Warp Speed Will Kill You

I guess somebody forgot to tell Zefram Cochrane.

I'm not saying that we know everything and that it's impossible. I'm saying it's kind of impossible based on what we know right now.

Dammit, science, stop harshing my fandom.

LOL. Time to start thinking of another way.

Some form of shielding would have to be created in order to travel that way...of course Gene Roddenberry thought of that too.
Doing shielding and warp speed exactly how its done in Star Trek though is an entirely different story.

that's what the deflector dish is for...

step 1 : separate spacetime like moses did to water.

step 2: don't travel 99% the speed of light. instead, just walk between time.

I remind everyone that starships like Enterprise have a deflector dish which is used to deflect incoming particles.

Originally Posted by goodcooper

that's what the deflector dish is for...

This ...

This is implying that the object is moving at light speed. Warp theory is that space time around you is moving at the speed of light. The object within the 'warp bubble' is not actually moving.

Some physicists while being really smart are also really stupid. Next someone will be telling us that space travel is impossible because you would suffocate.

Bah, screw warp speed give me a TARDIS.

Originally Posted by Derangel

Bah, screw warp speed give me a TARDIS.

?what

1. I really don't get how this person "discovered"/"calculated" this... I mean doppler shifting of light at relativistic speeds isn't exactly new.

2. Warp speed doesn't accelerate through the speed of light, it warps space moving the space FTL but everything inside of it is moving at normal speeds... so suck on that one egg head!

Originally Posted by matrix563

?what

Time and Relative Dimension In Space. TARDIS. Its the Doctor's police box looking ship from Doctor Who.

Originally Posted by bigdogchris

This is implying that the object is moving at light speed. Warp theory is that space time around you is moving at the speed of light. The object within the 'warp bubble' is not actually moving.

I thought about that too but in Star Trek you can still hit objects at warp. With this logic they could fly at warp clear through a planet or star. On may occasions crews have expressed concern about hitting a planet or star at warp.

Like you I have the tendency to believe that in real life you would more likely fly clear through objects instead of hitting them.

Ok, time to trot the trek geek out..

This guy doesn't get it. Warp isn't about speed it's about folding space. The ship technically doesn't move space is folded around it hence no speed per se'

All that other crap he's worried about (radiation, atoms etc) is taken care of by the warp bubble plus a myriad of yet uninvented shielding technologies not to mention that big ol' deflector dish (get it, it DEFLECTS stuff). Watch any of the trek series and eventually they'll be wailing on about the secondary hull breach and deadly radiation of one sort or another because the protection is compromised.

Ok, nuf geek stuff, gotta go pump some iron and bench lift a Buick or something...

"Breaking news! This technology that doesn't exist wouldn't work! Well... unless you had some of the other technologies that don't exist."

Totally silly.

Originally Posted by sfsuphysics

1. I really don't get how this person "discovered"/"calculated" this... I mean doppler shifting of light at relativistic speeds isn't exactly new.

2. Warp speed doesn't accelerate through the speed of light, it warps space moving the space FTL but everything inside of it is moving at normal speeds... so suck on that one egg head!

True enough. I remember teaching this to a 6th grader way back in 1991....

Originally Posted by sfsuphysics

2. Warp speed doesn't accelerate through the speed of light, it warps space moving the space FTL but everything inside of it is moving at normal speeds... so suck on that one egg head!

John W. Campbell mentioned this back in the 1920's-30's in his Arcott, Morey and Wade stories. True he used Time bubbles then, but...

Roddenberry, or rather his ghost writer, mentioned long ago in one of the Making of Star Trek books that the ship travels in a bubble and never actually exceeds light speed, and that it wasn't so much the planets and suns they were afraid of running into, as it was that their gravity wells could distort or disrupt the ships warp bubble.
Duh! This dunce discovers things even the show Producer was aware of nearly 50 years ago.

Maybe this guy should have a talk with Dr. Michio Kaku.

Originally Posted by niconx

I thought about that too but in Star Trek you can still hit objects at warp. With this logic they could fly at warp clear through a planet or star. On may occasions crews have expressed concern about hitting a planet or star at warp.

Like you I have the tendency to believe that in real life you would more likely fly clear through objects instead of hitting them.

The Deflector Dish main purpose is to move debris out of the way. Plus long range sensors would help ship to navigate around any larger objects.