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Donnyboy
08-29-2004, 07:35 PM
Does SP2 include newer cd-key checks than SP1?
LoStMaTt
08-29-2004, 09:04 PM
It shouldnt matter should it?
fazzman
08-29-2004, 09:13 PM
it checks your cd key but if you were able to download SP1 then you should be fine. theres only a few versions of winXP that SP2 wont work with and they are mostly what the warez folks used alot.
djnes
08-30-2004, 08:56 AM
It shouldnt matter should it?
If he's using a legal copy, it doesn't matter. However, I think people who are bothered enough by this to create a thread, are pretty much admitting to using a warez copy.
ComputerBox34
08-30-2004, 09:59 AM
If he's using a legal copy, it doesn't matter. However, I think people who are bothered enough by this to create a thread, are pretty much admitting to using a warez copy.
Word.
S1nF1xx
08-30-2004, 01:02 PM
If you download the network install of SP2 it doesn't seem to matter what your CD key is, i.e a pirated corp key.
If you download the regular SP2, it will check your key and if it is pirated it most likely won't work.
Disclaimer:
I don't advocate piracy, just saying how it is.
Does SP2 include newer cd-key checks than SP1?
Try it and see what happens
:p
GreNME
08-30-2004, 01:49 PM
If you download the network install of SP2 it doesn't seem to matter what your CD key is, i.e a pirated corp key.
If you download the regular SP2, it will check your key and if it is pirated it most likely won't work.
Disclaimer:
I don't advocate piracy, just saying how it is.
Nah, the regular download won't check for a pirated key. Remember? Microsoft even said getting the SP out was more important than fighting piracy... ;)
S1nF1xx
08-30-2004, 04:47 PM
Nah, the regular download won't check for a pirated key. Remember? Microsoft even said getting the SP out was more important than fighting piracy... ;)
I heard that too. However, I tried putting SP2 on someone's machine which I recieved an error that the CD key was invalid or pirated. I downloaded the network distribution and it worked. I found out later the key was actually pirated :eek:. So, some versions of SP2 aparently do check the CD key.
GreNME
08-30-2004, 06:59 PM
Shoosh! Don't tell! :p
TLS2000
08-30-2004, 10:15 PM
Windows Update checks the key, even after you install with the SP2 network install.
If they have a pirate key, that falls into a certain range of product id's, MS blocks the use of windowsupdate beyond the installation of SP2
S1nF1xx
08-31-2004, 12:11 AM
Windows Update checks the key, even after you install with the SP2 network install.
If they have a pirate key, that falls into a certain range of product id's, MS blocks the use of windowsupdate beyond the installation of SP2
It sure doesn't.
Donnyboy
08-31-2004, 04:22 AM
thanks for the replys
LstOfTheBrunnenG
09-04-2004, 01:14 AM
Windows Update checks the key, even after you install with the SP2 network install.
If they have a pirate key, that falls into a certain range of product id's, MS blocks the use of windowsupdate beyond the installation of SP2
BS! It blocks the entrance of the user into Windows entirely....
BS! It blocks the entrance of the user into Windows entirely....
What? If you have a pirated key, you can't upgrade to SP2 from either the network install, or Windows update. It checks the key.
Cheers,
compslckr
09-04-2004, 09:18 AM
BS! It blocks the entrance of the user into Windows entirely....
fckgw-rhqq2-xxxx-xxxx :rolleyes:
LstOfTheBrunnenG
09-04-2004, 12:45 PM
No, this wasn't one of the infamous FCKGW ones; it was one that actually worked with SP1.
Nah, the regular download won't check for a pirated key. Remember? Microsoft even said getting the SP out was more important than fighting piracy... ;)
I tried it on a buddies PC. He said it was trying to do it VIA windows update and it have him that error. So I went over with my burned copy of SP2 network install and tried it. No Go.
