FEAR or FarCry:Which is better? Why?

[davidj]

Which game did you like better and what makes one game better than the other one. For example:gameplay, immersion, physics, graphics, sp, mp, the characters. one makes for better benchmarking, etc.


Well it seems that FEAR has created quite an uproar very similiar to FarCry. I cannot even compare FEAR to HL2 but I think a comparison to FarCry would be considered fair interms of an unknown title becoming a blockbuster and kicking the rump of some old time favs.

[Archaea]

Far Cry for the Win.

Fear's graphics aren't as impressive at this time as Far Cry's were two years ago.

Fear is Max Payne's engine revamped and updated....there isn't a single game that had the breadth, and draw distance, georgeous maps, technology of Far Cry. Far Cry, even now will still draw oh's and ah's when you're playing.

[Lazy_Moron]

Far Cry for the Win.

Fear's graphics aren't as impressive at this time as Far Cry's were two years ago.

Fear is Max Payne's engine revamped and updated....there isn't a single game that had the breadth, and draw distance, georgeous maps, technology of Far Cry. Far Cry, even know will still draw oh's and ah's when you're playing.

QFT

I just got Far Cry for the first time about 2 months ago. Still to this day, I say its has one of the best graphics out there. And this game is 2 years old. And now, the new Crytek Engine is looking really great. And there is one thing in Far Cry that impressed me, and that was the draw distances.

[WhyYouLoveMe]

I say FarCry because I felt "more immersed" in its universe. I'm not saying FEAR isn't immersive, but not on the level that FarCry was. Also 'cause of the graphics "punch". FarCry WAS more impressive to see 2 years ago and FEAR doesn't have the same effect right now. I also enjoyed the vehicles in FarCry. That was a nice diversion from all-out FPS-time.

[Jesus_Faction]

i honestly never saw what was so great about far cry
so i voted fear

[mcravenufo]

FarCry. The only FPS that I have replayed.

[Arkanian]

Far Cry because you could go anywhere and do anything. the Universe is HUGE and I felt like I was actually in this game. To this day Far Cry is the only game that I have felt that way before.

[Heligrin]

I still to this day still play FarCry. The graphics are so immersive and breathtaking everytime you play. If you get a comp that run it smoothly it is so enjoyable. Crawling through the trees with a M4 or using a sniper rifle and being able to zoom so far away and make it look incredibly realistic is very very enjoyable. But one thing that i LOVE is when you submerge into the water. The detail of the sea floor along with the graphics of the water makes for a pleasurable gaming experience. Fear is just doom3 with better graphics more lightning and a matrix touch. FarCry is the best FPS i have played that still draws me into everytime i go back and play.

CSS is on a diff level :D

[kelbear]

I enjoyed FEAR more, I didn't even make it to the end of Far Cry before getting bored. But I gotta admit that while I enjoyed FEAR more, Far Cry impressed me more. The Far Cry expansion looks like it'll bring exactly the sort of thing that would have compelled me to the finish the game. My vote goes to Far Cry.

[ManCannon]

FEAR.

I love FarCry, but FEAR has better AI, the most intense firefights I've ever experienced, and a much more compelling story.

FarCry has terrible voice acting, whereas FEAR has pretty decent voice acting. FarCry also has a b-movie plot, and while FEAR's story isn't going to be winning any awards it had me a lot more interested than FarCry's.

Each game does certain things well, but for me FEAR has been a slightly more satisfying experience.

[Brent_Justice]

FEAR because the AI is very impressive and it scared the hell out of me, I really felt "in the game".

[Minishark]

I think each game was great, but I'd say FarCry is better than FEAR overall. True, FEAR did have better AI, and at times FarCry's AI was frustrating. Normally, this in itself would be enough for me to choose FEAR.
However, when I was playing FarCry, and sneaking through the jungle hiding from the AI in the dark, it hit me that I was playing a really great game. I never got that feeling from FEAR. The AI was almost too good, as in there was almost no stealth element because as soon as you peeked your head around any corner you had 5 guys on your ass within seconds. Sure, the bullet time was cool, but beyond that it was fairly standard. The level design was two steps backwards, whereas FarCry had amazing outdoor environments. 90% of the enemies were exactly the same, and while FarCry had you killing mercs more than anything else, it never got old like the enemies in FEAR did.

