Viewsonic VX2025wm arrived! First impressions and pics

Allright all, I know some of you have been excited to know about the new 20" VX2025wm from Viewsonic. I know I have, especially after my fuck fest with Dell's monitors the last month.

I picked up this badboy from Newegg for $439 which is pretty dang good deal for a new ViewSonic monitor. Here is a link to its main page.

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...ries/vx2025wm/

I swung home during lunch after FedeX dropped it off to my landlord and I went right away to rip open the box. I"ll let the pictures do the talking
After a month of Dell Hell, lets give Viewsonics new girl a try....


Good looking design..me likey!


Awesome cable managment idea!


All other LCD makers, take note


Some initial gaming impressions *Note, Digital camera washed out screen a bit, its MUCH more darker and truer color then the pic shows*



Good, clean and VERY sharp image


Far Cry never looked so good. Beautiful greens, *again, camera washed out colors due to sceen and sunlight screwing it up*


Backlighting: Tough to tell but blacks really good from what I can see. I need to verify backlight bleeding when its dark out, the makes it impossibe to tell with the sun out. Further updates to come

Sharpness: Razor sharp. Period. My desktop looks so nice and crisp its unreal, even the Dell didn't do it this good.

Ghosting/Blurring: Initial testing shows very light ghosting in very fast movement, mostly in HL2 Deatmatch. The screen may also be still cold from Fedex so further testing is need. So far, so good.

Colors: Something viewsonic has always done well and the VX2025wm is no exception. A few little tweaks with the easy to use Viewsonic menu and easy button interface made colors so real and true. Can't wait to do some photoshop and Priemiere with it!

ScreenDoor: Heard intital impressions here and at widescreen forums about screendoor effect. Quick initial testing through MY EYES shows little to none. I need to more playing with BF2 and fast paced gaming to verify this. So far, nothing to be concered and CRAP loads better then Dells 20005FWP

First inital frowning: No highth adjustment. I knew this from the start when buying it but the monitor sits pretty low in stock form. No rotation ability either. Dissapointing coming from Dells or other Viewsonic monitors. Will probably have to get some kinda stand for it to sit up higher. Portrait and picky LCD people, BE WARNED!!

LCD input lag: Im only putting this in to put to ease the 2405FPW whiners. From my early tests, I can sense no input lag. I will continue testing to verify this.

AntiGlare coating: Does its job well but does make image somewhat fuzzy, nothing worth bitching about though.

Viewing Angles: Again, hard to tell with daylight sun but so far, real good side to side and good up and down. Crap loads better then the red hued Dell 2005fpw

Initial quality tests: Pixel buddy confirms, No dead pixels. Wooo hooo!!!!! Thank God!

I will continue testing and give updates as I use the monitor after work tonight. Stay tuned, I think Viewsonic may have a winner!

Congrats! Nice monitor.

nice review. but what exactly is screen door effect?

Originally Posted by steveng

nice review. but what exactly is screen door effect?

http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/video/screendoor.htm

Very cool, and an impressive price.

Coldtronius -

Hey thanks for the great first impressions and I'm glad to hear the screendoor effect doesn't appear to be a problem. Maybe I *do* have a viable alternative to Dell after all.

Question -- can you please (pretty please) try non-native resolutions below 1680x1050? Does the monitor internally scale them up? I've had my eye on this monitor for awhile but that's the burning question for me.

How are the internal color adjustments? If I hook an Xbox 360 up via VGA cable, I'll have to max out the color levels to compensate for the VGA cable's "wash out" effect, so I suppose that's important too.

Thanks!

Just to let everyone know, according to flatpanels.dk, the VX2025wm has a S-IPS display.

ViewSonic VX2025wm (widescreen) har et 20 tommer 8 ms (g2g) S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel.

NEC LCD20WGX2 (widescreen) har et 20 tommer 6 ms (g2g) S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel.

