Mr. Greg
08-14-2004, 10:14 PM
I bought a PS2 with around 6 games included from someone on the [H] around a few weeks ago (I won't give names, but the thread's still there if you want to look). The kick: It was $115 shipped.
Too good to be true, no?
I was interested, because my GF wants a PS2 (I already have one), so I PM'd him and asked him if it had any read problems, or any problems at all, along with how old it was. His exact responce:
im not totally sure on its age. cause i bought it used like a year or so ago. the only read error ive seen is it will freeze half way threw when playing some dvd's but thats rare.
Sounded good to me, my GF has a DVD player already so she won't play them on the PS2, so it won't be a problem.
I agree to buy it, and send him a Postal Money Order for $115. Since he's in Michigan, it only takes 2-3 days for him to recieve it, and to tell me that he did.
He ships it out, with a tracking number and insurance, and gives me the number (Which didn't matter, as it came 2 days later anyways, as we both thought it would).
It comes, and I open the package...
Now, at the time I believed it would work perfectly, as he said it would, so I didn't take real interest in the packaging, but as far as I recall, the package was in 3 layers, from the top:
PS2 Games (2 rows of 3, IIRC)
PS2
Packing Peanuts
He didn't put peanuts between the PS2 and Games, IIRC, so to me, it's possible that the PS2 got a tad knocked by the games in transit.
I hook up the PS2, turn on the power switch, open the disc tray, put GTA3 in, and close the disc tray, which automatically starts the system.
When you do this on a fully working PS2, the menu screen will show for a breif second, and the game will load right away.
On this PS2, the menu screen remained for at least 20 seconds, and I could hear clicking from inside the disc drive as the PS2 struggled to read the disc...
I have a mental "wtf?"; He said it worked perfectly, this should NOT be happening...
The game finally loaded, but I noticed that load times were horribly slow, and some elements of the gameplay (Some of the music stations in GTA3) didn't work.
I guess the disc drive was busted...
I immediately send him a PM about it (saying "It skips a LOT when loading games, which you never told me..."), to which he replies:
hmm skips alot? thats weird cause it didnt do that for me. i had just played gt3 before i sent it to make sure it worked fine. i know gt3 had a bad scratch on it. but i checked it and it worked fine.
I reply,
The main problem I've found with it is that when I turn it on, it goes to the PS2 Menu screen, and it just sits at the menu as if no game is in there while you can hear the disc skipping inside of the PS2 for around 15 seconds, then it finally kicks in and loads fine. I've tried Timesplitters, GTA3, and Red Faction so fare and they all do it, so it isn't the game.
His,
hmm maybe some of the foam from the peanuts got in it? maight be interfearing with the mechanisms or something in it. have any way to blow light amounts of air into it? maybe to clean off the track the laser rides on.
I find this completely odd...the PS2 is a closed system, there's no way that peanuts could of gotten in there...
I try to load games again...and this time no games load at all.
I reply,
It died on me right after I wrote you that 2nd PM. Now it doesn't load anything at all.
Shipping might of done something to it...it was insulated on the bottom, but not the top...
I'll try compressed air when I get some...
His,
ack it doesnt load anything now wtf.... i doubt it has a warranty left on it so you can probly just pop the screws out on it and look/clean it out. im guessing theres alot of dust or something. might of got knocked loose while it shipped.
Because he had authorized it, I open it up and clean the lens/check the drive as per some PS2 cleaning tutorials I find online. Nothing works.
I then buy some compressed air, and try that inside the disc drive...nothing.
I clean the lens and putz with a few gears again, and I get it to load as it did when I first got it, but still, this was NOT what I was promised and what I ordered.
My last PM to him:
I tried compressed air, didn't work worth a damn.
I opened it up and cleaned the lens/track the reader rides on using a how-to I found on the internet, and it works somewhat now...
When I tried DDRMAX, when I'd turn it on it wouldn't load, but after a few resets it runs good, but is noticably slow when it loads new things onto the PS2, as if it's taking a long time to load things...
I don't want to give negative feedback because this could of happened in transit...
Would you refund my money if I were to send it back?
I sent that yesterday at 8:27 AM. His last online time was yesterday at 5:09 AM, so he hasn't contacted me back yet.
Could he be avoiding the situation? Or am I overexaggerating already?
I've been working 10 hour days since Wednesday the 4th (Last day is tomorrow, thank god), so I haven't had time to try and catch him on AIM or anything (Which I will try and do next week if this drags on).
Here's my question to you: Is it right to ask/him to offer me a refund if I send it back? He seems to have failed to pack it right (or lied about its condition), and thus what I recieved is not what I had been promised.
If he avoids the situation, is there any way that I can get my money back? I have his name and address, but nothing more...
