Look what i got in the mail today

[(cf)Eclipse]

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_87.jpg

512mb stick of pc3200 ballistix, 5b D chips. i'll try to get some quick results up by 12 ;)

[Double Jesus]

Hurry up!! :D

are those the same 5b D chips that go on their value, just hand picked?

[(cf)Eclipse]

yup, they are ;)
it's also the same stuff that goes into the 1gb pc4000 ballistix


here's some moderately tweaked, moderately stable 2-2-2 results. it scales like 3-4mhz per .1v, pretty typical of micron.

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_89.png

gonna work on 2.5-2-2 now


edit.. something weird. i'm memtest stable at 250mhz with 2.5-2-2, but i can't even get into windows over 230mhz. i would dig deeper into this right now, but i have no time :(

[Double Jesus]

sweet speeds at 2-2-2... too bad it's only a 512mb stick.

[jaded25]

Just got two of these sticks. I have no idea what I'm supposed to get for latency timings but here they are for me with two sticks

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/5980/untitled3fr.th.png (http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3fr.png)

I have no idea what I'm doing and these timing seem horrible. Was wondering what I'm doing wrong. My setup by the way is an nforce4 ultra (modded to SLI), athlon 64 3800+, obviously 2x512mb sticks of crucial ballistix memory.

::edit:: nevermind I found a guide to the memory divider and how to overlock with ahtlon 64's

[Intel_Inside]

Man, Ballistix is sweet RAM, I love mine :D

[(cf)Eclipse]

how does yours clock intel?
jaded.. .8TD like mine i would assume?

also, i'm home for thanksgiving break, won't be able to really do much of anything.. unless you count oc'ing on an asus a7n8x limited to 230mhz something ;)

[jaded25]

finally got the same speeds as yours eclipse just had to play around with the setttings. I don't know what mine clocks intel because I haven't tried it yet.

[(cf)Eclipse]

i was asking him how his clocks.. not how it clocks on an intel (or whatever you meant by the second part of your post :p)

also.. my asus a7n8x hates this ballistix... with a passion. needs 2.8v to run stable, but i can make it to the mobo limit (225mhz :rolleyes: ) with 2.5-2-2.. but only in the outermost memory slot. i need to get back to school.. hahaha

[Intel_Inside]

How does it clock? Well, running at 230FSB, but I have to run at loose goose timings. SPD timings which is 5-5-5-15. Love that RAM though!

[Dillusion]

Ah...I remember that days I had a GB of ballistix...

Me> Do 280mhz you pos
Ballistix> wtf no we dont clock that hi y0
Me> ok time to loosen timings
Ballistix> NOOO. now im gonna perform worse than tccd, just for that omg
PDP> wtf r u doing using crucial posstuff
Me> iono
PDP> here set my fsb to 300mhz and ill be stable4eva
ballistix> o shit

the end

[banGerprawN]

Ah...I remember that days I had a GB of ballistix...

Me> Do 280mhz you pos
Ballistix> wtf no we dont clock that hi y0
Me> ok time to loosen timings
Ballistix> NOOO. now im gonna perform worse than tccd, just for that omg
PDP> wtf r u doing using crucial posstuff
Me> iono
PDP> here set my fsb to 300mhz and ill be stable4eva
ballistix> o shit

the end Ahahaha...I actually chuckled out loud.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

Ah...I remember that days I had a GB of ballistix...

Me> Do 280mhz you pos
Ballistix> wtf no we dont clock that hi y0
Me> ok time to loosen timings
Ballistix> NOOO. now im gonna perform worse than tccd, just for that omg
PDP> wtf r u doing using crucial posstuff
Me> iono
PDP> here set my fsb to 300mhz and ill be stable4eva
ballistix> o shit

the end

that last part is a lie, you at first had ddr600 with 3-4-4-8, EWW! and after awhile of tweaking and a whole new mobo you finally got to ddr600 2.5-3-4 or 2.5-3-3 or 2.5-4-3 or one of those things.

and ballistix are good, they just need a fan and some loving.