Metallica_Band
09-04-2004, 03:37 PM
BAH!!! Just get Windows XP Pro and order their FREE SP2 CD and integrate it...I have my Windows XP with SP1 and a few up grades all on one CD so it all gets installed when I install Windows XP Pro...saves LOTZ of time...
rcf1987
09-04-2004, 04:11 PM
Microsoft already announced SP2 will work on any xp warez or legit they are doing it that way so more people are virus protected and more secure
GotNoRice
09-04-2004, 04:44 PM
If he's using a legal copy, it doesn't matter. However, I think people who are bothered enough by this to create a thread, are pretty much admitting to using a warez copy.
I do computer repair, and I do come across computers that have pirated versions of Windows Installed. Honestly, it’s not my problem and not really any of my business. Since I wasn’t the one who installed the illegal copy, I could care less.
It helps to know in what situations SP2 would work or not.
I’ve found that it will work on just about any key that SP1 worked on. All the betas up till the final were really picky, but the final was not.
s_s256
09-04-2004, 05:31 PM
I'll admit i don't have a legal WinXP disk, but i borrowed my school's cd key and it has been working fine. MS don't deserve my money.
HHunt
09-04-2004, 06:11 PM
I Since I wasn’t the one who installed the illegal copy, I could care less.
You could?
XOR != OR
09-04-2004, 07:02 PM
I'll admit i don't have a legal WinXP disk, but i borrowed my school's cd key and it has been working fine. MS don't deserve my money.
Just so I'm clear: MS "don't deserve your money", but you deserve to use their product?
Metallica_Band
09-05-2004, 01:24 AM
Just so I'm clear: MS "don't deserve your money", but you deserve to use their product?Only because we don't deserve overpriced software that we can't do without...Windows XP is a standard in most PC's...Windows XP Pro is $300...then there's Office 2003 which is $500...$400 for the Standard version...
Then there's companies like Adobe...$650 for Photoshop CS...$500 for Illustrator CS...For 3d software there's the popular Maya which goes from $2,200 - $7,000 depending on the version...there's also AutoCAD which is $3,750...
Now I wouldn't mind shelling out money for software that has good support and does what it's supposed to do and has had extensive testing so I don't have to put up with bugs and unstability...Suppose there was another OS that came out of nowhere and was stable and secure and was had a GUI and features similar to Windows XP and had the same price as ($300)...everyone would switch over to this mew stable, non-buggy, secure OS...Microsoft and these other companies get away with these absurd overpriced software cause nothing beats it and they have no big competition...
There IS one popular company that DOESN'T do all these bad things...Symantec...Norton AntiVirus 2005 is stable, not buggy, has great support, and does its job well...it's $50...now for me $50 is a lot for a single game (average price for a PC game)...but I wouldn't mind saving up that much for a stable, non-buggy software that has great support...hell...there's even rebates that makes some of there stuff FREE...
In my opinion overpriced software CAUSES piracy...I mean who in their right mind would pay $300 for an unstable, buggy, unsecure OS like Windows XP if they didn't have to...ppl "have" to cause it's the most user-friendly OS out there...who at Adobe thinks that the average joe has >$600 just laying around to pay for Photoshop...or even >$150 for an upgrade...I'm positive I'm not the only one who wouldn't mind paying for software that were more reasonably priced...I bet the company's would make just as much if not MORE money if they're stuff were more reasonably priced and better tested...
Well I'm about to pass out...THANX
C'YA :cool:
P.S.: BTW...I pay for all my stuff...;) ;)
/rant for the day
GreNME
09-05-2004, 02:11 AM
Only because we don't deserve overpriced software that we can't do without...[quote]
Coming from someone with "Metallica" in their nickname, I find the irony too incredibly funny.
[quote]Windows XP is a standard in most PC's...Windows XP Pro is $300...
A price that hasn't changed in over ten years, despite inflation. While other software vendors have slowly raised their price to match inflation, Microsoft has kept theirs the same over the years. In fact, compared to the price of software (using inflation and average income) 10 or 15 years ago, Microsoft has continually offered better prices per OS release.
then there's Office 2003 which is $500...$400 for the Standard version...
