Crappiest Windows 7 system that dosen't run like crap.

[heatlesssun]

Simple enough. Just wondering how low can you go with 7. My oldest system is a five year old Athlon 64 3400+ with 2GB of RAM and it runs great. But so does Vista.

[OmegaAvenger]

windows 7 has less overhead than vista does. Also vistas "minimum specs" were lowered because intel paid microsoft to do so. Otherwise all those pcs with intel graphics wouldnt of been "vista capable."

[sdotbrucato]

windows 7 has less overhead than vista does. Also vistas "minimum specs" were lowered because intel paid microsoft to do so. Otherwise all those pcs with intel graphics wouldnt of been "vista capable."

bold claim... links to back that up?

[YeOldeStonecat]

Back when W7 beta was just out...someone here posted they installed it on a laptop with a Pentium M 1.something, and 1.5 gigs or so, and it felt like it was running WinXP.

[gesicht]

laptop celeron 530 @1.7 with 1 gig of ram. x3100 onboard video. in vista i couldn't run aero 2.7 3d score in 7 i can run aero 3.2 score runs smooth but, turned it off. no need to work 3D when just browsing files.

i think it is just the drivers that made the difference because all 3d stuff runs better so far, just lack of driver options dont alow me force somethings off to play games i shouldn't be playing with onboard crap video card.

anyway runs great on celeron 530 with 1 gig of ram x3100 video.

[brucedeluxe169]

windows 7 has less overhead than vista does. Also vistas "minimum specs" were lowered because intel paid microsoft to do so. Otherwise all those pcs with intel graphics wouldnt of been "vista capable."

the GMA 950 runs aero very well at resolutions of 1280x1024 and lower

the x3100 runs aero exceptionally well at most any resolution you can buy a laptop with....

[Joe Average]

Vista was designed with the GMA950 in mind, just as OSX was. Intel collaborated with both Microsoft and Apple at the same time for the release of their respective OSes and asked "What will you be needing in terms of basic support for your GUIs..." So the GMA950 and everything after it will handle anything Vista and Windows 7 as well as Leopard and Snow Leopard require for a few more years.

They work just fine... the GMA950 and everything newer can play even 1080p content without breaking a sweat - it's an actual 256 bit GPU, it just can't play 3D stuff for shit... :)

[OmegaAvenger]

bold claim... links to back that up?

my laptop boots in roughly half the time when running windows 7 x64 vs windows vista ultimate x64. exact same software installed. That and I think I've seen quite a few other people here and around the web say it.

Also yes the Intel 945/GMA950 does run aero. Thats what my laptop has.. its the Intel 915 that is NOT capable:
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2008/03/the-vista-capable-debacle-intel-pushes-microsoft-bends.ars

[MechGeek]

some people have installed on machines with 512MB. :eek:

[OmegaAvenger]

some people have installed on machines with 512MB. :eek:

any machine running a version of windows higher than xp with 512mb of ram is an abomination in my opinion. But to each their own.

[g1tigi]

hmm I'm very tempted to try win7 on my T30, given ppl's responses that it doesn't run too horribly (winVista on the T30 was a joke...took like 5 seconds just to open up windows explorer). I'll try it after my new laptop comes in and post some results.

[heatlesssun]

hmm I'm very tempted to try win7 on my T30, given ppl's responses that it doesn't run too horribly (winVista on the T30 was a joke...took like 5 seconds just to open up windows explorer). I'll try it after my new laptop comes in and post some results.

What's a T30? The specs I mean. Thanks!

[rampantandroid]

A coworker has it running on an HP Mini (1 GB RAM, 1.something Intel Atom) and he can run outlook/VS on it fine...W7 runs on Netbooks fine. :)

[g1tigi]

oh, sorry, assumed the sig would give it away ;), it's a thinkpad

P4-M 1.8GHz (512KB)
512MB RAM [1 DIMM]
16MB RADEON 7500 ATI Mobility video chipset
40.0GB HDD [hitachi travelstar, 4200rpm]

[heatlesssun]

oh, sorry, assumed the sig would give it away ;), it's a thinkpad

P4-M 1.8GHz (512KB)
512MB RAM [1 DIMM]
16MB RADEON 7500 ATI Mobility video chipset
40.0GB HDD [hitachi travelstar, 4200rpm]

If you're up for it please give it a shot. If it runs well on that then I think that maybe the whole argument that Windows needs a lot of hardware goes down the drain. That's almost 10 year old hardware isn't it?

