What Latency is normal for Wireless Adapters?

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bahmirk

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I have a WNDA3100v2 wireless adapter on Windows 7 proff. 64-bit. My router is a WRT160Nv3 (not the latest firmware cause i feel it didn't change anything i needed). I ran a ping test to the router. I get high latency in games like WoW and Black Ops 100-200 in a FPS is just bad news but WoW it's tolerable.

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=6
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=6

the ping seems really erratic. I assume its the wireless adapter it is probably not the best for what i want to do though it can get high speeds, though ping and speed have little to do with each other. I don't use the netgear manager or wizard program the drivers install cause I'd rather just use windows to manage my connection. I'm just wondering what i need to do to lower my ping I have Cox cable, and i am the only really internet user in the house.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Check the signal of your wireless adapter on your computer. If it is low, check the antenna (if it is external) and make sure it is screwed on finger tight. Next try moving your computer closer to the router to get a stronger signal. Or try moving the router closer to your computer to get a stronger signal. If that doesn't work, try changing the channels on your wireless router to see if an alternative channel provides a cleaner signal. Channels 1, 6, and 11 are non-overlapping in a Wireless-B mode. Say you have neighbors who have their own wireless network on Channel 6 that you can see with your computer. Say your wireless router is set to Channel 6. See the problem? Change to either 1 or 11 to avoid interference.

The next thing I would check is what programs are running in the background? A common issue is that bittorrent hoses a network connection due to many packets being transmitted overloading consumer routers. Either shut off bittorrent or lower the global connections in the client, or reduce the upload speed. Doing that will help out your internet connection and make it more stable.

Try running a ping test using a much larger packet size, to get a more accurate reading.

Code: 
ping -l 1000 -t 192.168.1.1
 
I turned off Trillian the beta version and the curse client(for downloading WoW apps and updating them). I think it was trillian that was giving me higher than usual ping, i turned them both off and i got between 60-80 ms in call of duty black ops. I'm gonna try WoW to see if im still getting 250+ latency and i'll post an update in a few days.

It makes sense that trillian would bring some latency but that much? It's checking for emails and twitter updates and IM's from different services so that could be why.

I also want to add my signal strength is usually 4/5 bars. And only one of my neighbors uses the wireless channel I'm on, channel 11. the rest are 6's and a 1. I will try pinging from a cabled computer and then try my computer in there and also try another wireless computer and compare all the pings from that.

Thanks for the reply I'll update in a day or so.
 
mattjw916 said:
gaming over wireless = epic fail

seriously...
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It's not an options sadly.

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 1000 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=128ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=188ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=230ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=250ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=20ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=48ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=118ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=118ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=167ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=258ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=6ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=26ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=80ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=612ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=150ms TTL=64
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=104ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=100ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=203ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=209ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 19, Lost = 1 (5% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 6ms, Maximum = 612ms, Average = 158ms

I pinged the router after i started getting lag in black ops. This also means that its not trillian or the curse client.
 
You can play around with settings on your router, that might help. If you dont know what one is, google that term. You will just get this by trail and error.

The 2 biggest factors are, distance, router,. If you dont have almost all green bars, dont expect good pings. If you have a cheap home so router, dont expect that to beable to provide decents ping when gaming. There is too much going on.

Gaming on wireless and worring about pings, they just dont mix.
 
Langly said:
Agreed.

OP, if you don't know how to make a network cable... take the time to learn about it and do it :) Wireless sucks for gaming
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I know how to make a cable but It isn't an option to run a cable to this room. I just can't, not my house. It's more about finding out what is causing the problem, the adapter, the router or the distance between them. I'm leaning towards the adapter. I can't test all of them right now I was just wondering what was a normal amount of ping from Adapter to Router on wireless N.
 
any 2.4GHz phones in the house?
I've seen microwaves cause interference.
how many APs do you pick up on your laptop?
Download something like inSSIDer and see what channels all the other APs are on, to make a determination of what channel you should set yours too.

Also, you don't necessarily want to pick the channel with the least number of AP's; you want to pick the channel that's going to be fighting the least. For example, there's 5 APs on channel 1, 3 on channel 6, and 4 on channel 11.

But, every single AP on channel 1 has a very high SNR. Every AP on ch1 has an SNR higher than the highest SNR on ch6 and ch11.

Ch. 1 would be the one to go with, because it has the least amount of "traffic" in a sense.

Just because there are only 3 other APs on ch6, they all have low SNR (high SNR = low signal, low SNR = good signal), which means the signal strength is relatively decent, and there will be more interference.
 
OP, first thing to do would be get a tool that would allow you to look at the signal strength and the signal to noise ratio of your wireless. Also make sure that you are not on the same channel as other networks around you. You could try boosting the TX power a bit on the router to help, but most likely you have a dirty signal.
 
I literally moved the router 3-4 feet and now i get A's on Pingtest.net with only 2ms jitter thats amazing compared to before... I'm just gonna try to get it as far to the wall as possible. I'll post my findings later regarding gaming. Thanks for all your suggestions.
 
The way the Router was set up, physically, was on top of a desktop and near a slanting wall (it's the room over the garage so it has slanted walls up there). Anyway, it was kinda close to one of those walls but i figured hey, its a powerful wireless signal its not going to care about that wall, well apparently it does, i get infinitely better pings to the router now. What a strange thing to be extremely happy about.

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 1000 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=6ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=1000 time=1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 6ms, Average = 1ms

Thank you all but i think my problem is solved now, I think we remember the saying "if you aren't happy with the routing move it 5 inches." or something like that, that's what i learned today.
 
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