Dell added a Gaming Department??

[machwireless]

just went to Dell's website and they have a gaming department.

wonder how this is gonna go......

[Pixeleet]

F' that. For the time being, until Dell starts shipping with AMD64s, they'll never have a Gaming centre imo.

[1c3d0g]

F' that. For the time being, until Dell starts shipping with AMD64s, they'll never have a Gaming centre imo.
'Nuff said. :)

Edit: and worst of all: "No sissies allowed". So I guess everyone with an AMD system is a sissie according to Dell... :p

[machwireless]

'Nuff said. :)

Edit: and worst of all: "No sissies allowed". So I guess everyone with an AMD system is a sissie according to Dell... :p
wanna bet they get sued by the Gay/Lesbian Society for that one.

[DaRkF0g]

lmao that would make my day :p

[ScHpAnKy]

blah, well at least they... are only slightly overpriced?

[machwireless]

blah, well at least they... are only slightly overpriced?
slightly? if thats slight i would hate to see the inflation rate in action.

[ScHpAnKy]

slightly? if thats slight i would hate to see the inflation rate in action.

I realize that, but if I stated my true thoughts I might have gotten banned or something for flaming

[theHinge]

And then they will want to have any signs of gender whatsoever taken from all the machines, so e-penis benchmarks will be next on the hitlist. :D

wanna bet they get sued by the Gay/Lesbian Society for that one.

[magoo]

No Sissies???? what the f__k??? Their baseline "gaming" box is UBER weak. Sissies..... come back and talk to me when you have an AMD FX or X2 to offer. Sissies......... my mother has a comp with more juice than that and shes 80...... BAH! Game this. :rolleyes:

[machwireless]

No Sissies???? what the f__k??? Their baseline "gaming" box is UBER weak. Sissies..... come back and talk to me when you have an AMD FX or X2 to offer. Sissies......... my mother has a comp with more juice than that and shes 80...... BAH! Game this. :rolleyes:
CTFU

[magoo]

sorry... what does the C stand for????? I got the rest. ;)

[machwireless]

sorry... what does the C stand for????? I got the rest. ;)
cracking

[Kaiga]

No Sissies???? what the f__k??? Their baseline "gaming" box is UBER weak. Sissies..... come back and talk to me when you have an AMD FX or X2 to offer. Sissies......... my mother has a comp with more juice than that and shes 80...... BAH! Game this. :rolleyes: ha ha, their Gaming line uber sucks. I mean they do make good office and home PCs but for the Gaming line, ha ha ha lol, they need to stay out that market. and they really need to get rid of the guy that comes up with those lines they put up for XPS cause it sound really cheesy. The XPS IMO is just another Expensive Alienware with a different case over it.

We take your gaming experience as seriously as you do. XPS shows just how serious we are. omg, I laughed at this one for a few minutes. yeah, we are serious here men!! this is a serious operation!!! HOOOAAHH!? HOAH sir!

[The Donut]

Atleast they're trying to enter and or cater to the market.

[magoo]

they should have entered it with their heads out of their collective asses. Sissies......WTF?? Who thought of that shit????

[Hollow4]

does Dell even sell anything with AMD in it?

[Lazy_Moron]

does Dell even sell anything with AMD in it?

No, even though its been rumored many time before, that there is a deal going down between Dell and AMD, that will allow Dell to sell AMD processors. But then Dell always says, that will always stick to Intel, and what not. So I dont see AMD's going into Dell anytime soon.

[Hollow4]

well that makes a whole lot of not sense. stupid contracts and stupid loyalties. but the way we should all be looking at this is that almost everyone, myself included, gets a crappy system their first time because they fall to advertising. but what makes us different from others is we learn from our mistake and find something that actually preforms better. or if we cant afford it we dream about it.

[Chris_Morley]

Dell's been in the gaming market for some time. When they entered into it, they forced Alienware's prices to go down. I wouldn't be surprised if they're selling more gaming PCs than Alienware is.

