Cheeta Harddrive?!

[mvfalcons21]

Wow. That's all I can say. Seagate has released a 15k RPM HD (http://seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,551,00.html) with a 3.6ms seek time. I don't even want to see how fast this one is...Oh wait, yes I do. I mean, that is more of a difference over the Raptor than the Raptor is over a 7,200 RPM. And it's Seagate, so it's not some no-name company with a crappy product. What is going to be next?

[USMC2Hard4U]

This drive has been out for years...

[defakto]

yeah 15k scsi's have been out for quite some time.

[mvfalcons21]

Than why are the raptors so much better if they are less rpm and seek time?

[defakto]

the raptors aren't better, the newer 15k's will annihilate teh raptor in server style performance benches. the raptor is, right now, geared more towards consumer level use.

[mvfalcons21]

But if the Cheetah was out before the Raptors, why didn't the Cheetah just up and away in the HD market instead of the Raptors?

[defakto]

Because cheetah's are scsi, and scsi is expensive. Like I said they were aimed at a much different market than the raptors are. Joe User doesn't use or need scsi, the only people that really call for it are power users and enterprised level applications.

[mvfalcons21]

When newegg has them in stock, they are $266. I don't call that too expensive for that performance.

[defakto]

Maybe not now, but when they came out 15k drives were pushing $500 dollars, still not to mention now you'd need a secondary controller, which can be anywhere from 100-900 depending on what you get and what you're using it for. Scsi still is, and will be for a while, the choice for heavy duty servers.

[Philip]

Check www.hypermicro.com out for SCSI. They have better prices than newegg does.

Controller cards are not to expensive if you are only go to run HDD's on it. A LSI U160 controller card runs $49. The U160 and U320 specs for SCSI are like the IDE spec's. No single drive can max out the standard it was made for. A U160 controller card will do for a power user or what ever you want to call the person.

[dandragonrage]

Fujitsu makes better SCSI drives than Seagate.

[LadyJaqie]

Fujitsu makes better SCSI drives than Seagate.
ROTFLMAO!

[aug1516]

ROTFLMAO!

Actually the latest 15k Fujitsu drive did outperform the Cheetah in just about every benchmark that storagereview.com ran. They also outperformed the Maxtor Atlas 15k in some of the server benchmarks and was crowned the 15k SCSI drive leader on their leaderboard. I have also found the acoustics of the Fujitsu to be the most pleasing. Even though it's rated higher as far as decibels go, the lower pitched sound it puts out makes it seem quieter than both the Cheetah and Maxtor IMO.

[LadyJaqie]

better performance != better product. fush~tsu is never going to be better then seagate SCSI. seagate is simply in a whole nother league. why? reliability.

[defakto]

<---- agrees with as he's looking at a box of 11 ST18404LW's from seagate that still run rock solid.

[aug1516]

better performance != better product. fush~tsu is never going to be better then seagate SCSI. seagate is simply in a whole nother league. why? reliability.

I do agree that Seagate has a better reputation than Fujistu, but we have seen no data regarding these newer drives and their particular failure rates. So far I have seen nothing that would suggest the Fujitsu drive is any less reliable than the Seagate. Besides that, when it comes to our own personal systems I really don't think the differences in reliability (if there is one) would come into play. Either drive is still going to be better built than any IDE drive that most users here are sticking into their computers and should last longer regardless of brand. By that respect I would say the Atlas 15k or the Fujitsu would be a better choice due to their performance advantages. If you were running a mission critical 24/7 server then maybe the choice would be more difficult.

[killerD]

Actually the latest 15k Fujitsu drive did outperform the Cheetah in just about every benchmark that storagereview.com ran. They also outperformed the Maxtor Atlas 15k in some of the server benchmarks and was crowned the 15k SCSI drive leader on their leaderboard. I have also found the acoustics of the Fujitsu to be the most pleasing. Even though it's rated higher as far as decibels go, the lower pitched sound it puts out makes it seem quieter than both the Cheetah and Maxtor IMO.

All 15k drives sound like a small generator even when idle and generate enough heat to warm a two story house in winter. For consumer's who use these I don't see how they block out the noise, I wisely went for a Raptor after trying out a 15k Fujitsu just out of curiosity.

[Philip]

I have one 15k Cheetah, one Atlas 2 10k. one Atlas 3 10k all in my computer. The four fans I have installed make more noise than the drives. Unless I am doing a lot of accessing.

Case design makes a big difference also. An Atlas 2 or 3 in a enlight case will drive you out of the room. I had the Atlas 2 in one for a while. I droped a 15k IBM in and the computer was a lot quiter. That computer is my girls. It stays on 24/7 in the same room she sleeps in. I installed three quite fans in her computer.

[dandragonrage]

My MAS3184 is not really loud. I can't really hear it over my fans except when doing heavy seeking and I only have a few fans to begin with at the moment.

[pmondo]

first off all the $266 n5k HD is only 36gigs and a 68 pin cable
the 73 gig HD with the 80 pin cable is over 500

[Phlebas]

I have a Adaptec 39320D with HostRAID enabled. I have two U320 15K Cheetah's in a RAID0 stripe. XP has the last HostRAID driver but I am when I use HD TACH and Sandra I am only showing like 80 to 100MB of throughput. Is this right? In most cases my system doesn't even beat ATA100 drives. I am very perplexed over this. I'd appreciate any insight any of you could provide me with.

P4 3.0Ghz
1GB HyperX TwinX PC4300
39320D with HostRAID
2x 74GB Cheetah's 15K RPM u320
MSI 875P MOBO.
XP Pro SP2. Get the same results with SP1A also.

Thanks,
Phleb.

[FLECOM]

your probably maxing out your pci bus, your @ 32bit/33mhz no?

my seagate cheetah 15k.3 U320 drives get around ~80-90Mb/s EACH soooo i dunno why your raid is goin so slow besides your PCI bus cant take it...

anyway 15k drives are for insane accesstimes more than insane transfer rates :p

[dandragonrage]

My PCI bus is limiting me to just over 75MB/sec from my drive :(