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11-02-2009, 01:15 PM
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Fermi Working Samples for CES?
As the Consumer Electronics Show grows near, NVIDIA partners are having to get their ducks in line for the upcoming show in the second week of January. However many are asking, why exactly they should be there spending hard earned money with nothing to show off except rebadged parts for generations past? Certainly the 8800 GTX / GTS 250 has seen many CES presentations before. We have word from several different sources that NVIDIA is doing its best to have "working" Fermi-based video cards to show off for CES. We are unsure as to what level they will be shown working, if at all, but for all you NVIDIA fans, this is certainly something good to hear.
Even given a best case scenario for NVIDIA, we here at HardOCP.com find it hard to believe that NVIDIA will get any "real" amount of product to market by March of next year. NVIDIA has yet to speak one word to us about the gaming abilities of the Fermi GPU.
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11-02-2009, 01:18 PM
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I have a thread on the subject of Fermi and from what I read here at the [H] and on the Nvidia website and without any benchmarks so far, I think I'm going to have to pass.
I doubt they'll have it ready in time if they don't even have some benchmarks yet. So I agree.
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11-02-2009, 01:37 PM
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Here we go. so much for Fud claiming Fermi release end of november or early december
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11-02-2009, 01:37 PM
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Talk about dropping the ball
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11-02-2009, 01:40 PM
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A bonus to those people waiting for hard benchmark numbers on the GT300, if it doesn't come out until early next year (March/April) or maybe a bit later, prices on 5870 and possibly 5870x2 will have come down
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11-02-2009, 01:41 PM
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It Nvidia does not come out with something this year they are going to lose alot of customers. I plan on purchasing a 5870 for my new build in December.
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11-02-2009, 01:43 PM
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11-02-2009, 01:46 PM
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11-02-2009, 01:47 PM
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11-02-2009, 01:48 PM
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11-02-2009, 01:48 PM
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I think Nvidia should stop going after Cuda / Cgpu market which so far is only has theoretical potential and stop trying to make their architectures the jack of all trades. Because we all know the saying, "jack of all trades, master of none" and Nvidia for some reason is going down this path. Pretty much the reason why G200 was not competitive price / performance wise. Most people bought the cards to run games not run various CUDA applications on the Cards (ok folding on Nv cards is great but the gaming market is more important and not everyone folds). What Nvidia should do is to (or should have with G200) is concentrate on complete domination the discrete gpu market and once that is secure and is a reliable money maker focus on designing seperate gpu architecture that targets the cgpu/Cuda market more effectively. Just my 0.02. Last edited by DeadSkull; 11-02-2009 at 02:02 PM..
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11-02-2009, 01:52 PM
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nVidia is in real trouble and I think we all know that. They're a graphics company and have no graphics card to show.
I'd like to suggest that they're intelligent enough to cede victory this round to AMD in the graphics arena while they develop this 'Fermi' card for computing purposes other than graphics. Perhaps they are a company in transition at the moment. Sometimes to take a step forward you have to take two steps back.
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11-02-2009, 02:01 PM
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ATI/AMD is back and that makes for better products from both them and NVIDIA in the future.
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11-02-2009, 02:02 PM
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even if fermi blows 58xx away.. they have no answer (that we are aware of ) for juniper and yet to be released redwood and cedar
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11-02-2009, 02:05 PM
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THere is always truth behind price because the price is always right. Maybe not at some instant in time, but eventually price is the ultimate truth revealer.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=nvda Ever since mid September, NVDA stock price has been steadily declining. It means investors are starting to sweat. Doesn't really point to any great expectations for NVDA in the coming months.
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11-02-2009, 02:07 PM
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You guys, the ramifications for this are greater than simply whether or not nVidia will have a faster graphics card than AMD. I think in nVidia's mind, all that is now secondary to what they hope to do with Fermi. nVidia is taking a big risk which I think could make or break them with their divergence from a simple GPU designer/manufacturer to a company that has their hands in a variety of different industries becuase with their new GPU which would be a computational powerhouse.
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11-02-2009, 02:11 PM
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Okay, that was funny I guess all those scientists, hospitals and businesses running high-performance tasks on GPUs are just confused  It's a real shame that nVidia is taking so long this time around. Fermi looks like the long-awaited shift towards a more generic GPU/vector processor design Intel has been hyping for years with its Larrabee. I have no doubt that Fermi as cGPU heralds the future of GPUs, it's just annoying that the future has been postponed for a few more months 
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11-02-2009, 02:14 PM
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11-02-2009, 02:16 PM
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Since the middle of October, AMD has lost 27% of it's value. It looks like AMD's investors are sweeting even more! Oh, wait It's just cherry picking bullshit that means nothing.
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11-02-2009, 02:17 PM
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Last edited by vengence; 11-02-2009 at 02:58 PM.. Reason: Because am an idiot and can't read juniper != Hemlock
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