[Akuma]

FEAR by far.
AI alone is worth it.
There is also the cool combat (slowmo)
spooky atmosphere
great storyline


Far Cry is so over rated. Not fun at all once you get to the Tridgen, IMO.

[beanman101283]

I went with FEAR because i'm overall having more fun than i did with FarCry. I had a really hard time with FarCry and still haven't beaten since i bought it a year ago. With FEAR it's difficult but not overly frustrating and has a better story. I agree that FarCry is more visually impressive overall, but FEAR's gameplay, atmosphere, and AI make it the better game IMHO.

[davidj]

I enjoyed FarCry more myself. What is a mystery to me is why more games don't use the Crytek game engine? It was so spectacular imho. Maybe there are some that I am unaware of.

When FarCry was considered new, at that time it was THE software to use to test your rig. Now it looks like fear will be given that same label. Maybe Q4 will get some of the same attention but we have to see what happends.

I do think that FEAR is the game of the moment if you will and it has earned it in the opinion of many.

If FarCry does have a PC expansion or sequel I will be one of the 1st to pre-order.

[pureevilmatt]

gameplay > tie
immersion > far cry
physics > fear
graphics > fear
graphical impact at time of release > farcry
single player fun > tie
story > fear
mp fun > far cry
benchmarking > fear

Far Cry was at least a 10+ hour game. Fear is just over 4 hours.
Both games are good. But I don't think I'll still be playing Fear in 2 years time, whereas I still have Far Cry installed to this day.

Far Cry wins.

[HighwayAssassins]

Far Cry for the Win.

Fear's graphics aren't as impressive at this time as Far Cry's were two years ago.

Fear is Max Payne's engine revamped and updated....there isn't a single game that had the breadth, and draw distance, georgeous maps, technology of Far Cry. Far Cry, even know will still draw oh's and ah's when you're playing.
QFT. Couldnt have said it better, my thoughts exactly...i am not voting in this poll yet because i havent beaten the game...but all signs are pointing to Far Cry.

[Nuzzles]

gameplay > tie
immersion > far cry
physics > fear
graphics > fear
graphical impact at time of release > farcry
single player fun > tie
story > fear
mp fun > far cry
benchmarking > fear

Far Cry was at least a 10+ hour game. Fear is just over 4 hours.
Both games are good. But I don't think I'll still be playing Fear in 2 years time, whereas I still have Far Cry installed to this day.

Far Cry wins.


Are you serious?! 4 hours?!

Freakin' hell...

[Akuma]

FEAR is not 4 hours. That is such bullshit. I rushed through the first time (unfortunately) and still it took over 8 hours.

[Moose777]

I'm undecided. They are both really great games. I'm torn because of Far Cry's graphics and enviroment and Fear's AI.

IMO, Far Cry's AI like it has been said before was weak. The enemies to me got old rather quick. Now, Fear also reuses the same enemies but at least with Fear the enemy technically has no face. Where as Far Cry's enemies all had the same faces.

Fear Has the story and AI.

Far Cry has the graphics.

I think right now I'm enjoying Fear more than Far Cry.

Now, if they could take the story and characters of Fear and set them in the jungle with Far Cry's graphics and enviroments that'd be awesome. Although, the story doesn't fit in the jungle it lends itself well to an urban setting. Hence the reason why Fear is set mostly indoors.

Like I said. I'm torn.

[the block]

i liked far cry

[ATIIsBetter]

Not that i read every single post but... i see no mention of the a64 patch... that really helps the game out alot if you pack a 64 bit proc :cool:

[rowbear62468]

i thought far cry was great until the mutants came in, thats where i started to lose interest. the vehicles were great, and the scenery was far better and more varied than fear. but, i love fear for the visceral experience of it. in the end, each has there good points and maybe, someday in the future, if we all really believe, in our heart of hearts, some game designers will get together and turn to the past and look at what made games good. and maybe, just maybe, they will pull the heads out of thier collective asses and put that all together. hl2 did a half (no pun intended) way decent job of putting these thing together. it certainly was not a perfect game. much like far cry and fear, it to had its good and bad points. but, we can only dream... dream a little dream, of game designers who listen and learn... sigh... ok, let the hate begin

[Switch]

Fear is great... Farcry is greater... I have re-re-re-re-replayed Farcry and hell i still love playing it... I havent beaten fear uptil now but what i realize that Farcry had an option to complte level in 3/4 differnt ways... FEAR has a great story and is definately creepy with a damm smart AI but i still dont see it at the same level as Farcry...

