SBS place in the network

[civic00typer]

As many of you may know I am setting on a small domain in my house to regular secuirty and sharing policies. I will start with the servers connections to the network, I am having problems currently with dns and a couple other issues. I have been recommended two different combniations for unknown reasons:

Setup 1: CABLE MODEM =====>> ROUTER W/AP ========>> SERVER and CLIENTS

Setup 2: CABLE MODEM =====>> ROUTER =======>> SERVER =====>> SWITCH =======> CLIENTS

What are the benefits of hooking it up as setup 1 describes vs Setup 2?

[Blublux2]

Setup1 would be way less complicated
setup1 would be less secure for the server since it uses a wireless ( i hate wireless)
setup2 would be more secure for clients since they would be running throught the server (which act as a router)

Thats pretty much the only difference
Using setup 1 requires knowledge on software router, routing table and, ideally, NAT.
Also , If you use your server to host some external services (ftp, http etc) & that somebody finds a way to shut it down, your LAN would probably stop working.

[oakfan52]

Setup1 would be way less complicated
setup1 would be less secure for the server since it uses a wireless ( i hate wireless)
setup2 would be more secure for clients since they would be running throught the server (which act as a router)

Thats pretty much the only difference
Using setup 1 requires knowledge on software router, routing table and, ideally, NAT.
Also , If you use your server to host some external services (ftp, http etc) & that somebody finds a way to shut it down, your LAN would probably stop working.


Well i think you got 1 of the three rigjht.


#1 will be way less complicated.


setup #2 is just waist and a hassle unless your going to use the sbs server as proxy server. Other than that use setup #2 makes no sense.

[pigster]

setup #2 is just waist and a hassle unless your going to use the sbs server as proxy server. Other than that use setup #2 makes no sense.

So why is it recommended by Microsoft to configure SBS as two homed? It's not a 'waist', it's considered best practice.

[pigster]

What are the benefits of hooking it up as setup 1 describes vs Setup 2?

I already suggested the two nic arrangement; if you're still not convinced why not ask the people in the microsoft.public.server.sbs newsgroup? One of the best newsgroups around, very helpful and well informed people.

[civic00typer]

I already suggested the two nic arrangement; if you're still not convinced why not ask the people in the microsoft.public.server.sbs newsgroup? One of the best newsgroups around, very helpful and well informed people.

Yes you did a couple of treads back. I followed the advice, and then I was having problems on one of my clients resolving names. I was questioned on why I was running two nics, but I didn't know why I was... I still am not clear on why it is better to run two rather than one to a switch or router.

[pigster]

Yes you did a couple of treads back. I followed the advice, and then I was having problems on one of my clients resolving names. I was questioned on why I was running two nics, but I didn't know why I was... I still am not clear on why it is better to run two rather than one to a switch or router.

Because you lose 90% of the functionality of ISA server - it becomes nothing more than a caching proxy server. Running two nics gives you a very secure, configurable firewall with caching.

[oakfan52]

So why is it recommended by Microsoft to configure SBS as two homed? It's not a 'waist', it's considered best practice.


so just because you can use it as a proxy server means you should even if you don't need it?