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. I'm of the same opinion. It may be that a lot of people are fine with 1.65V for now, but I think the bigger problem is lifetime in the long run.I would avoid 1.65V kits for all new builds. In my opinion 1.65V ram is of lesser quality since it needs more than the JEDEC 1.5V standard to work..
I would avoid 1.65V kits for all new builds. In my opinion 1.65V ram is of lesser quality since it needs more than the JEDEC 1.5V standard to work..
where did you see filling 4 slots slow down your system?
I would get 4 x 4gb sticks.
Everywhere, plus my own experience of having 4x4GB of 1600Mhz in an ASUS WS Revolution only running at 1333.
I'll try to post one of the locations. As always, I failed to bookmark it.
Not that it slows down your system so much, but that the memory runs at a slower speed (i.e. 1333 versus 1600mhz) if you use 4 slots instead of only 2 slots due to memory slot sharing or some funny business like that.
I think this thread discusses it a bit but I've seen many others:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-memory/918951-p67-difference-having-2-vs-4-a.html
http://www.overclock.net/intel-memory/890415-implications-using-all-4-memory-slots.html
"Ive heard the same thing. Its suppose to be putting more stress on the memory controller with 4 sticks."
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/917154-sucky-sandy-bridge-memory-controllers.html
That's the problem, way overpriced and not the brand I prefer. I guess I may just have to take the speed hit of using all 4 slots versus only 2. Maybe it's not that noticeable, but I have been coming across people talking about it quite a bit lately and I wanted my 2nd build to be an improvement on the first. I didn't read about the slot issue until after I put together the first system.Well if you want 8gb modules then over priced kingston hyper x are the ones to look at.
Here look at these
http://www.google.com/m/products/ca...635&ei=Uf-bTdD3B4rhjgetm6TIAg&ved=0CBAQ8wIwAw
Just make sure their non ecc ones
There are no 8gb sticks available for desktops. Those are ECC registered and won't work.Well if you want 8gb modules then over priced kingston hyper x are the ones to look at.
Here look at these
http://www.google.com/m/products/ca...635&ei=Uf-bTdD3B4rhjgetm6TIAg&ved=0CBAQ8wIwAw
Just make sure their non ecc ones
It's a bunch of crap really. It's often cheaper to buy sticks individually over kits. 4 stick (and 6 stick) kits are all overpriced.Corsairs guide for one advises against populating all the RAM slots, and another thing: on their forum I was getting VERY strong suggestions not to use two 2x4GB kits because "all the modules haven't been tested together". Even if the two kits were the same make model and revision, they were making out like it's more trouble than it's worth. Personally I thought they were being a bit unrealistic... There aren't many 4x4GB kits.
There are no 8gb sticks available for desktops. Those are ECC registered and won't work.
It's a bunch of crap really. It's often cheaper to buy sticks individually over kits. 4 stick (and 6 stick) kits are all overpriced.
So let me get this. There's no 8gb modules there's only 4gb but we can't populate all the slots coz it cause problems. What is the slots there for then?
If your board gives you trouble filling the slots then there's a problem.
Would you have preferred intel to have simply listed the bus speed as 1333 instead of 1333 4 dimm, 1600 2 dimm, like they did years ago. Sticking more stuff on a digital bus always limits its speed (takes longer to stabilize when switching from 0 to 1 or back) and the issue only gets worse at higher frequencies (wht LGA2011 will only be only single channel). This is EE 101 stuff.So let me get this. There's no 8gb modules there's only 4gb but we can't populate all the slots coz it cause problems. What is the slots there for then? If your board gives you trouble filling the slots then there's a problem. I think most of the time the people got ram problems by using sticks with different voltages or buying OCZ stuff whither they're mixed up branding. People seem to forget that the modern cpu got a IMC. Socket 1156 run on 1.5v and 1366 on 1.65v. Sandy bridge luckily is very robust and can take both
Would you have preferred intel to have simply listed the bus speed as 1333 instead of 1333 4 dimm, 1600 2 dimm, like they did years ago?
Populating all 4 slots does not limit you to 1333. The Sandy Bridge controller is proving to be pretty formidable, in fact the Corsair Vengeance 16GB kit runs at 1866 and beyond.
My point was that populating all 4 slots does not limit you to 1333, as this thread was suggesting.
I'm currently running the Vengeance 4x4GB kit at 1600MHz at stock voltages and settings. I wouldn't call that overclocking.
Which motherboard are you using? And the memory is rated at 1600 and not something higher?
Running your ram at Intel supported frequencies. Remember that the memory controller is on the CPU and the maximum Intel supported frequency is 1333 MHz.
Its not the board that is the problem its the IMC inside the CPU was designed to use 1333 MHz ram maximum.
Hmmm....I'm running 4 X 4 GB at 1600 at no problems.
I've heard that using all 4 slots would hamper overclocking ability...and even that is a matter of degree, because it depends on how aggressively one attempts to overclock.
My memory has two profiles, SPD and XMP. By default, the BIOS initially used the SPD profile which set the RAM to 1333. Usually there's a setting in the BIOS to enable XMP timings. I just switched mine to 1600 and it picked up the XMP timings. And yes, Intel, refers to this as overclocking.
I am currently running 16GB of Corsair Vengeance ram @ 1600MHz with no issues what so ever. In fact my CPU is overclocked too, it's running at 4.4GHz. (never pushed higher) All i've done is change the ratio from 34 to 44. There was no bus speed change.
Do NOT believe all this shit that you can't run 4 sticks at 1600MHz. I don't know where those guys are getting their information.
Do NOT believe all this shit that you can't run 4 sticks at 1600MHz. I don't know where those guys are getting their information.
I think I would have preferred it was listed better. With the necessary PCI-X sharing, they mention it right in the motherboard specs. They tell you if you use that 3rd 16 PCI-X slot that you will not get the full x16 speed but with mem they many times don't tell you.
So, for the memory item. (4 slots full = 1333, 2 slots = 1600).
Everywhere, plus my own experience of having 4x4GB of 1600Mhz in an ASUS WS Revolution only running at 1333.
I got 2 separate kits of RipjawsX 2x4GB at 9-9-9-24 timings,