The re-playbility of Farcry just does it for me...

[pureevilmatt]

I exaggerated when I said Fear was only 4 hours. It was probably closer to 5 or 6. I did do a lot of quicksaving/reloading though trying to beat a couple really hard scenarios. And I didn't blaze through the game either, I listened to every phone message/laptop clue, and I got almost all of the health/reflex boosters. The game was short, but that's not to say it's a bad thing. I'd rather it be sorta short and good than overly long drawn out and boring like say, SOF2.

I wonder how hard it would be to add a mod to Far Cry that increases the game speed a bit and adds bullet time effects like those in FEAR. That would definitely make me want to replay it again.

[koneko]

FEAR by far. Farcry has better graphics, but that doesn't make it a better game. FEAR was more immersive, for me, and the story/AI and gameplay felt better. But then again I thought Farcry was overrated anyway, something about it just didn't work for me.

[btf1980]

FEAR is not 4 hours dude, get off it. :rolleyes:

[BadONE]

Far Cry is better, has more immersion, vehicles, indoor+beautiful outdoor levels, story is a matter of taste, but I like a protagonist with distinct personality more and hear him say some words now and then, and satisfyingly hard on realistic difficulty setting

Fear: still a great game but ..

- far too much health packs in the game, even on " extremely difficult"

- should have done it in the war Far Cry did, i.e. you can't store health packs, I'm always running around with 6+ health packs - takes away a lot from being truly "FEARful"

- should have included an option for non-lamers i.e. no quick save option please.

[Genocidal[v2]]

Farcry had more varied levels, indoors and outdoors, but other then that it has nothing over FEAR. I uninstalled Farcry after beating it once and haven't looked back since, on the other hand I can see myself playing through FEAR multiple times along with online play.

Farcry was pretty much just a tech demo game like Doom 3.

[Steel Chicken]

I liked both for different reasons.
FarCry was amazing for its time. Awesome graphics, decent everything else. I played once, and then uninstalled.

FEAR is groundbreaking to me. Immersiveness, emotional impact, excellent story. Graphics are nice too, although not as OMG as farcry was.

4 hours? WTF, pull an extra turd out your ass did ya?

[magoo]

FarCry is prettier.
FEAR is intense on a different level but not as pretty.
FEAR has the big armored guys, FarCry has the big Trigen guys.
Ive played FarCry a bunch and still enjoy it.
Im not done with FEAR yet....and Ive played alot longer than 4 hours.

FEAR has pretty neat music.
But I voted for FarCry based on the age of the game and how it is still out there as a gold standard for graphics and immersion. :D

[Steel Chicken]

Im not getting the immersion of FarCry. Your just some guy running around killing stuff. Immersion = original half life, immersion = System Shock 2, immersion = FEAR where you think YOURE in the game, not just playing some guy. I never said "oh shit" in far cry, or "wow, thats fricken cool" other than looking at the pretty graphics.

[Roberty]

Far Cry for the win !!

Far Cry still looks fantastic two years after it was released and the replay value is second to none. It's the first FPS that I've ever wanted to replay - and I've replayed it several times through. Now, if they will just come out with a sequel I'd be a happy camper.

[Json23]

I think the gameplay in FEAR is a LOT more fun and rewarding that Far Cry.

But as far as visuals go, the beautiful thing about far cry was that you didn't need a super machine to still have good visuals.

FEAR on the other hand looks really horrible on low end machines. however, on my better rig, it looks awesome.

But I am betting not everyone has a great machine to make FEAR look anything close to what Far Cry can do on the same machine.

FEAR has better enemy AI and enemies, and high end visuals, but Far Cry has better low end performance and detailed levels.

[Killer69]

I voted Far Cry, simply because I was impressed with its graphics and gameplay on my TI4600. I'd love to see it played on something better.

I don't think FEAR will even run on my system. :(

[sKiDmArK]

I will admit that FEAR is the best FPS I've played since Far Cry (I wasn't a big fan of D3 or HL2), but Far Cry just has an edge IMO.