[(cf)Eclipse]

a lot of loving and tweaking. it always threw me off when i had to tighten up a lot of the secondary timings to get my 5b G stable at lower mhz

also.. these ballistix + asus a7n8x = bad idea.
takes 2.8v to be stable, and only likes the outermost slot. i can easily max out the board with 2.5-2-2 though.. hahaha ;)

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

a lot of loving and tweaking. it always threw me off when i had to tighten up a lot of the secondary timings to get my 5b G stable at lower mhz

also.. these ballistix + asus a7n8x = bad idea.
takes 2.8v to be stable, and only likes the outermost slot. i can easily max out the board with 2.5-2-2 though.. hahaha ;)

im telling ya, if you sink up that southbridge and like, volt mod it or something, i dunno, or tweak timings, you might be able to get like 220 2-2-2-5.

[Dillusion]

im telling ya, if you sink up that southbridge and like, volt mod it or something, i dunno, or tweak timings, you might be able to get like 220 2-2-2-5.

So not worth it

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

So not worth it

agreed, but thats beyond the point. that board tops out at 220, so thats why i was saying 220 2-2-2-6

[(cf)Eclipse]

nah, i've tried, the board simply sucks. it's more than two years old anyway :p

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

nah, i've tried, the board simply sucks. it's more than two years old anyway :p

and its not even at your like fun rig. and age doesnt matter!

[(cf)Eclipse]

haha.. well it does matter. it used to be able to do ~235mhz. now it can barely get over 225mhz.. 4 more years until the thing probably craps it's pants at stock

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

haha.. well it does matter. it used to be able to do ~235mhz. now it can barely get over 225mhz.. 4 more years until the thing probably craps it's pants at stock

ohh man, funniest image EVER...a mobo crapping its pants. and a speech bubble popping up saying "ohh noo, ive soiled my trousers"

:D

[(cf)Eclipse]

hahahaha, something like that :p

the real problem is that if something goes wrong, my mom is gonna be the one to troubleshoot it. i'm not sure if she's quite astute enough to figure out that the mobo died when the computer starts randomly rebooting. i guess i'll have to give her my msi k8n neo + 3200+ clawhammer when that happens.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

hahahaha, something like that :p

the real problem is that if something goes wrong, my mom is gonna be the one to troubleshoot it. i'm not sure if she's quite astute enough to figure out that the mobo died when the computer starts randomly rebooting. i guess i'll have to give her my msi k8n neo + 3200+ clawhammer when that happens.

ohh man, if it were my mom, shed just kick the computer and say "ADAM QUIT THE DOWNLOADING!" shed say that even if i was at college and hadnt touched the computer in like 5 months.....Moms :rolleyes: :)

[(cf)Eclipse]

haha, my mom's cool.. at least she can figure out how to unplug the scanner and plug it back in when windows doesn't detect it properly :cool:

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

haha, my mom's cool.. at least she can figure out how to unplug the scanner and plug it back in when windows doesn't detect it properly :cool:

you mom pwns mine at computer knowledge. im surprised she can even turn on the monitor. :D

[Dillusion]

you mom pwns mine at computer knowledge. im surprised she can even turn on the monitor. :D

My mom calls every website yahoo and every computer is a dell, you both got me beat.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

My mom calls every website yahoo and every computer is a dell, you both got me beat.

hahahaha. you do have us both beat, by a long shot. :D

[(cf)Eclipse]

thought i'd bump this. remember how i ordered another stick to make a 5b D set? i'm unlucky in the best kind of sense?


http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_106.jpg


i saw that batch.. but then i saw the .16TG in the little sticker. it's a double sided 5b G stick. strange eh?

