One Way To Fight Back Over 2142 Spyware

Someone mentioned the best course here is through the purchasing power.

I agree this is a very effective method, so then in what ways do you all think this can be accomplished?

This is not about standing outside a store making a scene, or badmouthing anyone, it's about educating a consumer.

So we're clear here. This is about just talking to people and letting them know what is going on, then let them decide.

But there needs to be a better understanding by those wanting to invlove themself in a matter like this, and what this type of thing with spyware in gaming can turn into in the future.

If you want to control people, companies, and countries you take away their money, and standing out at stores is a simple approach for reaching the massses and the media at trying to take away money, and hopefully get the consumer into not spending.

There are many issues here at stake. There is alot more going on here then most people realise. It's more then just some simple spyware and ads.

Also talk to friends and family, talk to store managers and see what their take is on this, Costco, Walmart, Kmart, BestBuy, GameStop, etc... Tell it to the masses!

Is it TRUE there is no mention of this on the outside of the box? This is bad especially when stores will not take back an open box. I've known of stores that have this type of policy that won't return it open boxes.

EA needs to MARK this on the outside of the box.

Here is my take on this:
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I look at it this way, we are the PC geeks, and the average PC consumer is clueless to this, and will not even bat an eyelash over this matter.

Personally I think those of you that have purchased this game, especially you, so you can show people your game with this slip of paper to explain this to them. And any other hardcore PC geeks, gamers should do the same.

When you get free time go down to your local game store in the shopping mall and stand outside and let the people know who are going in and out of those stores, and ask if they have bought the game and let them know about this, and explain to them what this means.

And let them know about this for any other games, then ask them how they feel about this and give them an email address and tell them to contact the companies in question, EA, not to send in nasty letters, but as consumers letting them know how we feel about this.


Also possibly some of you live in small towns and know the local News stations, and possibly they might just be looking for some news and they can follow you to the game store and film this while you stand outside the store.

I haven't located any good email addresses for them, in the meantime here is their toll free number for USA/Canada: 866-543-5435

ALOHA


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'm wondering, with the in-game adverts, are they even making money off people who pirate the game?

Im not sure about that I think they just came up with a set price (we will pay you this much to have our ad in your game kinda thing). If that is the case, well than EA beat the system.

Well, EA has been making one bad desision after another. NBA Live 07 is a pos, now bf2142.... very dissapointing.

99.99% of news stations won't care. They're too busy filming people flocking to the latest Jesus-on-a-stained-underpass-wall site or something stupid on ebay.

A lot of people who play the BF series also won't care. They just want to play more BF. Also, game stores are really scaling back on the sale of PC games so standing in front of a Game Stop probably wouldn't be that effective.

I already printed out copies of the EULA addition found inside the game box and posted it all over my college and I told my friend at best buy to warn people about it before they purchase it (he is the manager there so hes going to meet with the staff and discuss this).

Time we take a stand and fight EA! Lets take it to the media! Call Fox, CNN, everyone!

FYI - You can't get a live person through that phone number unless you already own the title. The "ask a question about any EA game" option gets you nice recording with a "Good-bye" at the end of it.

Just don't buy the game.

Yes as I mentioned you take away their money, don't buy the game.

I edited the post, the "green". Look back up at edit.

One small thing everyone is missing here. As PC geeks we understand better about this world of spyware/viruses/malware, etc....

But the average consumer is troubled by this, and by making them aware of this will help them to better understand and most likely if you are a good sales person will convince them not to buy this product.

This all gets down to ----> Do you care, should we care, who cares?

Originally Posted by Riddlinkidstoner

I already printed out copies of the EULA addition found inside the game box and posted it all over my college and I told my friend at best buy to warn people about it before they purchase it (he is the manager there so hes going to meet with the staff and discuss this).

Time we take a stand and fight EA! Lets take it to the media! Call Fox, CNN, everyone!

Good one!

I'm serious about taking it to the media though...if this got on the news and obviously if we explain its clearly NOT marked on the box that SPYWARE (define: spyware = what they are doing) however they must agree to this insert inside the box to install/play the game or else your SOL, ontop of that you cannot return open software. It seems illegal to me...or should be.