[Chris_Morley]

well that makes a whole lot of not sense. stupid contracts and stupid loyalties. but the way we should all be looking at this is that almost everyone, myself included, gets a crappy system their first time because they fall to advertising. but what makes us different from others is we learn from our mistake and find something that actually preforms better. or if we cant afford it we dream about it.
It's $$$, pure and simple. Dell buys so many processors that their leverage over Intel is huge. Anytime Dell even thinks about selling AMD, Intel drops their prices way below what they sell to other OEMs, and this makes it hard for others to compete.

If Dell's so stupid, why are they kicking the shit outta everyone else?

[machwireless]

just face it. as crappy as Dell is, they have created an unstoppable brand that no one is competing with right now. my gateway stock sucks, emachines and hp aint touchin em.

dell is like microsoft right now. hard to beat.

give em probs where its due. i dont think they will profit much in the gaming commnuity though. they may actually create gamers becasue a system is available that will handle it that someone else spends the time to build. for about 1000 bucks more too

[Hollow4]

hey im nto bashing dell, i just bought a server from them because they were so cheap and i didnt feel like building it myself. i just hate that contracts and loyalties get in the way. i think dell is a great company and have taken care of my needs , except for gaming, all the way.

[Trepidati0n]

If Dell really wanted to they could build a machine at the cost of MSRP and still make a hell of a profit due to volumes. Every year Dell as been getting in terms of bang per buck (especially when you include a LEGAL copy of the OS). Right now I can't beat them in the low-end market and the middle market is getting tighter. The highend market they still suck. But if they really wanted to, they could make ZZF, Newegg, etc squeal like little pigs.

-tReP

[pxc]

Every year Dell as been getting in terms of bang per buck (especially when you include a LEGAL copy of the OS). Right now I can't beat them in the low-end market and the middle market is getting tighter.HP looks like they are trying for a comeback: http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=24556

$250 desktop, or a $300 CTO Sempron 3000+ with monitor and printer. And they've had some other great deals lately. And one huge advantage over the Dell cheapie systems is that the Asus board in the HP Sempron/A64 systems has an AGP slot.

[vsrdan]

For the time being, until Dell starts shipping with AMD64s, they'll never have a Gaming centre imo.

Just visited their Gaming Dept. The max. they have is Pentium EE Dual Core and D 840. Very limited choices. :( I thought AMD's are better for gaming (?)

[FlatLine84]

For buisness and enterprise, Dell is not crappy. Not to mention they make good on anything buisness related at the drop of a hat. Home, that's another story....... Back to buisness, there is no other company that can provide the support, price, quantity, and ease that Dell can, sadly enough....

Dell should not dare venture into the gaming department as they have, the XPS notebooks are good though.

[vsrdan]

does Dell even sell anything with AMD in it?
The answer is here. (http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kb/en/document?dn=1055363&c=us&l=en&cs=19&s=dhs)

I think the situation is the same after 4 years (right now) :p

[slamgoku]

cracking this one colombian girl, I swear, always told me to Chut The Fuck Up.

[machwireless]

this one colombian girl, I swear, always told me to Chut The Fuck Up.
no not quite. but you got me cracking the fuck up on this one.

[magoo]

I dont care if Dell pwns every fucking computer in the world, I still aint no Sissie. I cringe at the idea of playing HL2 on my Sissie Dell XPS???? WTF. I do agree that if Dell wanted to they probably could crush the competition just on price breaks alone. Sissies! :cool:

[demons9872]

you can all sit here and bitch about dell but i bet u they sell more of those gaming systems then any of us will ever see there will be more gaming dells than there are custom pc like everyone here has built if ya dont like dell dont visit there website dont buy there stuff now shut up this is retarded u allk hate dell stop talking about them

[machwireless]

dell is doing a good thing. they are providing a product to people that probably know nothing about the gaming arena. it will introduce more people to gaming and bring about computer awareness

but that will only last about three years until all of them switch to custom AMD systems.

[Vengance_01]

Why are people so anti Dell. Dell is by far the best mass OEM maker on the market. Solid machines, and good prices for what you get. Just B/C its a pentium 4 does not mean it can not game. They are offering these machines for ppl who want to play games but do not have the expertieses to build it them. My next desktop machine just may be a Dell. They are quiet, and the service and support is great. It may nolt get uber FPS's, or run uber 1600-1200 res, but gaming is about fun. If you all care about in graphics, then I really feel sorry you.