Boo freaking hoo. That's a direct result of there being nothing better.
Then there's companies like Adobe...$650 for Photoshop CS...$500 for Illustrator CS...For 3d software there's the popular Maya which goes from $2,200 - $7,000 depending on the version...there's also AutoCAD which is $3,750...
None of which have to do with Microsoft's prices, except that Microsoft has kicked their asses at remaining at a certain price while others are raising theirs regularly.
Now I wouldn't mind shelling out money for software that has good support and does what it's supposed to do and has had extensive testing so I don't have to put up with bugs and unstability...
More irony with the complaining about support in one of the many public forums where free help is available. If you don't like the "unofficial" status of places like the [H], then feel free to check out one of the many free public newsgroups (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/mar01/03-27pssmvp.asp) Microsoft provides. There is no OS out there with more of a support base and official documentation out there—between the MSKB (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;KBHOWTO) and the MSDN Library (http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/) Linux is the only one that matches it in fullness of freely-available documentation. Since Windows 2000, Microsoft's testing program has included the public in a manner that only OSS can top, and even before that, public testing was larger than most.
In other words, you're full of shit.
Suppose there was another OS that came out of nowhere and was stable and secure and was had a GUI and features similar to Windows XP and had the same price as ($300)...everyone would switch over to this mew stable, non-buggy, secure OS...Microsoft and these other companies get away with these absurd overpriced software cause nothing beats it and they have no big competition...
Tell that to the Linux, *BSD, and Apple developers out there. They would beg to differ, and I would tend to agree with them. Microsoft has plenty of competition. Perhaps you should try some of the competition before writing them off.
There IS one popular company that DOESN'T do all these bad things...Symantec...Norton AntiVirus 2005 is stable, not buggy, has great support, and does its job well...it's $50...now for me $50 is a lot for a single game (average price for a PC game)...but I wouldn't mind saving up that much for a stable, non-buggy software that has great support...hell...there's even rebates that makes some of there stuff FREE...
:rolleyes: Wow, are you married to someone who works at Symantec? The major OS companies out there have rebates, partner programs, and student/teacher and non-profit incentives out there that offer their OSes for cheap or free, too.
And whomever told you NAV isn't buggy and is stable has been feeding you drugs.
In my opinion overpriced software CAUSES piracy...I mean who in their right mind would pay $300 for an unstable, buggy, unsecure OS like Windows XP if they didn't have to...ppl "have" to cause it's the most user-friendly OS out there...who at Adobe thinks that the average joe has >$600 just laying around to pay for Photoshop...or even >$150 for an upgrade...I'm positive I'm not the only one who wouldn't mind paying for software that were more reasonably priced...I bet the company's would make just as much if not MORE money if they're stuff were more reasonably priced and better tested...
More ridiculous arguments. Photoshop is not a consumer software, it is a professional software. For regular users, there are tons of cheap (under $100 US) and even free programs that will more than do everything they need. Adobe themselves offer such programs (like Photoshop Elements (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/main.html)) that are everything someone would need (they also offer educational pricing (http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/main.html) for their pro products).
Your "rant" was full of bullshit and misinformation, and is no excuse for piracy.
I could care less if you guys use legal copies of WinXP or not, but don't go spreading that stuff around here. I only have so much PM space. :p
trinketsummoner
09-05-2004, 10:30 AM
Your "rant" was full of bullshit and misinformation, and is no excuse for piracy.
There isnt a more true statement than that.
djnes
09-06-2004, 05:01 PM
I'll admit i don't have a legal WinXP disk, but i borrowed my school's cd key and it has been working fine. MS don't deserve my money.
If you ever bother to read a licensing agreement, assuming your affiliated with the school in question, than you have a legal copy.
GreNME is right...this is becoming a haven for mis-information.
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