What Cable(s) for 1080p on 360?

[Ashton]

What cables do I need for my 360 to do 1080p? (I know most games dont support but, but I have HD-DVDs that do)

I know I cant do it with the standard cables that come with the 360 (L/R/V) but I dont know if VGA Component will give me the full HD I need (I know HDMI will, but my screen does not support HDMI)

[Canon]

Does your screen support DVI? If you have an XBOX 360 with the HDMI output, you could use an adapter and this would probably do the trick.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041902&p_id=2029&seq=1&format=2

PS: You really should post the exact make and model of the display in question to get decent answers. Anything anyone can say with the details listed in this thread would be a best guess at best.

[breakbread21]

VGA will do 1080p and SOME 360 games support 1080p over component. I'm pretty sure it's listed on the back with the rest of the features (mulitplayer count, xbl, etc.)

[evanisthecoastie]

vga works with 1080p.

[Ashton]

Does your screen support DVI? If you have an XBOX 360 with the HDMI output, you could use an adapter and this would probably do the trick.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041902&p_id=2029&seq=1&format=2
PS: You really should post the exact make and model of the display in question to get decent answers. Anything anyone can say with the details listed in this thread would be a best guess at best.

It supports some form of DVI, my DVI->VGA adapter does not fit it's DVI port though so not sure, I'll check the link, thanks, might be my best option

um, ok... it's a Westinghouse 22" LCD
Model: LCM-22w2

[edifyingkarma]

your monitor doesn't support 1080p.

but id get a hdmi-dvi cable

[Ashton]

your monitor doesn't support 1080p.

but id get a hdmi-dvi cable

What? I'd sware I saw 1080 listed in the compatable resolutions...??

[heatthegreat]

usually, 22 inch monitors only support up to 1680x1050. Usually at 23in, at least from samsung, tahts when they start at 1920x1080 and 1920x1200. While 1680x1050 is still considered HD, you shouldnt be disappointed, its still high res ^^

[Ashton]

The SPEC sheet says it supports 1080i but your right, heatthegreat, the native resolution is 1680x1050, a measly 30-pixels too short... though I wonder how it manages 1080i then.....?

[z3r0-]

The SPEC sheet says it supports 1080i but your right, heatthegreat, the native resolution is 1680x1050, a measly 30-pixels too short... though I wonder how it manages 1080i then.....?

It has component inputs so I guess it accepts and scales 1080i over component somehow. You could just hook the 360 up that way and run 1080i. 1080i over component is fine.

[elrechazao]

component supports 1080p, so I wouldn't worry.

[g1xx3r]

The SPEC sheet says it supports 1080i but your right, heatthegreat, the native resolution is 1680x1050, a measly 30-pixels too short... though I wonder how it manages 1080i then.....?

It will ACCEPT a 1080 signal and downconvert it to its native res.

[TomGreen321]

Use VGA or HDmi-DVI and select 1680x1050 as your resolution. Should look damn good. Very small bars at top and bottom.

[Ripskin]

though I wonder how it manages 1080i then.....?

1080i = 1440x1080 in resolution usually.

[tricky0502]

1080i = 1440x1080 in resolution usually.

??? 1080i is 1920x1080 30hz
1080p is 1920x1080 60hz

how did you come up with 1440x1080?

[Demon10000]

What cables do I need for my 360 to do 1080p? (I know most games dont support but, but I have HD-DVDs that do)


Does the HD-DVD player require a "secure" connection via HDCP? If so, that will probably limit you to HDMI and DVI. Analog connections don't support HDCP, and I'm not sure if it will work over DVI.

[Ashton]

Does the HD-DVD player require a "secure" connection via HDCP? If so, that will probably limit you to HDMI and DVI. Analog connections don't support HDCP, and I'm not sure if it will work over DVI.

AFAIK, no. I tried it with a regular DVD several times and it plays, but since I havnt set up an HD connection yet I'v enot tried an HD-DVD... will it make a difference?