[Vengance_01]

I dont care if Dell pwns every fucking computer in the world, I still aint no Sissie. I cringe at the idea of playing HL2 on my Sissie Dell XPS???? WTF. I do agree that if Dell wanted to they probably could crush the competition just on price breaks alone. Sissies! :cool: I play HL2 on my Dell 9300 at max details 1600x1050 2AA and 4AF. Looks great plays great, not at max res, but it gets the job done. Why don't you get your head out your ass and not care about your e-penis and judging by your sig, I don't think it will ever happen. Some ppl can not afford/nor has the means to build custom machines.

[zone_86]

I play HL2 on my Dell 9300 at max details 1600x1050 2AA and 4AF. Looks great plays great, not at max res, but it gets the job done. Why don't you get your head out your ass and not care about your e-penis and judging by your sig, I don't think it will ever happen. Some ppl can not afford/nor has the means to build custom machines.


Actually you can build one FAR cheaper than buying Dell with just a budget A64. That said, i have nothing against Dell. It's just that they can't compete with A64 S939, and in most cases S754 budget chips. Dell does do a good thing and they have nice PC's but they need to think ."AMD". Diversification and not be 'afraid' of being penalised by Intel execs for thinking of using AMD.

[ScHpAnKy]

Why are people so anti Dell. Dell is by far the best mass OEM maker on the market. Solid machines, and good prices for what you get.

Why are we anti-dell? Their support is, at best, sub-par, they overcharge for this same horrible service, and this is an enthusiast website... Dell is not an Enthusiast company.


Just B/C its a pentium 4 does not mean it can not game. They are offering these machines for ppl who want to play games but do not have the expertieses to build it them. My next desktop machine just may be a Dell. They are quiet, and the service and support is great. It may nolt get uber FPS's, or run uber 1600-1200 res, but gaming is about fun. If you all care about in graphics, then I really feel sorry you.

Dell's aren't quiet, nor is the service and support anything of value. But I would rather pay the same amount of money for a system that performs faster in everything rather than one that [over]chargers for something it clearly does not have, which is both speed and technical support.

[Vengance_01]

I agree, but ppl are making so Dell= no gaming at all. P4 is a very capable machine. Also Have to remember, With Dell you can finance it, Custom you need all the money up-front. Big advatage. This comming from a guy who build AMD's machines snice the tunderbird sub gigahurt, and I am now using a Dell Laptop.

[machwireless]

I agree, but ppl are making so Dell= no gaming at all. P4 is a very capable machine. Also Have to remember, With Dell you can finance it, Custom you need all the money up-front. Big advatage. This comming from a guy who build AMD's machines snice the tunderbird sub gigahurt, and I am now using a Dell Laptop.
u can finance custom. put it on ya credit card.

[zone_86]

I agree, but ppl are making so Dell= no gaming at all. P4 is a very capable machine. Also Have to remember, With Dell you can finance it, Custom you need all the money up-front. Big advatage. This comming from a guy who build AMD's machines snice the tunderbird sub gigahurt, and I am now using a Dell Laptop.

I understand what you mean. It wasn't that long ago when Intel P4C's were tops over AXP, but as soon as A64 was out it was over. But the P4 is still a very "smooth" processor. It multitasks very well, has few issues. It's just that AMD are now actually better for both tasking and gaming - most especially gaming as the gap is widening by a good margin in that area.

[StorageJoe]

Dell is.....

....a good solution for people who aren't PC geeks (one number to call if there's a problem, not 12 hardware and software manfacturers to call)

...an inexpensive entry level computer.

...the best mass market OEM builder out there (I'd rather have a Dell than an eMachine).

...fast and simple to configure. (one purchase, no piece parting)

I realize that you have nothing better to do than bitch about Dell, but guess what, you don't have to buy one if you don't want to. Seriously, who cares, find something better to do than flame Dell. This is why you're virgins.

