s would be worth the extra cost just to remain usable for longer. The Q9550 has been "good enough" for a lot longer than any previous generation of CPU I've owned, and I'd be willing to pay extra if I could get an Ivy Bridge CPU that would remain usable for 4 years.
I hadn't though about it that way until I read your post, but damn my q9650 has been with me a while now. I also skipped sandybridge and have been waiting on ivybridge for about the past 6 months or so now that it's finally starting to show its age in new games. Personally I'll be after an i7-3770k.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:36 PM
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I can't see them limiting the GPU side a lot between the i5-3570 & i5-3570K like that chart shows. Considering current Sandy Bridge parts use the HD Graphics 3000 naming scheme, having the multiplier-locked version with "HD Graphics 2500" seems out of place.
It's consistent with the previous generation, where almost all multiplier-locked i5 parts used HD 2000 graphics.

Some exceptions included the Core i5-2405S (intended to give it another selling point over the i5 2400S and i3 2100T).

There are models of the i3 with HD 3000 graphics, but those parts will not be refreshed until later in the year.

My thoughts about going for HT: I don't know if this will hold water, but from the Anandtech preview it looked like they managed to tweak something in the Hyperthreading implementation of Ivy Bridge. Games that are notorious for not being HT-friendly on Sandy saw no performance falloff with the Ivy rendition. Perhaps they have analyzed real-world usage and resource contentions and have added fixes for those situations? Or maybe I'm just reading too much into a preview

I'm specifically referring to Dirt 3 HQ and Starcraft 2, where the 2500k is faster than the 2600k. Not only is the 3770k significantly faster than both chips, the performance gap between the 2600k and 3770k is surprisingly large.


We will have to wait for real benchmarks to be certain, but if Intel has tweaked HT I think there would be no reason not to spend a little more on the feature now.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:37 PM
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I hadn't though about it that way until I read your post, but damn my q9650 has been with me a while now. I also skipped sandybridge and have been waiting on ivybridge for about the past 6 months or so now that it's finally starting to show its age in new games. Personally I'll be after an i7-3770k.
I'm still running my q9450 at 3.2 and have been wanting to up to sb for a while but couldn't justify the price since it has been kicking ass for so long. But ib looks great and now I think I have enough reasons to upgrade, the new i5s look great, but those i7s look to be priced great!

Looking forward to the reviews.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:40 PM
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What does the K mean? Looking at that chart the 3570K and 3570 look exactly the same except the price and the HD Graphics Model number (which I would disable anyway).
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:50 PM
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K means you can overclock by raising the multiplier over the stock setting. Sandy Bridge had the same feature.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:52 PM
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The "K" denotes the part is unlocked multiplier. It costs more because they did less with it. Right.....
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:54 PM
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OK, thanks. I would just go with non K for less money and up the frequency. I don't do massive OC anyway because there is not much to be gained from it.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:59 PM
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I'm happy with my SB-E in my main rig for now, but I would really like an Ivy Bridge Xeon E3 V2 for my server...

I'm thinking the Xeon E3-1265L v2

I wonder when we'll see these...
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:59 PM
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OK, thanks. I would just go with non K for less money and up the frequency. I don't do massive OC anyway because there is not much to be gained from it.
Unfortunately, doesn't really work that way anymore. Can only get around 6% by raising the base clock. "FSB" overclocking died with Nehalem/Westmere.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:00 PM
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and up the frequency.
I believe like SB (sandy bridge) the frequency will be pretty much locked or limited to not much more than the stock setting.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:01 PM
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wake me up when we get cpus with 16 cores or 10 ghz that intel promised aeons ago to be feasible by now.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:04 PM
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Unfortunately, doesn't really work that way anymore. Can only get around 6% by raising the base clock. "FSB" overclocking died with Nehalem/Westmere.
Exactly.

if you want to do any noticeable overclocking, you are going to want a K branded part.

the price difference is usually only just over $10, so its not a biggie.

Biggest deal is if you were planning on using VT-d, which you lose with the K parts, but if you were, good luck finding a compatible desktop motherboard anyway
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:04 PM
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OK, thanks again. Guess I will pay the extra and get the K model then. I have Lynfield now and can OC by upping the frequency.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:05 PM
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wake me up when we get cpus with 16 cores or 10 ghz that intel promised aeons ago to be feasible by now.
Yea, what happened to Moore's law?
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:07 PM
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I believe like SB (sandy bridge) the frequency will be pretty much locked or limited to not much more than the stock setting.
Actually it looks like IB users may get the option of 133 MHz BCLK. SB-E has an additional 125 MHz BCLK option, but there's no reason you can't get a respectable overclock with the slightly wider window of 133 MHZ increments.

http://palupix.blogspot.com/2011/08/...-bridge-e.html

Since i5 "locked" Intel CPUs allow you to use any multiplier below the stock value + 4, you should be able to overclock Ivy Bridge quite well even without a fully-unlocked CPU (see articles about 3820 overclocking). We will have to wait and see if this is true, but if we have 133 MHz BCLK you will no-longer have to pay more for overclocking.

Also, all the hardcore enthusiasts who have been calling Sandy Bridge "too easy" will be very happy with this
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:08 PM
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