This is the same LG S-IPC panel that is in the new NEC LCD20WGX2. In the US it is known as the 20WMGX2. To me, this makes this Viewsonic to be a very desirable panel. For one, behardware.com reviewed the NEC LCD20WGX2, and found it to be very good for gaming (http://www.behardware.com/articles/6...a-2-ms-tn.html), as fast as a TN panel. Also, since it is an IPS panel, you know it will have great color reproduction, so this would be an ideal choice for photoediting and other graphic work (unlike a TN panel). Only problem I see with the Viewsonic is that it does not seem to have HDCP support, unlike the US NEX 20WMGX2 (see http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...p_lcd_roundup/). On the other hands, the NEX retails for like $800, so the viewsonic is nearly 1/2 the price for the same panel.

Differences between the NEC 20WMGX2 and Viewsonic:
- NEC has a feature called Advanced DV which supposedly boosts the contrast ration from 700:1 to 1600:1 by altering brightness based on what is being displayed on the screen
-NEC has s-video, component, and rca inputs
-NEC has a glossy type screen (do not know if this is an advantage or disadvantage, depends on your preference I guess)
-NEC has HDCP

Here is another link to a good NEC review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_20wgx2.htm

Overall, sounds to me like the XV2025wm could turn out to be a fantastic monitor. I wish it had HDCP.

Ross

Originally Posted by sanitystream

Coldtronius -

Hey thanks for the great first impressions and I'm glad to hear the screendoor effect doesn't appear to be a problem. Maybe I *do* have a viable alternative to Dell after all.

Question -- can you please (pretty please) try non-native resolutions below 1680x1050? Does the monitor internally scale them up? I've had my eye on this monitor for awhile but that's the burning question for me.

How are the internal color adjustments? If I hook an Xbox 360 up via VGA cable, I'll have to max out the color levels to compensate for the VGA cable's "wash out" effect, so I suppose that's important too.

Thanks!

Initiall, when I first started up the screen automatically scalled 1076x768 to fill the entire screen and it didn't look that bad to be honest. I'll do more testing


MAJOR UPDATE:

Unlike Dells' monitors, even connected via DVI, the 2025vm allows full contrast, brightness and color adjustment as well as tempature settings. Viewsonics monitor have always had easy to use interface and the 2025wm is no different. Simply pressing the buttons on the bottom allows full use and adjustment of the monitor. The buttoms are nice and sturdy with good feedback, they don't feel cheap.

The VX2025wm also DOES NOT have HDCP complance. No big deal for me since I don't care about HD or Blue ray playing on my PC but your demands may vary.

Originally Posted by rek981

Just to let everyone know, according to flatpanels.dk, the VX2025wm has a S-IPS display.

ViewSonic VX2025wm (widescreen) har et 20 tommer 8 ms (g2g) S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel.

NEC LCD20WGX2 (widescreen) har et 20 tommer 6 ms (g2g) S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel.

This is the same LG S-IPC panel that is in the new NEC LCD20WGX2. In the US it is known as the 20WMGX2. To me, this makes this Viewsonic to be a very desirable panel. For one, behardware.com reviewed the NEC LCD20WGX2, and found it to be very good for gaming (http://www.behardware.com/articles/6...a-2-ms-tn.html), as fast as a TN panel. Also, since it is an IPS panel, you know it will have great color reproduction, so this would be an ideal choice for photoediting and other graphic work (unlike a TN panel). Only problem I see with the Viewsonic is that it does not seem to have HDCP support, unlike the US NEX 20WMGX2 (see http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...p_lcd_roundup/). On the other hands, the NEX retails for like $800, so the viewsonic is nearly 1/2 the price for the same panel.

Differences between the NEC 20WMGX2 and Viewsonic:
- NEC has a feature called Advanced DV which supposedly boosts the contrast ration from 700:1 to 1600:1 by altering brightness based on what is being displayed on the screen
-NEC has s-video, component, and rca inputs
-NEC has a glossy type screen (do not know if this is an advantage or disadvantage, depends on your preference I guess)
-NEC has HDCP

Here is another link to a good NEC review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_20wgx2.htm

Overall, sounds to me like the XV2025wm could turn out to be a fantastic monitor. I wish it had HDCP.

Ross

does Vx922 and vx924 use the same panel as vx2025? I compared NEC 90GX2 and Vx924 side by side yesterday. the color on 90gx2 was more viberant and vivid. I think vx2025 uses MVA panel and same as vx922.