I'm still not all the way through FEAR yet so my opinion could change, but overall I really am enjoying it so far. Very intense, and the gun fights are insane.

[Aelfgeft]

They were both so damn good. However, I'm a gamer, and any true gamer's vote has to be for FEAR just because of the advanced AI that really make it a true challenge. Far Cry was close (hell, I was amazed that for once the bots couldn't see through cover!) but FEAR's bots are just craftier than hawg shit, FTW. :D

[Obi_Kwiet]

I don't know why people think FEAR looked good. It just runs terribly. It uses bump mapping a bit too much, (HL2 uses Bump mapping just right) The only good thing about FEAR it's it lighting, which is I must admit amazing. However, over all even HL2 seemed to have nicer graphics than fear. HL2 was much better inside and at urban areas than Far Cry, while Far Cry was much better at outside environments. This is to be expected, as the engines were designed with two different things in mind.

Oh, man I just has a thought. Wouldn't CryTech engine 2 be a really good engine for Crimson Skies 2?

[Sgt Hobo]

This is a hard one.

Far Cry:

Before this game came out, I was wondering why more FPS games didn't have jungle levels. Lo and behold, Far Cry came out. When I tried the demo out, I was very impressed with its graphics and the draw distance. I still remember being blown away by the fact that I could kill a man from 600 meters away. The A.I. was pretty good to me but nothing really extraordinary. I did like how they tried to flank me though. The trigens on the other hand were awesome and really scared me. The story wasn't too spectacular.

F.E.A.R.:

The best part of F.E.A.R. for me would definitely be the A.I. I keep saying that F.E.A.R.'s A.I. is second to none right now. The enemies are vicious, aggressive and tactical all at the same time. My most recent session had me watching my back for surprise attacks. The graphics weren't the best I've seen but they weren't the worst either. I still consider the melee combat system one of the best innovations in the FPS genre in a while so that's a major plus. The story of F.E.A.R. kept me intrigued the whole time to the point where it motivated me to finish the game.

Gameplay -- F.E.A.R.
A.I. -- F.E.A.R.
Graphics -- Far Cry
Level design -- Far Cry
Story -- F.E.A.R.

My choice: Far Cry.

Reason: Despite how much I love F.E.A.R., the lack of variety in the levels and the level design cost F.E.A.R. my vote. Sorry F.E.A.R.

[Majin]

First Off... Sgt. Hobo, that was well laid out! :)

I heard about FarCry about 1.5 years before it came out, (Guy I knew left Natural Selection Dev team to join CryTek) and I knew I wanted to get it from what I knew (very little at the time). When It came out and I got the Water to work :p I was blown away by the game.
Best looking Water and enviroments I had ever seen, not to mention the draw distance, WOW. Farcry changed the gaming world, it became the new benchmark for games to follow as far as things like Water apperance were concerned.

FEAR has done the same thing. It may not be the best looking game ever, but that is really over shadowed by it's amazing Particle effects and Superior A.I. This game is the new benchmark when it comes to A.I. Scripted A.I. like in Quake 4 just wont cut it anymore. Just like Farcry made it so that unrealistic water just wont cut it anymore.

I voted FEAR because it's the new Far Cry, as far as revolutionary changes to the way you make games is concerned.

[SkinnyBones]

My opinion goes towards Far Cry mostly becuase the envoirments are amazing. And to me F.E.A.R is still not up to par with it. And to me the game play for Far Cry is still the best.

[texuspete00]

Wow, tough one. Need more time with FEAR. Both wow'd people graphically. I think FarCry set itself further apart from the games of the day and for longer at this as well. There was simply nothing like it. A 9800XT was top dog of the day, and it could not max it out at a high res. There was no SLI or anything either. FEAR is up there, but seems more people want to push the bar lately. There are many more similarities. The AI was better than most anything we had seen in the past when they were released as well.

FarCry kind out of came up out of nowhere, and everyone at least while they were playing it, thought to themselves "who needs HL2?" "Who needs Doom3?" Those games were away a bit, but many of us were tired of the carrot being dangled in front of us, and FarCry smacked you in the face and made you take notice. More I gush about it more I want to say FarCry. The more open ended nature was fun. Tagging them with the binoculars and planning your enemies death in the brush was very appealing.

They are clearly boosts to the genre.

[Alex A.]