I'm sure any news network would take this seriously if it had the name "Internet" "spyware" and a major company in it.

Originally Posted by Riddlinkidstoner

I already printed out copies of the EULA addition found inside the game box and posted it all over my college and I told my friend at best buy to warn people about it before they purchase it (he is the manager there so hes going to meet with the staff and discuss this).

Time we take a stand and fight EA! Lets take it to the media! Call Fox, CNN, everyone!

Excellent my good man! I'm calling my bro's right now.

Originally Posted by Riddlinkidstoner

I'm serious about taking it to the media though...if this got on the news and obviously if we explain its clearly NOT marked on the box that SPYWARE (define: spyware = what they are doing) however they must agree to this insert inside the box to install/play the game or else your SOL, ontop of that you cannot return open software. It seems illegal to me...or should be.

I'm sure any news network would take this seriously if it had the name "Internet" "spyware" and a major company in it.

OH nothing is marked on the outside of the box?

Yes this is bad especially when stores will not take back an open box. I've known of stores that have this type of policy that won't return it open, hmm

Yes EA needs to MARK this on the outside of the box.

I've contacted CNN with a list of websites that have been discussing it thus far and a picture of the insert inside the box. I've also explained to them that this is not printed on the box itself
and consumers are required to comply by this or not to use the software which in turn is not returnable. I also commented on the spyware involved in this and the advertisment monitoring that will happen without the consent of the consumer before purchase.

I dunno if it will do any good but I gave it a shot.

Originally Posted by Riddlinkidstoner

I've contacted CNN with a list of websites that have been discussing it thus far and a picture of the insert inside the box. I've also explained to them that this is not printed on the box itself
and consumers are required to comply by this or not to use the software which in turn is not returnable. I also commented on the spyware involved in this and the advertisment monitoring that will happen without the consent of the consumer before purchase.

I dunno if it will do any good but I gave it a shot.

Well most people think to go for the throat as in this case contacting the BIG media a good thing, sometimes it can be, but in this case, they'll most likely toss it to the side.

A BETTER angle is a local media station in your area that CARES for its locals.

If you can find a media station that is hardcore for it's local community and you can do a take on this as for example ----> Look what's happening to our town, our people etc... Then hopefully as it hits local news it will spread from there.

Get the local community involved....


GL

My office is 2 floors above EA's office (I'm in Montreal). Maybe I could drop a word about it or something.

Originally Posted by HellMaX

My office is 2 floors above EA's office (I'm in Montreal). Maybe I could drop a word about it or something.

WOW now that is great.

The best approach of course is good diplomacy, as in hopefully your company and theirs has a relationship of any kind, or at least mutal respect for each other. Use this to your advantage.

ALOHA

how to make the news:

Step 1: make a blog.
Step 2: you are now on cnn

I want to stress on what Riddlinkidstoner mentions about open boxes.

Consider this for a moment. Do you think that EA games is ignorant to story policies over returning open software boxes?

If they deliberately kept this information off the outside the boxes in an attempt to manipulate getting greater sales in fear of this information on the outside of a box and what it might do to sales, then this possibly might be looked upon as an illegal attempt at fraud.

There is no mention of this on the outside of a box, and most companies once you open a box and try to return will not give you a refund. They only exchange for the same item if it was defective, not just because you don't like it.

You're being sold something you don't know about until it's to late, and that is not good and can be the real issue here.

ALOHA

I would love to hear how this game fairs in Norway, because did you know they outlawed any form of advertisment to children, and with a game pumping out ads I don't think they'll be able to sell it there.

I don't think we realise this, but this is exploitation on the youth that play this game, and that is totaly wrong!

Exploitation here could form a real lawsuit.

ALOHA

I'm telling my friends who are interested not to buy it. I don't have the time or the energy to "fight" EA. Are there any consumer protection groups that you could contact? They would have lawyers and "ins" with the media to get this more exposure.