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Old 03-13-2010, 02:32 PM
Karl_Ritter [H] News Editor, 7 Months
 
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Google to Shut Down Search Engine In China

The battle between search engine giant Google and the Government of China to allow freedom for its users in China has not surprisingly gone awry.

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Talks with China over censorship have reached an apparent impasse and Google, the world’s largest search engine, is now “99.9 percent” certain to shut its Chinese search engine, the Financial Times said on Saturday. It said in a report on its website Google had drawn up detailed plans for closing its Chinese search engine.
No Google, even you can't bring freedom of speech to China.

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Old 03-13-2010, 02:34 PM
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:34 PM
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If they bring freedom of speech to China it will just turn into a big socialist nightmare. I mean look at America. Tsk tsk.
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:46 PM
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I told my lady friend last night that I was 99.9% sure I had pulled out. But you know, I'm not sure I really did.

I'm sure it will be the same with google.
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:52 PM
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This should be entertaining if it happens,
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Old 03-13-2010, 02:52 PM
Reimu Limp Gawd, 1.1 Years
 
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In before our resident Cuban that knows Communism there trumping how that China is still truly Red and isn't outright ultra-capitalistic

Honestly, Google really needs to think twice about operating in China for extended period. There have been enough prior instances, and established intent that Chinese government is conducting espionage against Google and other firms. This isn't the kind of environment that a corporation whose asset depends on protection of information and intellectual properties would like to be operate in.
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Old 03-13-2010, 03:07 PM
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GOOD! This will be fantastic if it happens.
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:34 PM
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Google will live in china, it will be just under a new name. I bet right now the employee of google china are maded a offer they can't refuse (no need for violence if money will do the job cleaner) and google execs are offer a one way plane ticket out of china.

I beat google source code is being copied as we speek.
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:43 PM
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Google will live in china, it will be just under a new name. I bet right now the employee of google china are maded a offer they can't refuse (no need for violence if money will do the job cleaner) and google execs are offer a one way plane ticket out of china.

I beat google source code is being copied as we speek.
What would be the consequence of China copying it and making something exactly like google? It seems to me China copies a lot of stuff without consequence.
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:59 PM
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Google should leave since they fire the first shot with their public stun that angry the Chinese Gov.

Google will have a hard time doing business in China from the moment they publicly announce pulling out.

Google is dead in China.

Good luck Baidu.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:11 PM
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What would be the consequence of China copying it and making something exactly like google? It seems to me China copies a lot of stuff without consequence.
What? You mean if China made a search engine? Baidu is a Chinese based search engine that censors its results heavily to be in accordance with Chinese law. They make a fortune. Not a Google size fortune...but who else does. BTW...Google.cn trailed Baidu for usage in China. The Chinese are actually pretty damn smart, they don't seem to give a fuck about Google and they really have no reason to. As a search engine goes, it's not exactly super impressive anymore, I think many still use it simply because it's what they are used to using.

Anyway, yeah...Google will likely be back in China in one form or another, they would be fools not to but the Chinese have no interest in making it easy for them. What would they gain by altering their policies just for Google? They have nothing to gain and much to lose. So eventually when Google gets tired of seeing a market exist without their finger in the pie they will change the tune they are singing.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:11 PM
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"Wercome, citizens of gleat Lepubric of China Revorution of Red Running Dog, to the best of all greatness Internets, the new super-lubricitous search engine Guugul!! Bealing armost no resembrance to the capitarist pig poo fleedom spewing failure Google, this will take all information given and send it stright to goverment porice, who will immediately arrest and kill any and all users daring enough to try to find truth."

Yep... They stole the source code... And put it right alongside the stolen XP source code.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:15 PM
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If they bring freedom of speech to China it will just turn into a big socialist nightmare. I mean look at America. Tsk tsk.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:39 PM
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In before our resident Cuban that knows Communism there trumping how that China is still truly Red and isn't outright ultra-capitalistic

Honestly, Google really needs to think twice about operating in China for extended period. There have been enough prior instances, and established intent that Chinese government is conducting espionage against Google and other firms. This isn't the kind of environment that a corporation whose asset depends on protection of information and intellectual properties would like to be operate in.
From that point of view they're one and the same, because of the people that operate them If you invent another form. It will still have problems. You forgot something. POWER.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:43 PM
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From that point of view they're one and the same, because of the people that operate them If you invent another form. It will still have problems. You forgot something. POWER.
Even more so. The U.S. was great not because it was a capitalist country. But because of its founding fathers and the changes they made to their society. Changes that are fading away thanks to those same people and POWER. So in my opinion you are looking at it from the wrong angle. I don't know if it is to go into an argument but thanks, you made me think about that and realize a very profound truth. America isn't great because of Capitalism, that's an after thought. America was great because of its origins. If those origins are forgotten, it won't matter whether they use Capitalism or Communism to control us. In the end it will be the same shit. Slavery.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:57 PM
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Even more so. The U.S. was great not because it was a capitalist country. But because of its founding fathers and the changes they made to their society. Changes that are fading away thanks to those same people and POWER. So in my opinion you are looking at it from the wrong angle. I don't know if it is to go into an argument but thanks, you made me think about that and realize a very profound truth. America isn't great because of Capitalism, that's an after thought. America was great because of its origins. If those origins are forgotten, it won't matter whether they use Capitalism or Communism to control us. In the end it will be the same shit. Slavery.
I'm sorry, but america is first great because of its vast amount of arable land and natural resources. Without that, we'd be a lot more like france. I don't mean to say that the principles of liberty and such aren't important, because they are... just that it's not what made america pretty much the most powerful country in the world.
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Old 03-13-2010, 11:01 PM
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I'm sorry, but america is first great because of its vast amount of arable land and natural resources. Without that, we'd be a lot more like france. I don't mean to say that the principles of liberty and such aren't important, because they are... just that it's not what made america pretty much the most powerful country in the world.
Uh, ok let me know if you think that being the greatest Empire in history kept Rome from Collapsing. I recommend you watch Food Inc, and/or reflect upon it. Argentina has also commendable lands and look where they are.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:55 AM
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I'm sorry, but america is first great because of its vast amount of arable land and natural resources. Without that, we'd be a lot more like france. I don't mean to say that the principles of liberty and such aren't important, because they are... just that it's not what made america pretty much the most powerful country in the world.
one word kills that argument

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Old 03-15-2010, 09:01 AM
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I believe it when I see it, Google seems good at talking the talk, now we want to see them walking the walk.
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Old 03-15-2010, 09:12 AM
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Google will live in china, it will be just under a new name.
Yahoo did the same thing, didn't they? They sold all but 39% of their shares to Alibaba Group in Japan and China in 2005. I'm thinking just so they don't tarnish their name "Yahoo" by having a Chinese presence.

It's no wonder they supported Google's threat to depart China. Then Alibaba (and Baidu) would get more users. lol
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