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Old 10-28-2009, 11:06 AM
Oscar Meyer Limp Gawd, 10 Months
 
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I'm sure this will inflame many but....

Awesome!!!

Now AMD can devote all resources in just making the 4800's and 5800's drivers faster.

http://hardocp.com/news/2009/10/28/a...ards_in_win763

*UPDATE* - http://hardocp.com/news/2009/10/30/a...rdware_in_win7

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Old 10-28-2009, 11:09 AM
SonDa5 2[H]4U, 1.9 Years
 
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I can see this being a problem with people who already bought 5000 series cards and are still using XP.

I'd quickly demand my money back if I were one of them.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:10 AM
Nobi125 [H]ard|Gawd, 5.2 Years
 
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Would be disappointed if I still had my X1800XT.

The Vista drivers probably work fine though.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:12 AM
2wiced [H]ard|Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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I dont see why people should be mad. It says they can use vista drivers. Plus, the "only directx9 cards" are dropped from support. If you card does directx 9, 10, or 11. You are fine.

Doesnt make me mad at all.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:14 AM
Oscar Meyer Limp Gawd, 10 Months
 
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I can see this being a problem with people who already bought 5000 series cards and are still using XP.

I'd quickly demand my money back if I were one of them.
What does this have to do with XP? articles says dropped support for direct 9 only cards in Windows 7..And yes..I'm sure your 770's will continue to get support under windows 7 being they are dx10.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:19 AM
Intel_Hydralisk 2[H]4U, 5.5 Years
 
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I can see this being a problem with people who already bought 5000 series cards and are still using XP.

I'd quickly demand my money back if I were one of them.
A) What does this have to do with 5000 series cards
B) What does this have to do with XP
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:20 AM
Mackowitz [H]ard|Gawd, 2.3 Years
 
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Doesn't make me mad at all - AMD is on it's 4th generation of DX10 cards (2x00, 3xx0, 4xx0, 5xx0?). Can't fault them for dropping DX9 support in Windows 7, and the Vista drivers still work so it's not like you have to buy a new card to use it in Win7.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:36 AM
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meh. not a big deal, and whats it cost to upgrade to a low-end DX 10 card now? $30?
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:39 AM
SonDa5 2[H]4U, 1.9 Years
 
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A) What does this have to do with 5000 series cards
B) What does this have to do with XP

My understanding is that XP uses DirectX9.
So if a person bought a HD5000 series card with DirectX11 wouldn't the person have problems running it on XP because ATI will not support DirectX9?
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:43 AM
Intel_Hydralisk 2[H]4U, 5.5 Years
 
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My understanding is that XP uses DirectX9.
So if a person bought a HD5000 series card with DirectX11 wouldn't the person have problems running it on XP because ATI will not support DirectX9?
It specifically says Windows 7 and directx 9 cards, not directx 9 in general.

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According to AMD's support site, its DirectX 9 cards won’t be officially supported under Windows 7.
a 5000 card isn't a dx 9 card, and Windows 7 isn't Windows XP.

EDIT: Aka, cards older than a HD 2000 won't be supported in Windows 7.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:44 AM
SonDa5 2[H]4U, 1.9 Years
 
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So ATI will support a HD5000 card in DirectX9 mode on Windows XP?
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:45 AM
Brent_Justice [H] Video Card Managing Editor, 10.3 Years
 
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The cards on the list on that page are the ones that won't be supported.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:45 AM
Brent_Justice [H] Video Card Managing Editor, 10.3 Years
 
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So ATI will support a HD5000 card in DirectX9 mode on Windows XP?
Yes. DX9 support isn't going anywhere, only the cards listed on that page (which are DX9 ONLY cards) will not officially receive any more driver updates in Win7.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:50 AM
Valset [H]ardness Supreme, 2.3 Years
 
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did I read that wrong or is are they saying that they don't have the same level of support?

"limited to WDDM 1.0 level support" talking about vista. Either way I can't say I blame them, hell my SB card still doesn't work completely in vista (I really don't miss my game port though)
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:54 AM
Brent_Justice [H] Video Card Managing Editor, 10.3 Years
 
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did I read that wrong or is are they saying that they don't have the same level of support?

"limited to WDDM 1.0 level support" talking about vista. Either way I can't say I blame them, hell my SB card still doesn't work completely in vista (I really don't miss my game port though)
The Vista driver is WDDM 1.0, thus under Win7 it will be running in WDDM 1.0 mode. The cards also do not physically support the WDDM 1.1 features, being that they are limited to DX9. Again, this is only for the cads listed on that page.
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:00 PM
brandinb [H]Lite, 4.5 Years
 
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I think droping x1800 and x1900 series driver support is a bit far but the rest are too old to matter. A x1900xtx is still a decent card for gaming and it would suck if you could not play a newer game because it needed driver support or if you had bugs in a new game with old drivers but were out of luck now.

Basically all the console ports run decent on x1900 series and you have no more driver support for them now :[
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:03 PM
magoo [H]ardness Supreme, 5.8 Years
 
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Sooner or later you just have to let it go.

If you still use XP, you have legacy drivers.
If you use Vista you have what is there now = 9.8
If you use W7 you are SOOL I guess.

Upgrading is good.
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:09 PM
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Funny, if this was Nvidia, people would be freaking out and saying how they should be supporting the low-end market more. In fact, I bet you could literally just change AMD to Nvidia in one week, repost the article, and see people crying.
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:11 PM
jebo_4jc [H]ardForum Junkie, 5.3 Years
 
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I think droping x1800 and x1900 series driver support is a bit far but the rest are too old to matter. A x1900xtx is still a decent card for gaming and it would suck if you could not play a newer game because it needed driver support or if you had bugs in a new game with old drivers but were out of luck now.

Basically all the console ports run decent on x1900 series and you have no more driver support for them now :[
"No more driver support".....what the hell....you can still use Cat 9.8, not to mention, the Vista drivers will probably work just fine.

the x1900 came out 4 years ago. So did the Pentium D and 7800GTX. So I'm really sorry that your Pentium D + X1900 setup won't be getting updated drivers. If you want, you can switch to a 7800GTX in order to get updated drivers.

FFS.

This story gets a big meh from me.

If you want something to run console ports or old games, but you also want updated drivers, maybe you could mow two of your neighbors lawns and buy a $40 9600gso or HD4650
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:14 PM
H-street 2[H]4U, 5.4 Years
 
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I think droping x1800 and x1900 series driver support is a bit far but the rest are too old to matter. A x1900xtx is still a decent card for gaming and it would suck if you could not play a newer game because it needed driver support or if you had bugs in a new game with old drivers but were out of luck now.

Basically all the console ports run decent on x1900 series and you have no more driver support for them now :[
I agree, not supporting the X1900 series is a bad move IMO..

what would be nice is at least 1 or 2 Windows 7 drivers and then drop support. Being able to use vista drivers will be fine but have an "official" windows 7 driver woudl also be nice.
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