[g1tigi]

2003 hardware, so *only* 6 years old.:rolleyes:

[heatlesssun]

2003 hardware, so *only* 6 years old.:rolleyes:

That's still old enough to get a good idea I would think, especially on a laptop, the laptop population as a percentage of the whole that old must be fairly small as laptops have just recently been selling as well as they are now. Todays netbooks are probably a bit faster and some even have Aero capable GPU's now.

[MrWizard6600]

bold claim... links to back that up?

nope, intel likes to keep it that way, but its true.

The lower end intel integrated hardware has trouble with aero.

[brucedeluxe169]

That's still old enough to get a good idea I would think, especially on a laptop, the laptop population as a percentage of the whole that old must be fairly small as laptops have just recently been selling as well as they are now. Todays netbooks are probably a bit faster and some even have Aero capable GPU's now.

im pretty sure *every* atom equipped netbook has an aero capable GPU

[YeOldeStonecat]

If you're up for it please give it a shot. If it runs well on that then I think that maybe the whole argument that Windows needs a lot of hardware goes down the drain. That's almost 10 year old hardware isn't it?

The machine I referred to in above post was an IBM Thinkpad T20 series..a T22 or T23 I think...a generation older and slower than the T30.

I thought it was Joe Average that did that install...

[greyeyezz]

Athlon 64 3000+, 2G ram, X800 GTO. Win7 and Vista are about equal speedwise. Word 2007 opens in 1.8 sec.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/greyeyezz/Capture3.png

[brucedeluxe169]

Athlon 64 3000+, 2G ram, X800 GTO. Win7 and Vista are about equal speedwise. Word 2007 opens in 1.8 sec.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/greyeyezz/Capture3.png

that's not a crappy computer...

[crawford60]

some people have installed on machines with 512MB. :eek:

any machine running a version of windows higher than xp with 512mb of ram is an abomination in my opinion. But to each their own.

I have it running on my old Sony Vaio PCG-Z1WA. It runs fast enough to do basic internet/email/office stuff. I didn't expect it be the snappiest thing when I installed it, but it does run faster than I thought it would. By no means is it painful to run it with on there but of course, Aero is disabled. (Normally I run Xubuntu on that laptop)

Pentium M 1.7GHz
1 x 512 MB DDR, 266 MHz
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 (16 MB)

[heatlesssun]

I have it running on my old Sony Vaio PCG-Z1WA. It runs fast enough to do basic internet/email/office stuff. I didn't expect it be the snappiest thing when I installed it, but it does run faster than I thought it would. By no means is it painful to run it with on there but of course, Aero is disabled. (Normally I run Xubuntu on that laptop)

Pentium M 1.7GHz
1 x 512 MB DDR, 266 MHz
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 (16 MB)

Cool, so it runs well with only 512MB. That's kind of what I wanted to know. Thanks!

[Cursed]

When I manage to steal a hard drive from school for an old PC, I might try it on my PIII with 384MB SDRAM... I doubt it's Aero capable :rolleyes:

[Grimmda]

Cool, so it runs well with only 512MB. That's kind of what I wanted to know. Thanks!

This was talked about in another thread somewhere and I'll say the same thing here. A co-worker installed Win7 on an HP DC5100 with 512MB RAM and a 3.2Ghz Intel...

It ran great before he put office 2007 on it... then it was a dog. And the video card, an internal "128MB 910GL Chipset" couldn't do aero...

[xorbe]

Should I drag the ol' 500MHz celery eMachine w/pci nvidia out of the closet? :o

[Lepard]

Should I drag the ol' 500MHz celery eMachine w/pci nvidia out of the closet? :o

Yes, definitely. Post your impressions too.

