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Old 03-13-2010, 10:28 AM
Rookie News Poster [H] News Editor, 7 Months
 
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Only a Fool Would Pre-Order an iPad

Okay just so we are clear I'm not calling anyone a fool but this guy is.

I can't say I totally disagree with him.

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Maybe the infamous Jobs reality distortion field does have limits after all.

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Old 03-13-2010, 10:32 AM
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Just like anything apple does (Macbook Air gen 1, Iphone gen 1, Ipod Touch gen 1), always avoid the first gen. It's simply made to take money from the Apple cult.

If you get anything Apple, always buy gen 2 or gen 3 when they add normal things like usb, mms, etc, and charge a decent price.
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Old 03-13-2010, 11:01 AM
IRSmurf [H]ard|Gawd, 3.4 Years
 
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LOL @ butthurt Mac fanatics:

"I guess there is a reason why Steve Jobs is a billionaire and you are a penniless technoblogger."

"I am unsubscribing immediately. Thank you Mr. Gruman for making the final push!"

"As to the iPad, the opinions expressed in this article are nothing more than a FUD bowel movement. This old IT trick has become utterly boorish and tiresome. FUD practitioners operate with all the brain power of Detroit in the early 1970's. If you want to identify a real fool, locate any technologist who claims otherwise."

"If the iPad was like North Korea, Safari wouldn't exist on it and the outside world would be closed to you. You are free to roam about the world, but you can find comfort within the confines of the App Store." (I think this guy missed the point of that analogy)

If the author were taking a dig directly at Mac owners, I would understand... but these people take anything written about Apple personally. I love Mac's hardware, but their community drives me away from purchasing one for myself.
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Old 03-13-2010, 11:11 AM
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I love Mac's hardware, but their community drives me away from purchasing one for myself.
But the hardware is the exact same as a PC. So you should say you love Mac's "software" right?
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Old 03-13-2010, 11:43 AM
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the very last sentence made me snicker
"Let's hope most Apple fans are as smart as they claim to be."

smart enough to pay twice the cost for the same hardware, a bastardized version of an open source OS.. and a pretty case. I for one will never pay apple a dime, really just because of the cult of Steve Jobs,
yeah sure he had some great visions of what computing could be in the 70's but with all of that acid in his head he probably had some great revelations about the consistency of bread as well. it's like buying an Audi when the VW is the same damn thing without the hardwood dash.. pure penis extension
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:01 PM
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it's like buying an Audi when the VW is the same damn thing without the hardwood dash.. pure penis extension
Aw... don't bring Audi into the argument. VW has lots of fine cars but no equivalents to the A6/S5 line and above.
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:07 PM
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the very last sentence made me snicker
"Let's hope most Apple fans are as smart as they claim to be."

smart enough to pay twice the cost for the same hardware, a bastardized version of an open source OS.. and a pretty case. I for one will never pay apple a dime, really just because of the cult of Steve Jobs,
yeah sure he had some great visions of what computing could be in the 70's but with all of that acid in his head he probably had some great revelations about the consistency of bread as well. it's like buying an Audi when the VW is the same damn thing without the hardwood dash.. pure penis extension
This is exactly what I say when I talk about mac's to mac fans. I have NO problem with mac computers as they are pretty good computers. Granted, they are limited to non-gamers, but for an idiot-proof pc they do well. However, I absolutely HATE apple fanatics. They will swear by anything Jobs comes up with as the end-all do-all. When I pointed out to a mac fan that a mac is nothing more than a pc with a linux based o/s, he flat out told me I had no clue what I was talking about. He would not believe that his precious mac was using an Intel processor on an Intel mobo. When I asked him how they could get bootcamp to run windows unless it was on an x86 based system, he looked at me like I had just given him proof Jesus was fake. Its those kinds of people that turn me away from Macs (that and the price heh).

Oh well, the whole apple vs pc argument is old and stale. Mac will come out with stuff thats been around in concept or actual devices and the mac crowd will claim its better because its apple. Those that actually care about technology will always know better and treat apple products as what they are, redesigned concepts from others with a few small innovative changes.
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:19 PM
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Love that quote:
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Maybe the infamous Jobs reality distortion field does have limits after all.
As Scotty would say: I don't know how much she can take Captain! LOL
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:23 PM
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I know too many Applephiles and sure enough a good handful of them preordered these things on day one. At least some of them did have some reservations about waiting beyond version 1.0 but still they're retarded
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:41 PM
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Who is Galen Gruman and why should we be giving a crap about his opinion?

I know exactly what I'm buying into. An iPhone with twice the screen size.This makes me a fool? I bought a launch iPhone, launch 3G and launch 3GS. I'm glad I made all those purchases. So are my mother and sister who love to bits their hand-me-downs. Launch iPad will be superceeded a year later by a better version. Err, hello? Welcome to every other phone/gadget/tech on the planet, dumbass.

This guy is a dick. That's my opinion. Should that be a headline, now?
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Old 03-13-2010, 12:57 PM
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But the hardware is the exact same as a PC. So you should say you love Mac's "software" right?
Nope. There are many proprietary technologies used by Apple that falls under the category of "Hardware". It's not just motherboards, processors and graphics cards yknow!

Show me another solid milled aluminum, lit keyboard, glass trackpadded, 9+hrs battery life notebook for under 1100$ and we'll talk... Not to mention the built in i-sight is leaps and bounds better than the majority of cameras included in PC based laptops - even the more expensive ones!