Apples to Oranges on this Vote :(
Seriously Far-Cry is selling for $10-$20 might as well get both and enjoy both games. :cool:

[KillRoy X]

This is a tough one.

If I look at it from a standpoint of a WOW factor, I would say Far Cry Initially. However, I am having so much fun with FEAR that I'm really torn.

Far Cry definately for the environmental graphics, FEAR for AI and voice-acting.

Really, just two very different games. Far Cry is very lush, colorful. While FEAR is dark, cold, cramped quarters.

Ask me again in a year. As of now, it's a tie. I think they are both better than Half-Life 2 and Doom.

[CyByte]

I love both of the games and FEAR sucked me in for a longer straight period of time, but FarCry has more replay value to me then FEAR does.

[Red~Mage]

I feel that both games are incredibly overrated. :p

But then again, I do about most games that are purely based on a graphic platform.

However, my vote goes for F.E.A.R, simply because the combat (on the hardest difficulty) is incredibly more immersive then anything FarCry could pull off. Love that AI.

[junehhan]

I really didn't like both games, but i'd say FarCry was definately better. I don't see how Fear got the hype it did when it bored the hell out of me. I just can't believe you fight only 2 or 3 different enemies throughout the entire game. The environment was also just too boring as everyplace looked like you've been there already.

[Khaydarin]

I would have to say FEAR. Easily.

Sure, the graphics were awesome and amazing when Far Cry came out.....but it was almost too cartoonish and I couldnt get "into" the game in the same way I can with FEAR. When I played Far Cry it was good for the first little bit, but then got dull in terms of its fun....and the mutants were just sucky to play against. The jungle was fun and all.....but if the whole storyline and acting sucks....then I cant feel like I'm actually there and therefore appreciate the atmosphere.

FEAR, however, really got my attention. Holy crap, I have never been so paranoid while playing a game. It is not like Doom 3. D3 is the same "see monster.....see monster shreik.....shoot monster.....see monster die." over and over - eventually there was no fright at all. With FEAR I have this constant dread.....sitting on the edge of my seat and jumping at every sound and shadow. I mean, forget the AI (well I'll get to that in a second)....I think its a relief to be fighting those clones because it means I'm not about to get the shaft from that girl. The AI is so amazing too. With Far Cry it was pretty straight forward....and the flanking was pretty basic. FEAR is nuts with its AI, and flanking around is just the beginning.

Ok, I have beaten Far Cry, and I'm still working on FEAR......but so far I have been more absorbed, more gripped by the intensity of FEAR. Maybe its my favor towards the style of FEAR over Far Cry, but from an immersive/atmospheric standpoint alone, FEAR takes the cake. I just cant wait to replay it with the 7800 GTX 512 MB coming mid-next week. =D

[ThreeDee]

first off ..both games I thought were great.

I have played thru both games several times and beaten both of them on their hardest settings.

I had to give the nod to Far Cry tho because of its "openness". Being able to attack your opponents from many different approaches or avoiding them all together is what won it over F.E.A.R. in my book...not to mention that Far Cry's visuals are still holding their own up against todays games.

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[STANG22GT]

Far Cry... no doubt

I just got FEAR last week and already finished it, Far Cry took longer. Graphics were great, the vehicles, the paraglide part was great and a lot more reasons that have been said.

[Darakian]

Far cry simply due to the size of the levels :)

[fromage]

The only reason I disliked Far Cry is still the same reason I originally disliked that game before it even came out.

Mutants and paranormal shit. For the love of god, can ANYONE ever make a decent single player game that doesn't have non-human elements to it, for fucks sake.

This is why I like games like Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell, Call of Duty, etc. None of this zombie, mutant, devil shit. I'm so sick and tired of the whole paranormal garbage games in the past few years.

In the end, FEAR was more fun to play than Far Cry.

[Ron1jed]

farcry. I love outdoor areas. Just overall a kick ass game

[Thunder888]

Far Cry brought something "non-technology" related to the FPS table, if I can call it that. The large open-ended level design was nice and original. FEAR was cool, but the Max Payne effect was not really original, was it...

FEAR didn't bring anything new to the FPS world, except the expected increase in eye-candy associated with the passing of time. I voted Far Cry.