[eastpetersen]

1080i is 1440x1080 or 1366x768 depending on your tv, It is not 1920x1080. The standard component cables will output 1080i/720p which is all your display can do, and will honestly look just as good on a 22' display as 1080p would. or get a cheap version of the 360 vga cable with a dvi adapter, I honestly found the 360 and hdmi cables to be really annoying, lets just say 360s don't like hdmi switch boxes. and you can just plug the 360 hd-dvd drive into your computer and watch the hd-dvds through your pc

[tricky0502]

1080i is 1440x1080 or 1366x768 depending on your tv, It is not 1920x1080. The standard component cables will output 1080i/720p which is all your display can do, and will honestly look just as good on a 22' display as 1080p would. or get a cheap version of the 360 vga cable with a dvi adapter, I honestly found the 360 and hdmi cables to be really annoying, lets just say 360s don't like hdmi switch boxes. and you can just plug the 360 hd-dvd drive into your computer and watch the hd-dvds through your pc

how do you come up with 1080i is 1440x1080? are you talking 1080i 4x3? if you're talking 4x3 then that is correct. 1080i 16x9 is 1920x1080.

also the standard component cable the 360 comes with can output 1080p, that is how it set up on my 360.

[Kahnvex]

This has mostly been covered and some of the mis-info has been rectified but here you go.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/09/21/xbox-360-hd-dvd-playback-maximum-1080i-via-component-1080p-vga/

From Engagdget: To break it all down what you will get from the Xbox 360 after this fall's software update:

VGA:

* HD DVD - 1080p resolution and all others
* DVD - Upscaled as high as 1080p resolution and all others
* Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games in the future

Component:

* HD DVD - 1080i resolution maximum, limited by AACS
* DVD - Upscaled to 480p maximum, limited by CSS
* Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games in the future



As an addendum I can relay that the 360 will output all games (capable of or upscaled to) 1080p as long as your display accepts 1080p through it's component inputs.

[Ripskin]

??? 1080i is 1920x1080 30hz
1080p is 1920x1080 60hz

how did you come up with 1440x1080?

Several of the broadcast resolutions are in both the interlaced version and progressive (480p (720 x 480) and 480i (640 x 480).)

1080i can be wide screen standard or be used for wide screen HD as well. Several of the higher end cameras out there will shoot in 1080i at that 1440x1080 resolution for both.

And as eastpetersen said some TV's will only display 1080i in the lower resolution...
(I believe thats the cheaper / older tv's as I have not shopped for one in a few years I cannot say for sure)

Depending on the TV it will automatically up convert the incoming signal's to 1080p, which depending on the TV size 1080i will look essentially the same as the 1080p.
(Up conversion quality pending of course)

As Kahnvex said apparently the 360 will up convert certain signals out of the device itself so it might not even be an issue.

[tricky0502]

Several of the broadcast resolutions are in both the interlaced version and progressive (480p (720 x 480) and 480i (640 x 480).)

1080i can be wide screen standard or be used for wide screen HD as well. Several of the higher end cameras out there will shoot in 1080i at that 1440x1080 resolution for both.

And as eastpetersen said some TV's will only display 1080i in the lower resolution...
(I believe thats the cheaper / older tv's as I have not shopped for one in a few years I cannot say for sure)

Depending on the TV it will automatically up convert the incoming signal's to 1080p, which depending on the TV size 1080i will look essentially the same as the 1080p.
(Up conversion quality pending of course)

As Kahnvex said apparently the 360 will up convert certain signals out of the device itself so it might not even be an issue.

what you are missing is 4x3 and 16x9. 720x480 is 480p/i widescreen. 640x480 is still 480p/i just in 4x3 standard mode. just because it changes from i to p it doesnt loose any resolution, the frames per second is changed (p=60 fps, i=30 fps).

[Ashton]

Depending on the TV it will automatically up convert the incoming signal's to 1080p, which depending on the TV size 1080i will look essentially the same as the 1080p.
(Up conversion quality pending of course)

As Kahnvex said apparently the 360 will up convert certain signals out of the device itself so it might not even be an issue.