[Vengance_01]

I understand what you mean. It wasn't that long ago when Intel P4C's were tops over AXP, but as soon as A64 was out it was over. But the P4 is still a very "smooth" processor. It multitasks very well, has few issues. It's just that AMD are now actually better for both tasking and gaming - most especially gaming as the gap is widening by a good margin in that area. Ya I agree AMD is best for Games, and now with the X2 it is the best multitasker out there as well, but at what cost? I think its good for Dell to dable in this market. Most of us here on these forums would not buy a Dell, B/C have the fun is building and tinkering, but we make up a very small precentage of the market, 5% -+2. I really hate when ppl bash things without having first hand experice with dell. Right now Dell is like Mircosoft, they are pretty much un-stoppable in the OEM market.

[ScHpAnKy]

Dell is.....

....a good solution for people who aren't PC geeks (one number to call if there's a problem, not 12 hardware and software manfacturers to call)

Actually a poor solution, and I would rather people pay the premium to get the Alienware "Bot" Series because of the support alone, Dell's support is absolutely useless... that is, when you don't have to wait hours on hold


...an inexpensive entry level computer.

While Dell may be considered "inexpensive" it is because they use cheap components (Cheap motherboards, cases, power supplies, ram)


...the best mass market OEM builder out there (I'd rather have a Dell than an eMachine).

Arguably.



...fast and simple to configure. (one purchase, no piece parting)

Yes and no... while you don't have to configure base systems, you do need to configure them if you were to upgrade them or want "better than horrid" performance.


I realize that you have nothing better to do than bitch about Dell, but guess what, you don't have to buy one if you don't want to. Seriously, who cares, find something better to do than flame Dell. This is why you're virgins.
I take it you are a dell owner. :rolleyes:

[Vengance_01]

You call Alienware support good LOL!!!! You have somethings to learn. I am done with this thread there is no point anymore.

[machwireless]

You call Alienware support good LOL!!!! You have somethings to learn. I am done with this thread there is no point anymore.
i started it and i have been done.

[StorageJoe]

Actually a poor solution, and I would rather people pay the premium to get the Alienware "Bot" Series because of the support alone, Dell's support is absolutely useless... that is, when you don't have to wait hours on hold


While Dell may be considered "inexpensive" it is because they use cheap components (Cheap motherboards, cases, power supplies, ram)


Arguably.



Yes and no... while you don't have to configure base systems, you do need to configure them if you were to upgrade them or want "better than horrid" performance.


I take it you are a dell owner. :rolleyes:


You missed the entire point didn't you. Some people have more important things to worry about (such as girlfriends or job) than getting better frame rates on cs. And you know what.... yes, I actually do own a dell. ( As well as 2 rigs I custom built and a laptop.)

[Chris_Morley]

This thread is exactly why we have the Systems Evaluation Program. There's a lot of FUD and conjecture in this thread, and we're trying to make sense of it all.

[AMDXP]

I like there laptop value, for college or something.... a little expensive though. :rolleyes:

[demons9872]

and as far as amd goes why would dell do what gateway did when the athalons were out gateway jumped all over them and boom all of them had heat issues among other problems. So why is dell gonna fudge up and loose millions like gateway did. As far as im not gonna get a dell till they use amd there are millions of people who use intel and game i am one of them. The benchmarks against a amd rig and intel rig sre so friggen tiny its all about o i got 5 fps more than u did who the hell cares. IF ya dont like dell dont buy them. I love dells have one as my htpc and one as a storage server and i use there crt and lcds

[zappa86]

People should either build their own rigs or have a friend build it with them if they dont know how.

[StorageJoe]

People should either build their own rigs or have a friend build it with them if they dont know how.

Very informed statement (sarcasm). If some gave a shit they would, but most people don't so they buy a Dell. That's like saying that I shouldn't go buy a new car I should have my buddy help me build one. And don't say that's a stupid example because people do it all the time to an extant. (Buy the body of an old mustng / chevelle / GTO and build an engine, piece togather a sweet car.) To them, you going out and buying a "muscle car" seems like an idiot thing to do too. Some people just have more important shit to do than play counterstrike and battlefield all day.

[zone_86]

You don't understand the market 86. Most people even in IT could care less about building one. Its that simple. It's not because they can't - it's because their interests are elsewhere. There are plenty for fomers tweakers that have gone on to be Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers, and don't care to tweak a bios or spend 2-6 hours setting up a system and use Dells.