Just my 2 cents :cool:

[Majin]

Far Cry brought something "non-technology" related to the FPS table, if I can call it that. The large open-ended level design was nice and original. FEAR was cool, but the Max Payne effect was not really original, was it...

FEAR didn't bring anything new to the FPS world, except the expected increase in eye-candy associated with the passing of time. I voted Far Cry.

Just my 2 cents :cool:

"The Max Payne effect..."
That's an ignorant comment..

Name me 1 game in the last 5 years that hasn't borrowed something from an other game.
The slow mo ability in FEAR was a take on the old Max Payne effect, but they did it so differently it was original.

Also Open Areas are nothing new, Yes Far Cry did have something that was very different, no game had draw distance like that before, not to mention real looking water, but original?

"Fear didn't bring anything new to the FPS world..."

How about the first REAL smart AI ever!
Every FPS that comes out claims to have Smart AI, but FEAR finally had it.
Or the best looking particle effects ever in a game.
The smoke looked real, the sparks, the volumetric fire...

Far Cry set the standard for water and draw distance
FEAR has set the standard for AI and particle effects!

FEAR and Far Cry are trend setters, plain and simple.

[ThreeDee]

"The Max Payne effect..."
That's an ignorant comment..

Name me 1 game in the last 5 years that hasn't borrowed something from an other game.
The slow mo ability in FEAR was a take on the old Max Payne effect, but they did it so differently it was original.

Also Open Areas are nothing new, Yes Far Cry did have something that was very different, no game had draw distance like that before, not to mention real looking water, but original?

"Fear didn't bring anything new to the FPS world..."

How about the first REAL smart AI ever!
Every FPS that comes out claims to have Smart AI, but FEAR finally had it.
Or the best looking particle effects ever in a game.
The smoke looked real, the sparks, the volumetric fire...

Far Cry set the standard for water and draw distance
FEAR has set the standard for AI and particle effects!

FEAR and Far Cry are trend setters, plain and simple.

very true .. both games have their stronger points in different areas

I just might have to fire up Far Cry again ..but I don't know that I have the patience for it on hardest setting again ..

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[RW2112]

Far cry has my vote, primarily for the multiple approaches to an objective and the openess of the terrain. Each time I replay it I can find a different way to get the main mission accomplished. I've not seen another game yet with that kind of gameplay.

I'll line up with cash in hand when the exspansion comes available... :D

[SPARTAN VI]

FEAR

Pros
+ Graphics.
+ Plot isn't transparent unlike FarCry.
+ Interesting weapons.
+ Gameplay (love the bullet-time).
+ Online gameplay better than FarCry's.

Cons
- Too short.
- Requires beefy rig for best experience.


FarCry

Pros
+ Lush tropical environments. Nice indoors environments, as well.
+ Gameplay (stealth/action hybrid, could use some more tweaking, though).
+ Graphics: looks great and you don't need to rob a bank to play.

Cons
- Gameplay... the monsters (crygens) totally killed the game.
- Buggy as hell. The game seems to be degenerative, as in, the longer I have it or the more I play, the buggier it gets until I can't even play anymore. For example: triggers wouldn't work. I couldn't finish any levels. Had to uninstall, reinstall to get back on track.
- Multiplayer sucks.
- Incredibly thin plot.
- Cheesy dialogue.


I'd take FEAR.

[revenant]

Far Cry is awesome.. the open spaces with LUSH environment, and HDR... the water reflection and environment mapping is great... I really thought I felt leaves hitting my face when I went trudging thought the bushes. lol. but FEAR's untra realistic shadowing, and amazing models, plus again amazing environment mapping took the cake for me... I'd have to say FEAR by a pubic hair.. lol. granted, Far Cry is two years old... and their new engine incoporates all the dynamic shadowing and ultra realistic modeling tech which FEAR has... so anyways.. this is not a deate over what will be out, but what is out... so I will leave that alone. heh... What I love about Far Cry is how well it performs in those HUGE open spaces with so much going on... man... it's a really tough call. :)

[KillRoy X]

I don't think I'll will be able to vote for a clear winner here, I just love both of them too much. Both have strengths and weaknesses.

Screw it, I'm taking every game off my rig except Far Cry and FEAR and am going to play them both.

These are good debates, I guess the next one would be which one is blander, Doom III or Quake IV? Ha! I liked them both, just not in the same league as Far Cry or FEAR.