the bad news - my opteron won't boot with both sticks in
good news - this stick is liking 260mhz or more with 2.8v at 2.5-2-2 timings. definitly the best stick i've had my hands on yet

[Double Jesus]

sweeeeet!
too bad you can't run 2 sticks (or too bad that it's not a 1gb stick :D)

[(cf)Eclipse]

i've gonna talk to newegg though... two sticks that don't work together don't do me any good :(


edit: i'm enjoying this:

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_107.png

[Hvatum]

Some recent batches of Ballistix have given people trouble. Until recently I had a 2x1GB set which steadily got a lower and lower maximum clock until they couldn't even run stable at stock speeds. They were also running extremely hot even though I had a 120mm fan blowing directly on them.

I RMA'd and now I've got two OCZ Platinum DDR500 sticks running much cooler and much more stable. I'm not sure what the deal with recent Balllistix sets is but if you can I would RMA for another brand IMHO. If they work for you that's great though! :D

[(cf)Eclipse]

no offense, but you tell that to me of all people? ;)

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

did you just slander crucials name! YOU GOON! :eek: jk. but seriously now, me and ozzi need to trade ballistix. my D has a new friend today in the mail, mister G. and ozzis D has a friend mister G. so im sending my mister G to him and hes sending his D to me, so they will have friends, instead of rivals. :D

[(cf)Eclipse]

yes.. i do wish this opteron memory controller wasn't so picky sometimes :p

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

thats what you get for having 3ghz of performance! :p and loving sequential nibbles.

[Hvatum]

no offense, but you tell that to me of all people? ;)

Fair enough! I didn't match up your name with those earlier posts which alerted me to the problem in the first place. My OCZ Platinum is running nicely at 260 FSB though.
:D

[(cf)Eclipse]

yeah, i was tempted to buy that OCZ a while back, but i'm a crucial fan at heart, it'll be hard for me to change.

this might make you guys laugh though :cool:

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_109.jpg

in order from top to bottom:

2x256mb bh-5 (kingston hyper-x pc3200)
2x512mb utt-bh (ocz gold pc3500 GX)
2x512mb utt-ch (mushkin redline pc3200)
1x128mb micron 5b C (crucial value pc3200)
1x512mb 5b D (crucial ballistix pc3200)
2x512mb 5b G (crucial ballistix pc3200)


the redlines are the only one of all those that don't break 250mhz :(

[Hvatum]

yeah, i was tempted to buy that OCZ a while back, but i'm a crucial fan at heart, it'll be hard for me to change.

this might make you guys laugh though :cool:

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_109.jpg

in order from top to bottom:

2x256mb bh-5 (kingston hyper-x pc3200)
2x512mb utt-bh (ocz gold pc3500 GX)
2x512mb utt-ch (mushkin redline pc3200)
1x128mb micron 5b C (crucial value pc3200)
1x512mb 5b D (crucial ballistix pc3200)
2x512mb 5b G (crucial ballistix pc3200)


the redlines are the only one of all those that don't break 250mhz :(

Did you by any chance rob the Newegg warehouse? :p

I'm really surprised/dissapointed that the Redline set doesn't break the mid-two hundred barrier. I haven't presonally bought Mushkin recently but in the past they've always been great overclockers. Even the Crucial value breaks 250! :confused:

[(cf)Eclipse]

the crucial value actually has a shot at 265mhz with 2.5-2-2 timings somewhere on my computer :eek:
that second to last stick of ballistix (the one i got most recently) is in my computer right now, i'm doing stability testing at 290mhz ;)

but yeah, i dunno what's up with the redlines.. they're actually ccu's, he told me to test em out cause he was having serious issues with memtest, but i'm having problems too. we're currently trying to work out a solution for those problems :(

[M3at]

http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_87.jpg

512mb stick of pc3200 ballistix, 5b D chips. i'll try to get some quick results up by 12 ;)


Hey Eclipse, how do I tell if my ballistix are the 5b D chips?

