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Old 11-09-2010, 03:24 AM
heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it., 9.1 Years
 
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HP Slate... Sold out till the New Year?

And the iPad doesn't seem to be an HP Slate killer either.

I've been chatting with a number of HP Slate buyers out there and apparently the damn thing is already a smash hit. HP COMPLETELY underestimated demand and apparently they are only able to make a fraction of what what they can sell. HP's site shows a ship date of early next month but a lot of people are saying they are getting emails saying that there orders are delayed indefinitely.

I know a lot of you think the Slate is expensive but $800 for an active digitizer slate with 5 hours of battery life at only 1.5 lbs.is actually remarkable.

Fortunately I ordered on launch day and hope to have mine next week (that's what my online invoice is still saying and I've not gotten a sorry-gram from HP) and I'll be posting a review. Can't wait for the iPad folks to rip it a new one while it sells like cheap crack.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:15 AM
griffinhart Gawd, 9.4 Years
 
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My "estimated delivery date" is still 11/12/10. So Looks like I'm still on track to get mine next week.

I agree about the value of the device. Ok, it could be cheaper, but considering the feature set and accessories, it's actually a better deal than getting an equivilant iPad.

For $100 more than a 64GB WiFi only iPad, you get the Active Digitizer w/ pen, dual cameras Docking Station and Case. The last two would cost you an extra $75 or so to buy for the iPad.

I wish this device had the battery life of the iPad, or even the touchsmart TM2, but, I'm looking forward to getting it.

I hope this demonstrates to other would be slate devices that a digitizer w/ pen is something a lot of us really want in a slate.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:05 AM
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sweet......i'd be willing to bet its the screen on backorder (thats what held my 2740p, guessing popularity was misjudged on that as well)
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:28 AM
heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it., 9.1 Years
 
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Well I just got one of those delay emails and called HP and the person I just spoke to said no Slate for you next week! They're saying for me the week of Thanksgiving. I'm going to ping the HP rep that sold me mine and see that he says.
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:42 AM
W.Feather [H]Moderator, 5.1 Years
 
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raise a shit storm got my shipdate for my 2740p(yes different product....same place though) changed back to the origional delayed shipdate rather than the one that was a month after that..
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:19 PM
heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it., 9.1 Years
 
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Just got a response back from my HP rep. He's THINKING I should get mine next week but he's not sure, they are overwhelmed with orders, HP simply did not anticipate the demand level it looks. So with my luck I'm expecting a delay.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:18 PM
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if you do raise a shit storm. You will commonly get some form of discount , at the very least a free gift card (which is what happened with me in regards to my delayed order of the Hp Envy 14)
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:25 PM
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Just got a response back from my HP rep. He's THINKING I should get mine next week but he's not sure, they are overwhelmed with orders, HP simply did not anticipate the demand level it looks. So with my luck I'm expecting a delay.
maybe they had nay sayers in production
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:55 PM
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I think you're overestimating the popularity of it a bit (you know I'd say that, but it's true!).

You can ship a very small quantity and sell out if your demand is only slightly bigger. I'm glad for HP, but Apple will still have sold more iPads this month than the HP Slate will manage for its next 12 -- probably more than all Windows tablet PCs combined.

The Slate is well-designed for what it is, but it's being built and marketed for insurance claim adjusters and doctors, not "everyone." I'm more interested in the PalmPad, since that's what HP plans to support the most and should have the battery life, interface and performance people actually want.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:58 PM
heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it., 9.1 Years
 
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PCs outsell Macs around 10 to 1 but Macs are still popular wouldn't you say?

The HP Slate is looking to be a kick ass note taking and productivity device, non-Windows devices at the moment just can't compete in this area no matter how great the battery life and UI are.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:06 PM
Aurelius [H]ard|Gawd, 11.8 Years
 
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PCs outsell Macs around 10 to 1 but Macs are still popular wouldn't you say?

