Payment Provider Hands Over Name of Torrent Site Owner

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It just goes to show you that even though you think you've outsmarted Hollywood's lawyers, that endless pit of money they have will help them find you. :eek:

After being threatened with a lawsuit by the Hollywood-funded anti-piracy outfit BREIN, a Dutch payment provider has handed over the personal details of a torrent site owner. The anti-piracy group is targeting payment providers in order to reveal the identity of site owners, as the information owners give to hosting companies is often false.
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The site owner should sue the payment provider for handing over his information without legal orders.
 
Quick question before all the outrage begins, I'm just curious if the site in question hosted child pornography would anyone have a problem the same method being used to track the owners down?

HOCP4ME said:
The site owner should sue the payment provider for handing over his information without legal orders.
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Obviously you didn't read the article.

“Dutch case law (in particular the Pessers/Lycos case) has held that in certain cases internet providers and other intermediaries are indeed required to hand over identifying information if a customer is likely committing a tort. A court intervention is not necessary according to our High Court,” he previously told TorrentFreak.

“The legal requirements are that it is without serious doubt that this customer is committing the tort, that releasing the identifying information is relevant for the case *and* that an evaluation of customer privacy versus the interests of the third party reveals ultimately that privacy must give way to those interests.”

In this particular case the payment provider was convinced that the actions of the torrent site were severe enough to give up the private information. One has to question though if the ‘evidence’ presented by a party that has a clear stake in a dispute will be objective.
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Torrenting software is like downloading child pornography?
 
DarkStar_WNY said:
Quick question before all the outrage begins, I'm just curious if the site in question hosted child pornography would anyone have a problem the same method being used to track the owners down?
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Uh, hell yea I would. If the owner hosted the site, it would be obvious that the legal system would intervene, so the question is moot. If it was a torrent some jerk off uploaded to the site, he isn't responsible for it, unless he was warned of it and wanted to keep it there, which is probably impossible to prove in any case.

I love how people try to fear monger by saying, if it was this, if it was that, ... we'll see what happens if your house gets raided and your family get a full cavity search, and people think "well what if he was a terrorist?"
 
Piracy is stealing now piracy equals child pornography... Just execute all pirates and be done with it.
 
These people hosting torrent sites are providing a service. They themselves are not breaking the law in any way. They allow people to upload torrents, regardless of what it is. They can and often do upload legal material. But of course, there are bad cookies. Back to my main point, the person maintaining the site shouldn't be held accountable for other people's possessions. You can find illegal content on Google, you don't see anybody accusing them of breaking the law.
 
they should just forget about this thing and start doing something else. it's just all about money.
 
I've just had a great idea. Instead of the MPAA going after middlemen why don't they sue the movie studios for releasing the movies to the general public so they can in turn be uploaded.
 
First!! Where do we get our personal information rights?

Swiss Payment Providings. Where is the Swiss banking privacy rights (which seems to not matter too much lately) going to come from. I mean the Swiss made a crap ton of money by simply ensuring privacy of it's members and making it illegal to divulge personal client information.

Maybe from India? I can already hear the phone call. (Hears a person that almost sound like he's on the cast of Outsourced)

"Hello!! Would you like to sign up for secure payment providings?"

"Um?? Who are you?"

"We will providings the access for providings the secure payment provindings. We will be providings these privacy providings for only 200 dollars a month"

TL;DR?? What country stands up for personal privacy in the new age?

Did read didn't get the joke HILARIOUS!!
 
Everything related to payment, hosting, and domain should all be registered under bogus info anyways. Then just paid with gift cards.
 
HOCP4ME said:
The site owner should sue the payment provider for handing over his information without legal orders.
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True.

DarkStar_WNY said:
Quick question before all the outrage begins, I'm just curious if the site in question hosted child pornography would anyone have a problem the same method being used to track the owners down?
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It doesn't matter. Getting a letter demanding info "or we'll sue" without proof shouldn't have been enough to warrant giving the info out. A court order would at least show due process is being followed.
 
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