[(cf)Eclipse]

see the white sticker on that stick? .8TD = 8 chips of 5b D

[M3at]

doh - 16TD

[(cf)Eclipse]

oh, the 1gb sticks are all 5b D, because they're 64mb chips, 16 of them (double sided) makes 1024mb. if you used 5b G, you'd need 32 chips which isn't really very feasible ;)

[Double Jesus]

heh, not with that attitude ;)

what voltage do you use to get the crucial value up in the 250s eclipse? I haven't really tried feeding mine more volts yet...

[(cf)Eclipse]

the my 1gb stick needed 2.9v at 3-3-3 to do 263mhz superPI 32m stable, but i don't have that stick anymore :(
the 128mb stick needed 3.4v to get a 265mhz screen at 2.5-2-2, but max stable was around 250mhz with ~3.2v

[(cf)Eclipse]

kinda a bump for a two of reasons.

1 - i got 300mhz stable at 2.8v:

http://www.eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_110.png



2- CCU has my D now, and has popped the speaders on both sticks.
his, which was bought in mid-july, has 0524 and 0526 chips.. curious that the batch is mixed eh?
mine, which i got 2 weeks ago, is onlt 2-4 weeks later, with a consisitant 0528
http://www.sourcekills.com/albums/The-Illest-and-Realest-Photos-EVER%21/100_0992.jpg
http://www.sourcekills.com/albums/The-Illest-and-Realest-Photos-EVER%21/100_0994.jpg
http://www.sourcekills.com/albums/The-Illest-and-Realest-Photos-EVER%21/100_0995.jpg
http://www.sourcekills.com/albums/The-Illest-and-Realest-Photos-EVER%21/100_0996.jpg

i should be getting CCU's G on friday, and i'll have time to play with it over the weekend :cool:

[RaDeonXtreme]

Hey Eclipse, how do I tell if my ballistix are the 5b D chips?

So it would be best to run 1gb of ballistix(which is 5b D right) or 2 512mb 5b D?
I am gonna buy some ballistix soon but dont know which to go for.

[(cf)Eclipse]

i prefer G over D, but G won't always be what you get. if you had to pick between 2x512mb sticks of D and a 1gb stick.. if you only wanted 1gb total and you have a dual channel rig, it should be obvious :D

also, something interesting... leave your spreaders on the ballistix unless you plan on putting actual ramsinks on, as i lost a few mhz that came back when i put the spreaders back on.. and yes, i'm actively cooled. this might change my whole outlook on heatspreaders :p

[ninjastyle]

Just to confirm -- my 2 x 512 MB PC3200 both have .16TG at the end. These are double-sided G die sticks, right?

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

yup, they are

[ninjastyle]

Thanks bro.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

no problem. those sticks should do very good. -5b G is a good clocking ic, as ozzi has shown everyone.

[(cf)Eclipse]

yup, i just got ccu's stick about 15 min ago.. looks to be clocking almost exactly the same as my other G stick! :cool:

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

and mine seems to be clockin like crap! wonderful! i need a new mobo.

[(cf)Eclipse]

when's that abit showing up? :p

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

in due time sir. in due time. on another subject, when are my reds and golds coming!

[(cf)Eclipse]

soon enough ;)
we'll find someone who'll trade up some tccd for it eventually.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

or just give us some ;)

[(cf)Eclipse]

we can try to work that angle too.. hahaha

[jebatzel]

If anyone wants to get some of this fast ram newegg has a promo for it now.

PROMOCODE CRUCIALRULES

I think this is how it works

"YOU MUST PURCHASE A PRODUCT OF $30.00 OR GREATER TO USE THIS PROMOTIONAL CODE."

prices expire 3/31/06

[truflip]

the picture says its an 8TD.. are those the single sided rams?

[(cf)Eclipse]

the picture says its an 8TD.. are those the single sided rams?
the first stick is, yes. the 2nd stick is double sided