Originally Posted by rek981

Just to let everyone know, according to flatpanels.dk, the VX2025wm has a S-IPS display.

ViewSonic VX2025wm (widescreen) har et 20 tommer 8 ms (g2g) S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel.

NEC LCD20WGX2 (widescreen) har et 20 tommer 6 ms (g2g) S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel.

This is the same LG S-IPC panel that is in the new NEC LCD20WGX2. In the US it is known as the 20WMGX2. To me, this makes this Viewsonic to be a very desirable panel. For one, behardware.com reviewed the NEC LCD20WGX2, and found it to be very good for gaming (http://www.behardware.com/articles/6...a-2-ms-tn.html), as fast as a TN panel. Also, since it is an IPS panel, you know it will have great color reproduction, so this would be an ideal choice for photoediting and other graphic work (unlike a TN panel). Only problem I see with the Viewsonic is that it does not seem to have HDCP support, unlike the US NEX 20WMGX2 (see http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...p_lcd_roundup/). On the other hands, the NEX retails for like $800, so the viewsonic is nearly 1/2 the price for the same panel.

Differences between the NEC 20WMGX2 and Viewsonic:
- NEC has a feature called Advanced DV which supposedly boosts the contrast ration from 700:1 to 1600:1 by altering brightness based on what is being displayed on the screen
-NEC has s-video, component, and rca inputs
-NEC has a glossy type screen (do not know if this is an advantage or disadvantage, depends on your preference I guess)
-NEC has HDCP

Here is another link to a good NEC review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_20wgx2.htm

Overall, sounds to me like the XV2025wm could turn out to be a fantastic monitor. I wish it had HDCP.

Ross

Really? Hmmm that monitor sounds tasty but I dunno about forking over $800 for that, I could get a 24" for that size. Wonder when its coming out in the US

NEC 20WMGX20 available now.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=20wmgx2&btnG=Search

Ross

Wish it had a raisable stand.

I like my monitor higher than the VX series can go. I guess I could get an arm.

Originally Posted by steveng

does Vx922 and vx924 use the same panel as vx2025? I compared NEC 90GX2 and Vx924 side by side yesterday. the color on 90gx2 was more viberant and vivid. I think vx2025 uses MVA panel and same as vx922.

VX922 and VX924 use 6-bit TN panels. TN panels are fast, but only have 16.2 million colors (as opposed to the 16.7 of 8-bit panels) and poor viewing angles. Therefore, TN panels are not ideal for photo editing or other color crucial applications. On the other hand, IPS is ideal for such applications.

Ross

Originally Posted by rek981

NEC 20WMGX20 available now.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=20wmgx2&btnG=Search

Ross

Meh, no reliable dealers like Newegg or ZipZoom. Plus, twice as much...grrr thats painful.

Originally Posted by Coldtronius

Meh, no reliable dealers like Newegg or ZipZoom. Plus, twice as much...grrr thats painful.

fry's has it for 749 after rebate

Originally Posted by steveng

fry's has it for 749 after rebate

Saw that, but its not the black version.

Damnit....what to do, my credit cards melting already.

Originally Posted by rek981

VX922 and VX924 use 6-bit TN panels. TN panels are fast, but only have 16.2 million colors (as opposed to the 16.7 of 8-bit panels) and poor viewing angles. Therefore, TN panels are not ideal for photo editing or other color crucial applications. On the other hand, IPS is ideal for such applications.

Ross

i just suspected that vx2025 use s-ips panel

Coldtronius, for your own sake, never use the term "badboy" to describe anything.

Again, here is further investigation into the monitor


Angle viewing. Not terrible bad, I dunno how many people view their monitor this extreme though





I still fail to see any real problem with "screen door effect" even close up



WARNING ALERT!!
Sadly, Im afraid I ran into Viewsonics continuially problem with corner backlight bleeding. It was the main reason I returned the VP930b. Now it looks like this also suffers the same fate...

I can notice a little SDE on your pics, but perhaps it's just the way they came out. That backlight bleed doesn't look too awfully terrible, but not real great either. I don't think it would bother me that much,