I will never trust my education to a PC laptop again. I've been there, and I've been burnt. I've yet to have a single problem with an apple notebook - and I've had many with the slew of IBM/Lenovo thinkpads I've also owned.
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Old 03-13-2010, 01:51 PM
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I love Mac's hardware, but their community drives me away from purchasing one for myself.
But the community that continually makes fun of the -other- community is so much cooler!



Every time [H] posts an anti-Apple story (ie daily) everyone suddenly behaves like they're 12.
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Old 03-13-2010, 03:11 PM
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But the community that continually makes fun of the -other- community is so much cooler!



Every time [H] posts an anti-Apple story (ie daily) everyone suddenly behaves like they're 12.
Its just a simple ramping up over time from the rivalry that started LONG in the past.

We used to wash our hands after encountering a Mac owner back then.

But yeah, we all are pretty much the same.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:28 PM
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Nope. There are many proprietary technologies used by Apple that falls under the category of "Hardware". It's not just motherboards, processors and graphics cards yknow!

Show me another solid milled aluminum, lit keyboard, glass trackpadded, 9+hrs battery life notebook for under 1100$ and we'll talk... Not to mention the built in i-sight is leaps and bounds better than the majority of cameras included in PC based laptops - even the more expensive ones!

I will never trust my education to a PC laptop again. I've been there, and I've been burnt. I've yet to have a single problem with an apple notebook - and I've had many with the slew of IBM/Lenovo thinkpads I've also owned.
How can you say all of these great things even though your ahem "AMAZING MAC" is in a repair shop as we speak... ya... SO much better than a PC laptop!!!
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:24 PM
krotch [H]ard|Gawd, 6.1 Years
 
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Who is Galen Gruman and why should we be giving a crap about his opinion?

I know exactly what I'm buying into. An iPhone with twice the screen size.This makes me a fool? I bought a launch iPhone, launch 3G and launch 3GS. I'm glad I made all those purchases. So are my mother and sister who love to bits their hand-me-downs. Launch iPad will be superceeded a year later by a better version. Err, hello? Welcome to every other phone/gadget/tech on the planet, dumbass.

This guy is a dick. That's my opinion. Should that be a headline, now?
You're the exact time of moron Apple loves. Yes, technology advances year after year and new products hit the shelves all the time. This is simply not the case with Apple. They purposely will leave out existing technolgy from their 1st Gen or have the technology inside, but disabled. If they didn't do this, their 2nd Gen would never release the next year. That's a loss of money.

You think everything in the iPhone 3G couldn't have been in the original iPhone?
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:31 PM
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iPad Pre-Orders: For Idiots Only
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:21 PM
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You're the exact time of moron Apple loves. Yes, technology advances year after year and new products hit the shelves all the time. This is simply not the case with Apple. They purposely will leave out existing technolgy from their 1st Gen or have the technology inside, but disabled. If they didn't do this, their 2nd Gen would never release the next year. That's a loss of money.
And ya know what irks me off, when they skip out a feature, they would say (or atleast strongly imply) that "Nobody uses it anyway", then completely do a 180 on their exact same opinions when they finally get one that has it. Push it onto their users, complete with instructions on *how* you're supposed to use it. Then when someone comments on the way they previously downplayed it, the apple fans would look at you and say "What the f*ck are you talking about?!"
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:57 PM
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I admit I'm intrigued by the iPad simply because it brings some attention to one my favorite things, tablet PCs and tablet computers in general. I can appreciate the form factor and actually love my tablet PC and use it in ways that a standard laptop isn't as nice or practical and an iPad can also be used in those situations, as an eReader in the bed that sort of thing.

But to be honest people don't seem to be drawn to those usage scenarios. Their phone or laptop still do all they want or need in the situations that they want or need.

Tablets will for the foreseeable future still be very gadgety types of things that really don't address a big need in most peoples day to day lives. Unlike devices like the iPod and iPhone that already had established markets for their respective product categories, namely portable music players and mobile phones. I think its safe to say that these markets were WELL established before Apple put their offering in the market. Yes the devices were successful but they were a simply new spin in a established markets.

The iPad is not nearly as fortunate. Its a totally virgin market, at least in the consumer space and consumers just have never seemed to much want and need these types of devices. That said, there will be a good bit of demand for these devices. Even as niche as the Tablet PC market is, it has been around for seven years and OEMs keep making new models on a yearly basis so somebody likes the idea of tablet computing. And the iPad definitely has attractive characteristics in it's weight, size and battery life.

I really do hope some of these devices will have support for ink. Touch is great but it's really nice to be able to whip out the pen and whip out some text, its faster for me overall than the touch screen keyboard.
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:05 PM
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Umm...HP's tablet lets you write with a stylus and it works pretty well.
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:10 PM
Diarrg Limp Gawd, 1.1 Years
 
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Show me another solid milled aluminum, lit keyboard, glass trackpadded, 9+hrs battery life notebook for under 1100$ and we'll talk... Not to mention the built in i-sight is leaps and bounds better than the majority of cameras included in PC based laptops - even the more expensive ones!
Lulz, show me a non-Mac user who cares about how pretty his laptop is. No-one cares, except for people who need to justify having spent double on a laptop.
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