The HP Slate is looking to be a kick ass note taking and productivity device, non-Windows devices at the moment just can't compete in this area no matter how great the battery life and UI are.
I think we can agree in both areas. It's just a question of relative popularity. Also, I'm very curious as to how those Kno tablets work out. They're using a custom Linux OS on a 14-inch capacitive touchscreen (or two, in case of the dual model) that supports pens too, so in theory they could have the HP Slate beat.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:19 PM
heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it., 9.1 Years
 
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Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on the Kno, the issue with it will be handwriting recognition, this is one thing that Windows excels at that's a natural fit for slate devices and it's not easy to replicate
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:42 PM
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If I'd ordered at a given date, and they changed it, I'd be calling back demanding a discount for my frustration - if they back down then I'd cancel the order outright.

But that's just me, of course.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:42 PM
heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it., 9.1 Years
 
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Yeah I'd pitch a fit too but I'm not even sure I need to yet. My online invoice is still showing a delivery date for this Sunday, which is wrong but is assuming a ship date of this Friday which is when the first units were supposed to ship. Guess we'll know soon enough.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:13 PM
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Let us know how it works for you, I'm rooting for someone here, more competition is a good thing! *'watches topic*
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:56 PM
Aurelius [H]ard|Gawd, 11.8 Years
 
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Well, now we know why the Slate 500 has sold out: HP only planned to make 5,000. You can sell out pretty easily when you set the bar that low. It might explain why HP wasn't giving out review units; give out 50 samples and you've set aside 1% of sales.

For reference: when Apple launched the iPad, it was selling about 1 million per month, or about 33,333 per day (that number has since gone up). At that rate, Apple outsold even the increased 9,000-unit Slate order quantity in... seven hours.

Again, the HP Slate can be very useful in the right circumstances, but you can be certain Steve Ballmer won't be holding it up at CES 2011 as the Apple killer he wanted it to be at CES this year.
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Old 11-14-2010, 03:25 PM
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And Apple has spent how many millions promoting the iPad? Not exactly a fair comparison. HP isn't even trying to promote the Slate and I bet that has a lot to do with not wanting to interfere with their webOS plans.

The device that Microsoft will be touting at CES will be the Asus EP121 which will come with a UI that they co-develooed with Asus.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:22 PM
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My guess is that >75% of the people who're responsible for the 'unprecedented demand' shouldn't be buying it.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:23 PM
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And Apple has spent how many millions promoting the iPad? Not exactly a fair comparison. HP isn't even trying to promote the Slate and I bet that has a lot to do with not wanting to interfere with their webOS plans.

The device that Microsoft will be touting at CES will be the Asus EP121 which will come with a UI that they co-develooed with Asus.
The webOS tablet has a certain part to play in it, no doubt, but remember what happened in the first half of the year; it was clear HP didn't have confidence that it'd succeed.

I was at the CES keynote where Steve Ballmer first showed the Slate. He gave it a brief demo using an e-reader app and Windows Media Player. HP's promo videos for the first half of the year were showing Flash videos and even syncing an Apple device through iTunes. It, and definitely Microsoft, wanted it so desperately to be an iPad killer.

Acquiring Palm certainly changed HP's tune, but think about when and why it happened: the buyout occurred in the spring, after the Slate was well into development and was even rumored close to release. Odds are, they looked at the cost, the five hours of battery life and the interface and realized it probably wouldn't hold up in the market.

HP could have thrown lots of marketing dollars at the Slate if it wanted, so I don't think that's the issue. And look at how relatively little money it puts into PC marketing but yet still leads in world computer share. Apple most likely managed to hit a sweet spot in price and backed it up with a good interface as well as, very importantly, a good explanation of what you could do with it.

As powerful as a Windows tablet PC can be in certain areas, I don't think Microsoft has ever made a compelling case in marketing (or even at keynotes) for the mainstream user. Some students, some inventory warehouse workers, some serious iSketch addicts, but not someone who just wants to curl up with an e-book or get to e-mail inbox zero at the coffee shop.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:44 AM
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The thing about using Windows on my W100 and tm2 is that I can do things on a desktop just like a desktop. Now the tm2 is a comvertiable but the HP Slate will have a digital pen as well so that is what is appealing to me.

And you are quite right, Microsoft has not only not had a compelling message about Tablet PCs. it's had no message at all. Microsoft has never really tried to market Tablet PCs and that is odd as Microsoft did make some serious investments in the technology. The handwriting recognition in Windows is rather amazing. It fantastic overall with standard text.
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