1st time here!
Not sure if to post this in AMD's forum or Asus' forum but I see a healthy thriving community at Hardforum and so I'll try here first.
System:
Asus KCMA-D8 Dual-proc motherboard with:
2 x AMD Opteron 4122 (Lisbon) quad-core, 2.2GHz
4 x 4GB Kingston DDR3-1333 ECC (unbuffered)
Various SATA hard drives not in any RAID configuration, each as a single drive.
Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 running as a Microsoft Hyper-V host
Comment: this was meant to be a home test-lab for Hyper-V and a variety of Microsoft servers and virtual machines. This is my first AMD build in a while.
Problem 1: Memtest86+ ver 4.10 gives a very poor memory test speeds. I get a memory test speed of about 3,000 MB/second. I think this is too low. Not sure if the AMD Opti and the motherboard is fully recognized by Memtest86+ but it seems to know that it's an AMD K10. Contrast this with my primary PC, an Intel Core i7-960, 3 x 2GB Kingston DDR3-1333 on a Gigabyte X58A-UD3R, which gets 14,000 MB/sec(!) And it's not overclocked.
Problem 2: The Hyper-V VMs are running quite slowly on this new server. This home test-lab server is going augment my previous home test-lab server, an Intel Q6600 (2.4GHz quad-core, not overclocked) with 8GB DDR2-800 ECC. I created a VM running Win 7 x64-ENT, using just the defaults of 1 "cpu" and 512MB of RAM. It ran sluggishly. I ran the trial copy of the Passmark suite of benchmarks to get a baseline for the AMD-based VM. I then copied the VHD file from the AMD to the Intel box--and thus the VMs were "identical"--and re-ran the Passmark benchmarks for CPU and Memory. The "older technology" Q6600-based system runs the VM nearly twice as fast as the AMD one.
I can't see why there is this poor level of performance from a current technology AMD solution. I bought the lowest-end Lisbon knowing that there would be some sacrifice to performance compared to the 6-core monsters. It was an intentional sacrifice because it's a home test lab and I liked both the low-power aspect of the Lisbon and it was great that the CPUs were so cheap (not more than $100 per CPU). But I'm seeing only 50% of the horsepower of a non-Nehalem Intel proc for a VM under Hyper-V and that's a bad result / investment.
Additional Info. Here are the Passmark scores:
Intel Q6600 Hyper-V host, Passmark scores when run on the host:
CPU: 2731
Memory : 606
Asus KCMA-D8 with 2 x Lisbon 4122, Passmark scores on the host:
CPU: 3568
Memory: 191.9
VM under Q6600, Passmark run in the VM (Win 7x64):
CPU: 603
Memory: 314
VM under AMD Lisbon, Passmark run in the VM (Win 7x64):
CPU: 328.4
Memory: 77 [I did another run and the 2nd run for memory showed "119"; still a bit low]
Questions:
1) Is it Hyper-V being a poor match for or does it have compatibility problems with the Lisbon 4122? Supposedly, I have 8 real cores at my disposal so in theory this was ideal for a home lab.
a) the CPU mark for the AMD is much higher than that of the Q6600. Memory performance is poor however and is in-line with what Memtest86+ is reporting.
2) Is it some sort of power or performance throttling by AMD in pursuit of energy saving (e.g. PowerNow)? I see that the Hyper-V host on the AMD system is reporting a number of cores being "parked". I put this out there because the memory speed fluctuates quite a bit in the AMD VM. If it's some sort of badly implemented power-management, is there a way of forcing full performance? I see a way of "disabling" PowerNow in the BIOS (but I'm a work now and can't try it yet).
Not sure if to post this in AMD's forum or Asus' forum but I see a healthy thriving community at Hardforum and so I'll try here first.
System:
Asus KCMA-D8 Dual-proc motherboard with:
2 x AMD Opteron 4122 (Lisbon) quad-core, 2.2GHz
4 x 4GB Kingston DDR3-1333 ECC (unbuffered)
Various SATA hard drives not in any RAID configuration, each as a single drive.
Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 running as a Microsoft Hyper-V host
Comment: this was meant to be a home test-lab for Hyper-V and a variety of Microsoft servers and virtual machines. This is my first AMD build in a while.
Problem 1: Memtest86+ ver 4.10 gives a very poor memory test speeds. I get a memory test speed of about 3,000 MB/second. I think this is too low. Not sure if the AMD Opti and the motherboard is fully recognized by Memtest86+ but it seems to know that it's an AMD K10. Contrast this with my primary PC, an Intel Core i7-960, 3 x 2GB Kingston DDR3-1333 on a Gigabyte X58A-UD3R, which gets 14,000 MB/sec(!) And it's not overclocked.
Problem 2: The Hyper-V VMs are running quite slowly on this new server. This home test-lab server is going augment my previous home test-lab server, an Intel Q6600 (2.4GHz quad-core, not overclocked) with 8GB DDR2-800 ECC. I created a VM running Win 7 x64-ENT, using just the defaults of 1 "cpu" and 512MB of RAM. It ran sluggishly. I ran the trial copy of the Passmark suite of benchmarks to get a baseline for the AMD-based VM. I then copied the VHD file from the AMD to the Intel box--and thus the VMs were "identical"--and re-ran the Passmark benchmarks for CPU and Memory. The "older technology" Q6600-based system runs the VM nearly twice as fast as the AMD one.
I can't see why there is this poor level of performance from a current technology AMD solution. I bought the lowest-end Lisbon knowing that there would be some sacrifice to performance compared to the 6-core monsters. It was an intentional sacrifice because it's a home test lab and I liked both the low-power aspect of the Lisbon and it was great that the CPUs were so cheap (not more than $100 per CPU). But I'm seeing only 50% of the horsepower of a non-Nehalem Intel proc for a VM under Hyper-V and that's a bad result / investment.
Additional Info. Here are the Passmark scores:
Intel Q6600 Hyper-V host, Passmark scores when run on the host:
CPU: 2731
Memory : 606
Asus KCMA-D8 with 2 x Lisbon 4122, Passmark scores on the host:
CPU: 3568
Memory: 191.9
VM under Q6600, Passmark run in the VM (Win 7x64):
CPU: 603
Memory: 314
VM under AMD Lisbon, Passmark run in the VM (Win 7x64):
CPU: 328.4
Memory: 77 [I did another run and the 2nd run for memory showed "119"; still a bit low]
Questions:
1) Is it Hyper-V being a poor match for or does it have compatibility problems with the Lisbon 4122? Supposedly, I have 8 real cores at my disposal so in theory this was ideal for a home lab.
a) the CPU mark for the AMD is much higher than that of the Q6600. Memory performance is poor however and is in-line with what Memtest86+ is reporting.
2) Is it some sort of power or performance throttling by AMD in pursuit of energy saving (e.g. PowerNow)? I see that the Hyper-V host on the AMD system is reporting a number of cores being "parked". I put this out there because the memory speed fluctuates quite a bit in the AMD VM. If it's some sort of badly implemented power-management, is there a way of forcing full performance? I see a way of "disabling" PowerNow in the BIOS (but I'm a work now and can't try it yet).