I've noticed this with my 2 TVs, using the same RCA plugs (Y/R/L) on my 22" SD TV and my 22" HDTV, I get a clearer, sharper, crisper picture on my HD TV (though this might be diff in LCD and CRT also)

Sadly I've learned the hard way that there's no going back... I tried to plug my 360 into my SDTV and winced at the picture... I'm leaving my N64 and GCN hooked upto the old TV untill I get a 2nd HDTV to replace it too because otehrwise I'll end up having to drag my LCD back and forth depending on the room I'm in!

I'm going to go with either VGA or Component. the HDMI converter is out of the question because my TV has no Audio-Out port to hook to my sterio. Likely I'll get the 3-in-1 component so I Can hook up my PS2, 360, and (xmas maybe?) PS3.

[-PK-]

I was looking at all of this recently to switch a monitor between 360 and PC. Here are some cheap sollutions depending on your monitor/tv capabilities. If you're not sharing the 360 with a PC, you could do the same thing without the switch and extra cable.


1. About $60 for all HDMI: If your monitor supports 1:1 pixel mapping and aspect ratio scaling, or is true a 720p/1080p resolution, and has a HDMI input you can use a few HDMI cables (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3992&seq=1&format=2) with a HDMI switch (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=4088&seq=1&format=2). You might need a HDMI > DVI cable (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2404&seq=1&format=2) if your graphic card has a DVI output but no HDMI. You can use the component cable for audio, cut away part of the 360 Component Cable casing so you can plug that and HDMI into the 360. Use a 3.5mm to two RCA cable to connect to your pc line-in, or whatever you need to connect to your speaker setup. Ex: Cable (http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=539) + (2) coupler (http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1160), it's hard to find a long cable with 2 female RCA's. The HDMI switch supports up to 1920x1200 resolution.


2. About $60 for all DVI-D (Digial): If your monitor supports 1:1 pixel mapping and aspect ratio scaling, or is true a 720p/1080p resolution, and has a DVI-D (Digital) input you can use a HDMI > DVI cable (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2404&seq=1&format=2) with a DVI switch (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011004&p_id=4069&seq=1&format=2) and an extra DVI cable (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10209&cs_id=1020902&p_id=2408&seq=1&format=2). You can use the component cable for audio, cut away part of the 360 Component Cable casing so you can plug that and HDMI>DVI into the 360. Use a 3.5mm to two RCA cable to connect to your pc line-in, or whatever you need to connect to your speaker setup. Ex: Cable (http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=539) + (2) coupler (http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1160), it's hard to find a long cable with 2 female RCA's. The DVI switch supports up to 1920x1200 resolution.


3. About $30-$35 for all VGA: If your monitor supports VGA and/or doesn't support 1:1 pixel mapping, you can use a ebay: 360 VGA cable (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HD-VGA-AV-2-RCA-Cable-For-Microsoft-Xbox-360_W0QQitemZ330361426532QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Acce ssories?hash=item4ceb135264) with a VGA switch (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10106&cs_id=1010601&p_id=54&seq=1&format=2) and an extra VGA cable (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812226010). Use a 3.5mm to two RCA cable to connect to your pc line-in, or whatever you need to connect to your speaker setup. Ex: Cable (http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=539) + (2) coupler (http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1160), it's hard to find a long cable with 2 female RCA's.
Here's a list of supported Xbox 360 VGA Resolutions after the NXE dash update, the 360 will upconvert and add black bars to these resolutions for your monitor:640x480
848x480
1024x768
1280x720
1280x768
1280x1024
1360x768
1440x900
1680x1050
Edit: VGA Monitor Cable from monoprice gave me horizontal ghosting lines, so I switched to a different manufacturer of the vga cable. It could have been a defective cable, but I ordered two VGA setups for me and a friend and it was the same for both of us. That cable manufacturer appears to produce nearly all of the cheap brand cables, so it was hard to find one that looks like it will work with the vga cable that comes with a monitor. Once the cable arrives, I'll update my post.