32bit?

[QwertyJuan]

Is Windows 7 seriously coming out in 32bit? I thought we were finally getting rid of 32bit? What's the reason for it?

[carnag3]

wow, are you serious, hmm let me see,
a) so what if they are, if you want 64 bit, buy that, whats the problem if they have 32 aswell,
b) BUSINESSES, im gunna go watch f1 practice, but there is so many things wrong with what you said, i will be back to rant when the practice is over. :) unless ofcourse someone else wants to step in?

[oplin]

Pretty sure netbooks and all whatever the other things are smaller than notebooks are will be using 32 bit for cost. I don't think MS wanted to leave them out or all to linux, since ms isn't supporting xp in a while it makes sense for them to do it.

I think they should just start fresh with 64bit on win 7 but it would cause alot of problems.

[FoxhoundOp]

Believe it or not, there are still people with computers with computers that aren't 64-bit capable.

[pallesen]

Believe it or not, there are still people with computers with computers that aren't 64-bit capable.

Doesn't that lead to another question?

[sdotbrucato]

wow, are you serious, hmm let me see,
a) so what if they are, if you want 64 bit, buy that, whats the problem if they have 32 aswell,
b) BUSINESSES, im gunna go watch f1 practice, but there is so many things wrong with what you said, i will be back to rant when the practice is over. :) unless ofcourse someone else wants to step in?

I'll step in :D

businesses need 32bit support. They have old legacy applications, that work just fine, and would cost an amazing amount to upgrade, or rewrite. 16bit applications are still floating around and there has to be support for them.

I'm sure MS would love to just drop the 32bit OS, and make things easier on themselves, they just cant afford to lose their biggest customer.

Besides, most OEM companies are shipping their PCs with Vista x64, I'd image they'd ship Windows 7 with x64. 32bit is just there, just in case.

[carnag3]

yes, thats right, believe it or not microsoft makes only a bit of its profit from me and you, the truth is their biggest customer by far is businesses, it is like Telstra in Australia, they dotn give ashit about you and me suppor twise because us leaving them costs them nothing, it is businesses that pay the big bucks.

[MrWizard6600]

I'll step in :D

businesses need 32bit support. They have old legacy applications, that work just fine, and would cost an amazing amount to upgrade, or rewrite. 16bit applications are still floating around and there has to be support for them.

I'm sure MS would love to just drop the 32bit OS, and make things easier on themselves, they just cant afford to lose their biggest customer.

Besides, most OEM companies are shipping their PCs with Vista x64, I'd image they'd ship Windows 7 with x64. 32bit is just there, just in case.

Banking is a prime example.

You think online banking is entirely 21st century? They're still running systems from the 80's on the back end.

[carnag3]

i knew other people would answer for me, who watched qualifying? Omg @ Brawn gp :(, good on em but.

[QwertyJuan]

Ok, I just remember reading something from MS about 2 years ago saying that the next version of windows would probably be 64bit only.... I hope the vendors don't ship any machines with it(meaning 32bit)....

[SuperSubZero]

If it means anything, Server 2008 R2 (aka Windows 7 Server) will be strictly 64-bit. At least that's the plan so far.

[QwertyJuan]

If it means anything, Server 2008 R2 (aka Windows 7 Server) will be strictly 64-bit. At least that's the plan so far.

Maybe that is waht I recall reading?

[Rebel44]

Windows 7 will be last consumer version of Windows with 32bit version

http://www.hardfolding.com/fhtag.php/mem/259553/27/0.png (http://www.hardfolding.com/fh_stats/?pz=102&tnum=33&id=259553)

[othellomcbane]

I really don't understand this question. Sure, RAM is cheap, but in the mainstream computer world, how many people actually have more than 4 gigs of RAM in their PC? Even simpler than that, Microsoft cannot afford another Vista. And the whole problem with Vista? People tried to upgrade and it was a mess. If they did this with Windows 7, once again, all you would ever hear about would be endless complaints about compatibility and impossible upgrades. What about all the businesses that want to upgrade from 32 bit windows XP?

You cannot upgrade a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS, and that's really all there is to it. (By upgrade, I mean a literal upgrade--you can of course do a clean install, but Microsoft doesn't want to alienate the mainstream crowd like that) We, on a forum like this, are not a representative sample of the mainstream. Very few people are currently running 64 bit OS's. Very few people, if you asked, would even be able to tell you if they were or not. Until the majority of vendors (Dell, et al) have been shipping the vast majority of new PC's with 64 bit OS' for a few years previous, there is no way Microsoft is going to throw out an OS in 64 bit only--a distinction that the average consumer is not going to understand or care about, and which will piss a great number of people off if the transition is less than seamless.

[Mithent]

There are reasons for continuing to sell Windows 7 with a 32-bit version. But I would definitely like to see them sell 64-bit as the default - let 64-bit be the version you buy at retail and have to send in for a DVD if you still require 32-bit support, and pressure OEMs to install 64-bit on everything capable of using it.

[QwertyJuan]

I really don't understand this question. Sure, RAM is cheap, but in the mainstream computer world, how many people actually have more than 4 gigs of RAM in their PC? Even simpler than that, Microsoft cannot afford another Vista. And the whole problem with Vista? People tried to upgrade and it was a mess. If they did this with Windows 7, once again, all you would ever hear about would be endless complaints about compatibility and impossible upgrades. What about all the businesses that want to upgrade from 32 bit windows XP?

You cannot upgrade a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS, and that's really all there is to it. (By upgrade, I mean a literal upgrade--you can of course do a clean install, but Microsoft doesn't want to alienate the mainstream crowd like that) We, on a forum like this, are not a representative sample of the mainstream. Very few people are currently running 64 bit OS's. Very few people, if you asked, would even be able to tell you if they were or not. Until the majority of vendors (Dell, et al) have been shipping the vast majority of new PC's with 64 bit OS' for a few years previous, there is no way Microsoft is going to throw out an OS in 64 bit only--a distinction that the average consumer is not going to understand or care about, and which will piss a great number of people off if the transition is less than seamless.

I have just noticed the last while people are wanting to upgrade to 4GB or more of ram(most have NO need of this whatsoever), and when I tell them that because they are running a 32bit OS, that there is no need, they are starting to question why...