[Mr_Evil]

Personally, I still don't see why people are so "Intel SUCKS AMD R00LZ!!!!!oneone" Apparrently nobody reads the [H] much anymore. Kyle uses both...and I'm fixing to have both a P4 and AMD 64 rig. No need to be such a fanatic about it.

The problem with a thread like this, it usually ends up in an AMD vs Intel e-penis measuring contest.

[zone_86]

Agreed Evil! And i'm from the Tascosa side of the town you are from :).originally anyway. WTSU grad. (A&M now).

[Chris_Morley]

This thread is exactly why we have the Systems Evaluation Program. There's a lot of FUD and conjecture in this thread, and we're trying to make sense of it all.
It's worth repeating.

[o0akoni0o]

Ya I agree AMD is best for Games, and now with the X2 it is the best multitasker out there as well, but at what cost? I think its good for Dell to dable in this market. Most of us here on these forums would not buy a Dell, B/C have the fun is building and tinkering, but we make up a very small precentage of the market, 5% -+2. I really hate when ppl bash things without having first hand experice with dell. Right now Dell is like Mircosoft, they are pretty much un-stoppable in the OEM market.
QFT....and because we make such a small percentage, there's no real point in oem's catering to us. in fact the best reason i have to why companies continue to put out high end hardware every several months is because they know people like us are willing to shell out the money to but it. basically out of all the computer users out there, a large majority don't know what they are buying and with the marketing strategy and reputation of dell it is easy to see why they are number one. any while most of us here wouldn't go with a dell desktop if forced to go oem, you gotta understand that the average person out there can't differentiate between a pentium and a celeron.

[magoo]

Hey Mach.....Stop this thread. I thought the whole thing was about SISSIES???? Not who has a larger penis, Dell, Intel, AMD or whatever. :D Altho I ravaged dell several times here I do have several of their monitors and I like "em. Bought one from Dell and two offa EBay. So there. ;)

[jon67]

The hi-end XPS systems are great for gaming and everything else. It's not that ridiculous for Dell to make an attempt at the gaming community.

The XPS 2 has to be amongst the best machines for laptop gaming, with a CPU superior to any mobile AMD, the best mobile GPU available (Go6800Ultra) and screen res up to 19x12.

Got a Dimension XPS gen4 (in sig), it's simultaneously running HL2 without lag or hitches at 1680x1050 with everything maxed out + folding@home at 70-80% of max speed (with no other apps running). I'd like to see an AMD single-core do the same. Also got 7050 in 3DMark05 and beat some AMD systems with the same vid card :)

[vsrdan]

and as far as amd goes why would dell do what gateway did when the athalons were out gateway jumped all over them and boom all of them had heat issues among other problems. So why is dell gonna fudge up and loose millions like gateway did.

Agree, same thing happened to Compaq (heat issues in laptops)

[machwireless]

Hey Mach.....Stop this thread. I thought the whole thing was about SISSIES???? Not who has a larger penis, Dell, Intel, AMD or whatever. :D Altho I ravaged dell several times here I do have several of their monitors and I like "em. Bought one from Dell and two offa EBay. So there. ;)
this thread was actually about Dell's new gaming department but now i see men fighting over a Dell box in diapers.

i could care less what happens to this thread now.

[magoo]

True. :cool:

[tiraides]

The hi-end XPS systems are great for gaming and everything else. It's not that ridiculous for Dell to make an attempt at the gaming community.

The XPS 2 has to be amongst the best machines for laptop gaming, with a CPU superior to any mobile AMD, the best mobile GPU available (Go6800Ultra) and screen res up to 19x12
And that -- as in the XPS desktop and laptop -- is why Dell has a gaming department now....

We all know that Dell is not trying to reach us in the enthusiast market, but they've taken a few "hints" from us and are now trying to market some of their models as gaming machines. What I would like to see, however, is what they could do for an encore... or are we just going to see more generations of the XPS?

[EnderW]

F' that. For the time being, until Dell starts shipping with AMD64s, they'll never have a Gaming centre imo.
because you can't play games with an Intel processor :rolleyes:^infinity

[FlatLine84]

because you can't play games with an Intel processor :rolleyes:^infinity


Yeah, it's impossible to play games on an Intel :rolleyes: