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Marvelous
02-13-2005, 06:40 PM
Is it just me? Are seagate hard drives slow as polk? It's seek time is slow and it's copying is slow. Hard drives have a lot of impact on when we actually work. Moving files, buring them on dvd's, encoding some videos while editing some photos and running multiple programs on the backround.

Seriously I like it. It's quiet and has 5years warranty. But it's much slower than the Western Digital JB's or the Hitachi's. Slower than the Samsungs. Slower than the crappy Maxtors with 1 year warranty.

No wonder they have 5 years warranty. It's seeking needle is slow so the disc can't get damaged. :D

MaMMa
02-13-2005, 08:42 PM
if speed is your main concern get a raptor

Marvelous
02-13-2005, 09:31 PM
I've been thinking about it. But I just can't justify. 80gig vs 250gig around the same price sometimes you can get a 250gig drive for the half the price.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=867488

MaMMa
02-13-2005, 09:35 PM
the speeds is so much worth it though, you wont regret.

get the 74gb raptor and save up for a storage drive later. its like your PC is on steroids comming from a normal HD.

I just got done reading this, you should check it out as well.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=843163

doormat
02-13-2005, 10:28 PM
I've been thinking about it. But I just can't justify. 80gig vs 250gig around the same price sometimes you can get a 250gig drive for the half the price.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=867488
Thats a deathstar through. Hitachi bought IBMs old HD division.

funkytown65
02-14-2005, 06:01 AM
Arguing about the speed difference between normal drives is piddly compared to going to a 74gb raptor. The difference in speed is amazing, and for saved files, games, applications, and your operating system, you aren't going to use 74gb anyway. Use a storage drive for storage, but don't complain because one is 12% slower than another. If you want speed, raptor is the only game in town.

nylint
02-14-2005, 06:38 AM
i had a stack of seagate thinline hdd's i ran in a server from work, 2mb, 7200rpm.
no slower than the maxtors or wd's or etc. that i had lying around, and much quieter.

if i could go back and buy every component in my server new, i probably would have gone 4x250gb seagate 7200.7's.

Marvelous
02-14-2005, 08:29 AM
I want my computer to be on steroid. :)

I want it to zip instead of chug. :cool:

Is the performance that noticeable with a raptor. Why not a scsi hard drive? How about CPU utilization for IDE hard drives against SCSI for instance. Is raptor fast as scsi?

NecessaryEvil
02-14-2005, 08:48 AM
A raptor isn't as expensive as a SCSI drive.

Actually, a Raptor is a modified SCSI drive (at least, it used to be...I assume it still is) with a SATA bus on it instead of SCSI

That's why they're coming in the same capacities as SCSI drives.

SCSI would require that you buy a controller card (I'm assuming that you have the ability to use SATA on your motherboard)...and cables.


Should you decide to go sCSI, let me know. I've got 2 6 device U320 cables I'm never going to use that I've been trying to sell. they cost me almost 200, I'm trying to get about 30 for them.

MaMMa
02-14-2005, 09:33 AM
Bah, save yourself the hassle of all the extra cables and controllers and whatnot, get a raptor and do yourself the favore. I gaurentee you won't regret.

One main reason why a fast ass computer with the latest and greatest stuff is slow is because the HD.

I have like a 25 sec boot time. Its completely booted up and ready not just to the login screen. Its crazy, so fast that now when I restart and do my normal runs to the boys room, I run now, Just to get back to my pc when its ready to go agian !!! :D

Marvelous
02-14-2005, 11:07 PM
what about cpu utilization. I transfer 300gigs a week while I'm working on the computer. The computer boggles while it's transfering.

The older seagates with 2meg cache were very zippy because of it's low access time. The 8meg cache is the one I have and it's dang slow compared to other drives with its caliber. Western Digital and hitachi are on top with 7200rpm IDE drives far as I'm concerened. These seagates are good for storage but too slow for what I do.

I'm thinking about going scsi. Are raptors quiet or they loud? Which would you choose? Anybody with scsi and or raptors before?

Stellar
02-14-2005, 11:51 PM
The newer Seagate SATA drives are NCQ-enabled.. that should give you a decent little performance bump over compareable drives if you have the appropriate chipset.

Talonz
02-15-2005, 05:44 PM
Thats a deathstar through. Hitachi bought IBMs old HD division.

I can't believe people still believe that all Hitachi/IBM drives are going to crash on them. The only drives that the problem affected were the GXP60 and GXP75 series. Mine is reliable, and it's practically the fastest 7200 RPM drive except for the newer 16mb cache maxtors and the Hitachi 7k400 (which is marginally faster in some respects and slightly slower in others).

http://www.storagereview.com/php/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LeaderBoard

Anyway, I would go with a raptor or a 300gb maxtor with 16mb cache. Their new models are extremely fast (yes, a maxtor can be fast :p)

wtf
02-15-2005, 08:00 PM
speed/noise is excellent

Tofu Drift
02-15-2005, 08:43 PM
I've had a Seagate die on me, but that hasn't kept me from buying them. They're quiet as heck and for the most part, very reliable and quick.

I had a friend who was contemplating between Seagate and Maxtor for an 7200rpm SATA drive, and he went with Maxtor to save a few bucks. Now he's telling me it sounds like an aircraft taking off when he's trying to launch a program.

subman
02-15-2005, 10:03 PM
I had a friend who was contemplating between Seagate and Maxtor for an 7200rpm SATA drive, and he went with Maxtor to save a few bucks. Now he's telling me it sounds like an aircraft taking off when he's trying to launch a program.

I have 3 Maxtor drives running - 2 SATA and 1 PATA - and I use the Maxtor Acoustic Management software AMSET and have set the drives for QUIET mode and now I cannot hear them at all.

KrakenGuy
02-15-2005, 10:17 PM
I have 2 80gb Seagate's and I love them, load times are really good, I am not complaining about anything, much faster then a 5400rpm IDE drive anyday. Haven't really seen any faster drives around my area. So I can't compare.

Tofu Drift
02-16-2005, 12:38 AM
I have 3 Maxtor drives running - 2 SATA and 1 PATA - and I use the Maxtor Acoustic Management software AMSET and have set the drives for QUIET mode and now I cannot hear them at all.

I should tell him to check that out if he hasn't already :D

Marvelous
02-16-2005, 10:01 AM
Seagates are just plain slower compared to any other drive out there. Just check storagereviews. Seagates are always at the bottom of benches.