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Old 11-04-2009, 12:34 AM
sleepeeg3 2[H]4U, 5.7 Years
 
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Steve is right. If your job is effectively semi-skilled labor - start looking for something else. It will eventually be outsourced. The days of coasting and wasting your brain are over. If you want job security, apply yourself to something harder or look for something that can be only done locally and become an expert. Quit whining when $10/hr tech support jobs are outsourced to India, if they can give better value for the money. Wake up and realize minimum wage doesn't work in a global economy - how much you apply yourself determines how much you make.

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What I want to know: How can you be running an efficient business if you easily displaced 1200 works with 2 guys in India. That says way more about corporate bureaucracy than it does about out sourcing.
You misread it like I first did. 2 guys from India in tech support are supporting 1200 workers. The article does not say how many Americans they replaced. It could be 3, for all we know.
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:31 AM
AFTFNJ Limp Gawd, 2.6 Years
 
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USA is a mere skeleton remain of what the founding fathers founded...we are just degenerating carcass becoming a communist state.
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:39 AM
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USA is a mere skeleton remain of what the founding fathers founded...we are just degenerating carcass becoming a communist state.
you're not communist yet, my friend.

Socialistic, maybe, but not communistic,
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:01 AM
Azhar [H]ardness Supreme, 3.0 Years
 
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That dear Azhar is because you are not a Westener but yet you come here to the West to exploit its advantages and constantly bitch about its defects, and of course because you are completely convinced that the third world countries in the East won't ever raise by themselves unless they parasite the West. A very proper degraded motherly point of way where the West has to pay the rest of the world for its supposed sins that has come from the Christian culture.
Blaming the West entirely for the disgraces on the rest of the world is what has you like that on the first place. Even Obama said it to Kenyans in his visit." South Korea surpassed you in the last 15 years in Gross External production after their Civil war 50 years ago. Today you're still killing each other in tribal wars like you've done for at least, the last 4 centuries. The only difference is that you use modern weapons. That has to Stop. Stop blaming the West for your faults!!"
Where are you going to go to parasite once the West is drained and gone?
Born and raised, and still living in Chicago. Unlike you, I'm not so selfish that I want our great country to have all the glory for ourselves. You came from Cuba, right? So short a memory of what it's like back at home?
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:08 AM
Ibanezfoo Limp Gawd, 4.8 Years
 
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It may not be nice to us but stockholders love this stuff... and thats what American companies cater to. Screw the customers. Screw the employees. Investors need more money!
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:38 AM
Lebowski 2[H]4U, 9.2 Years
 
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Why couldn't we just outsource his job? He's obviously not good at it, and had to blame it on his workers.
Remember, if the company is doing good, it's because of superior management and leadership. If it's doing bad it's because the peon workers are useless pieces of shit that can be easily replaced.

What gets me is these companies keep out sourcing and then wonder why they aren't selling as much product/services. Hello dumb asses. You're taking the money you invest into your workers and sending it over seas. Now your former works have no money thus they can't buy your product or buy someone elses product and stimulate that company so their workers can buy your product.

I'm all for free market enterprise, but I think there is a flaw in the system when stock holders are more important than employees. If it means axing 1,000 people to raise the stock 5 cents, they'll do it. There is a fatal flaw in the system when the BoD for most companies are also the majority stock holders, as they can literally run the company into the ground, screw over all the employees and yet somehow still manage to rake in more cash than most people will see in their lifetime.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:31 PM
ajira99 [H]Lite, 3.7 Years
 
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Steve is right. If your job is effectively semi-skilled labor - start looking for something else. It will eventually be outsourced. The days of coasting and wasting your brain are over. If you want job security, apply yourself to something harder or look for something that can be only done locally and become an expert. Quit whining when $10/hr tech support jobs are outsourced to India, if they can give better value for the money. Wake up and realize minimum wage doesn't work in a global economy - how much you apply yourself determines how much you make.

You misread it like I first did. 2 guys from India in tech support are supporting 1200 workers. The article does not say how many Americans they replaced. It could be 3, for all we know.
Does it matter if it's 3 jobs or 3000? The fact is, this guy comes across as bragging about what happened -- "We were able to eliminate a whole bunch of actually U.S.-based jobs and kind of replace them with two folks out of India to serve a 1,200-person engineering organization," Marcello said.

I wonder what "a whole bunch" means in corporate-speak?
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:15 PM
djBon2112 [H]ardness Supreme, 3.3 Years
 
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USA is a mere skeleton remain of what the founding fathers founded...we are just degenerating carcass becoming a communist state.
Hardly. Typical Conservative FUD

Also, I agree with sleepeeg3 and Kyle. Like it or not, the US brought this mess on itself, by inviting the likes of WalMart & co. bringng cheap shit in from China. People want cheap shit.
Well, cheap shit means it has to be made in China/India/Mexico/etc. and that means outsourcing jobs. "Blue Collar" will be mostly gone in a couple decades.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:07 PM
Ibanezfoo Limp Gawd, 4.8 Years
 
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Hardly. Typical Conservative FUD
Hardly... When I have Russian friends going back to Russia claiming the U.S. is not what they believed, calling it too Communist and realizing Russians have more personal freedom...thats not FUD.
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