My girlfriend and I are very saddened by this, because this wasn't $20, this was $115, and I really had high hopes for this transaction to succeed...
Too good to be true, no?
I was interested, because my GF wants a PS2 (I already have one), so I PM'd him and asked him if it had any read problems, or any problems at all, along with how old it was. His exact responce:
im not totally sure on its age. cause i bought it used like a year or so ago. the only read error ive seen is it will freeze half way threw when playing some dvd's but thats rare.
Sounded good to me, my GF has a DVD player already so she won't play them on the PS2, so it won't be a problem.
I agree to buy it, and send him a Postal Money Order for $115. Since he's in Michigan, it only takes 2-3 days for him to recieve it, and to tell me that he did.
He ships it out, with a tracking number and insurance, and gives me the number (Which didn't matter, as it came 2 days later anyways, as we both thought it would).
It comes, and I open the package...
Now, at the time I believed it would work perfectly, as he said it would, so I didn't take real interest in the packaging, but as far as I recall, the package was in 3 layers, from the top:
PS2 Games (2 rows of 3, IIRC)
PS2
Packing Peanuts
He didn't put peanuts between the PS2 and Games, IIRC, so to me, it's possible that the PS2 got a tad knocked by the games in transit.
I hook up the PS2, turn on the power switch, open the disc tray, put GTA3 in, and close the disc tray, which automatically starts the system.
When you do this on a fully working PS2, the menu screen will show for a breif second, and the game will load right away.
On this PS2, the menu screen remained for at least 20 seconds, and I could hear clicking from inside the disc drive as the PS2 struggled to read the disc...
I have a mental "wtf?"; He said it worked perfectly, this should NOT be happening...
The game finally loaded, but I noticed that load times were horribly slow, and some elements of the gameplay (Some of the music stations in GTA3) didn't work.
I guess the disc drive was busted...
I immediately send him a PM about it (saying "It skips a LOT when loading games, which you never told me..."), to which he replies:
hmm skips alot? thats weird cause it didnt do that for me. i had just played gt3 before i sent it to make sure it worked fine. i know gt3 had a bad scratch on it. but i checked it and it worked fine.
I reply,
The main problem I've found with it is that when I turn it on, it goes to the PS2 Menu screen, and it just sits at the menu as if no game is in there while you can hear the disc skipping inside of the PS2 for around 15 seconds, then it finally kicks in and loads fine. I've tried Timesplitters, GTA3, and Red Faction so fare and they all do it, so it isn't the game.
His,
hmm maybe some of the foam from the peanuts got in it? maight be interfearing with the mechanisms or something in it. have any way to blow light amounts of air into it? maybe to clean off the track the laser rides on.
I find this completely odd...the PS2 is a closed system, there's no way that peanuts could of gotten in there...
I try to load games again...and this time no games load at all.
I reply,
It died on me right after I wrote you that 2nd PM. Now it doesn't load anything at all.
Shipping might of done something to it...it was insulated on the bottom, but not the top...
I'll try compressed air when I get some...
His,
ack it doesnt load anything now wtf.... i doubt it has a warranty left on it so you can probly just pop the screws out on it and look/clean it out. im guessing theres alot of dust or something. might of got knocked loose while it shipped.
Because he had authorized it, I open it up and clean the lens/check the drive as per some PS2 cleaning tutorials I find online. Nothing works.
I then buy some compressed air, and try that inside the disc drive...nothing.
I clean the lens and putz with a few gears again, and I get it to load as it did when I first got it, but still, this was NOT what I was promised and what I ordered.
My last PM to him:
I tried compressed air, didn't work worth a damn.
I opened it up and cleaned the lens/track the reader rides on using a how-to I found on the internet, and it works somewhat now...
When I tried DDRMAX, when I'd turn it on it wouldn't load, but after a few resets it runs good, but is noticably slow when it loads new things onto the PS2, as if it's taking a long time to load things...
I don't want to give negative feedback because this could of happened in transit...
Would you refund my money if I were to send it back?
I sent that yesterday at 8:27 AM. His last online time was yesterday at 5:09 AM, so he hasn't contacted me back yet.
Could he be avoiding the situation? Or am I overexaggerating already?
I've been working 10 hour days since Wednesday the 4th (Last day is tomorrow, thank god), so I haven't had time to try and catch him on AIM or anything (Which I will try and do next week if this drags on).
Here's my question to you: Is it right to ask/him to offer me a refund if I send it back? He seems to have failed to pack it right (or lied about its condition), and thus what I recieved is not what I had been promised.
If he avoids the situation, is there any way that I can get my money back? I have his name and address, but nothing more...
My girlfriend and I are very saddened by this, because this wasn't $20, this was $115, and I really had high hopes for this transaction to succeed...