[xorbe]

Looks like there are no nVidia Vista 32-bit drivers for 4-series cards. Guess the machine is a little too old.

[GreenMonkey]

Should I drag the ol' 500MHz celery eMachine w/pci nvidia out of the closet? :o

Get me a voodoo3 driver and I'll try to run it on my 333mhz celery! I think it's got a 10gb hdd in it though (or an 8gb) so that would be pretty tight on space.

:cool:

[Archer75]

laptop celeron 530 @1.7 with 1 gig of ram. x3100 onboard video. in vista i couldn't run aero 2.7 3d score in 7 i can run aero 3.2 score runs smooth but, turned it off. no need to work 3D when just browsing files.


Those scores mean nothing. They don't even rate hardware the same way in 7. I really wish people would stop looking at that. It's beyond useless.

[heatlesssun]

Those scores mean nothing. They don't even rate hardware the same way in 7. I really wish people would stop looking at that. It's beyond useless.

Actually a 3 or higher business graphics score means that you can run Aero in Vista and 7 just like the poster discovered.

[Jon55]

Looks like there are no nVidia Vista 32-bit drivers for 4-series cards. Guess the machine is a little too old.

Nonsense. :rolleyes:

[xorbe]

Nonsense. :rolleyes:

The machine is too old, or the drivers? If the latter, where is the driver (or is it built into Vista?)

[Jon55]

The machine is too old, or the drivers? If the latter, where is the driver (or is it built into Vista?)

The machine dude. An Nvidia 4 series would melt the plastic it came in it's so fast. :p

[dajet24]

bold claim... links to back that up?

this was reported as true many times months back. MS is looken at payen alot of money over it.

http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2008/03/the-vista-capable-debacle-intel-pushes-microsoft-bends.ars

[zaxour]

this was reported as true many times months back. MS is looken at payen alot of money over it.

http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2008/03/the-vista-capable-debacle-intel-pushes-microsoft-bends.ars

Doesn't say Intel paid MS to artificially lower the system requirements, but yes, they definitely pressured them to lower it since they had a financial interest in it.

[Jerome36]

Over the weekend engadget had this story (http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/31/windows-7-gets-installed-on-amtek-u560-umpc-whats-next/) on their site, with a link to a video. Windows 7 installed on an Amtek U560 UMPC (A100 processor @ 600MHz. and 512MB RAM).

[Casper312]

I have an old Dell with a Pentium 4 @ 2.8Ghz, 512mb of ram, with Integrated graphics from the looks of it, Got the computer from one of my dads friends from their work so i can play with. I also have a Compaq Armada Laptop around here somewhere, i think the specs are pentium 3, 512mb ram and some random graphics chip.

How big is Windows 7? My crappy At&t internet might steer me away from testing since i need to finish downloading some game mods :(

[Sarian]

A few days ago I installed Windows7 on my Dell Inspirion 8600 from 2004.... Pentium M 1.6ghz, 768mb of ram, 120gb hdd and Radeon 9600 mobile. Runs everything fine. It's not as snappy as my main machine, but it feels very similar to when it was running XP. It earned a massive 2.9 widows experience rating :)

[4saken]

Asus 904ha eeepc.

1.6ghz atom
2gb ddr2
intel GMA950

Runs windows 7 superbly with aero.

[Azhar]

Runs great on my spare laptop, an HP Business Notebook nx7400 with a Centrino Duo 1.83ghz and 512mb RAM and an Intel video chip. No hiccups, no slowdowns, nothing. Even Office 2007 Enterprise loads very quickly on it.

[stefan231]

Running win7 on this laptop and is snappy and has no problems. Scores a 3 on Windows Experience in Win7

"Toshiba Satellite P205D-S7802 Refurbished Notebook PC - AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile TL-58 1.9GHz, 802.11b/g Wireless, 2GB DDR2, 160GB HDD, 17" WXGA+, DL DVDRW,"