New install, one XP disc, 2 computers...

[PLmatt91]

I installed XP onto this computer 4 times because of corruption or some one messed up something. It said my key was used too many times, so I called the number and got it registered fine.

My sister's laptop how ever has a ' leaked ' or ' pirated ' version of XP Pro from her friend, which totally runs like crap now. If I use my XP disc to install XP for her, and then register it by calling the Microsoft number it gives me, will it let me register it like that? Would I need to give them the CD Key that came with my XP and just say I'm installing XP on another computer also?

Please and thank you.

[BIGDADDY51]

You can't use 1 copy of XP on 2 computers. In order to make hers legit, you need to buy another copy of XP.

[ScYcS]

I installed XP onto this computer 4 times because of corruption or some one messed up something. It said my key was used too many times, so I called the number and got it registered fine.

My sister's laptop how ever has a ' leaked ' or ' pirated ' version of XP Pro from her friend, which totally runs like crap now. If I use my XP disc to install XP for her, and then register it by calling the Microsoft number it gives me, will it let me register it like that? Would I need to give them the CD Key that came with my XP and just say I'm installing XP on another computer also?

Please and thank you.


WTF?

[GORANKAR]

I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt on this one..

You can use the same disc but need to purchase a new key..
Can do it online in a matter of a few minutes..
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.mspx

Piracy talk will get you banned.. If you are trying to go legit then great otherwise.............................

[PLmatt91]

^^

I have 1 copy of OEM Windows XP Home.

I want to use that again for another computer.

If I cancel the registration of XP and have the 30 days to activate it, can I call XP and get another key for it to register?

If you said it won't let me do it again, then why did it let me do it on this computer 5 times, when one time was already activated and working?

[MrGuvernment]

you did it 5 times on the same computer, thas diff.

2 compltely diff computers is against MS EULA.

bottom line is you need a 2nd CD key.

now the key you buy online from MS is it an OEM key, or a retail key, cause they are 2 diff types of keys.

[PLmatt91]

How much is the key?

And I didn't install it by pirating it. I never have either. That's why I bought a new XP for this one PC.

[General Crespin]

You can use the same disc but need to purchase a new key..
Can do it online in a matter of a few minutes..
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.mspx

Read up. ;)

[Soujiro]

I find buying an additional license directly from MS is a ripoff. You can get a second license cheaper if you bundle a copy of OEM XP with your next hardware upgrade *cough* cables *cough*, and you'll get a vista upgrade coupon to boot!

[MajorDomo]

Best deal going (http://officedepot.shoplocal.com/officedepot/default.aspx?action=detail&flashbrowse=y&storeid=2279352&rapid=348614&pagenumber=4&listingid=-2093953825&ref=%2fofficedepot%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrowsepageflash %26storeid%3d2279352%26pagenumber%3d4%26rapid%3d348614%26prv id%3dOfficeDepot-061217) starting tomorrow ;)

[LstOfTheBrunnenG]

That deal looks crazy!

[ryan_975]

Best deal going (http://officedepot.shoplocal.com/officedepot/default.aspx?action=detail&flashbrowse=y&storeid=2279352&rapid=348614&pagenumber=4&listingid=-2093953825&ref=%2fofficedepot%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrowsepageflash %26storeid%3d2279352%26pagenumber%3d4%26rapid%3d348614%26prv id%3dOfficeDepot-061217) starting tomorrow ;)

ugh, mail-in rebate. I detest those.

[MajorDomo]

No one likes MIR's, but that's where the deals are....Office Depot has a really good reputation on their MIR. I just received $340 this week in rebates from them. At any rate, $39 is about the best deal going on a legal copy of XP Home you are going to find anywhere.

ugh, mail-in rebate. I detest those.

[PLmatt91]

It's an upgrade... So would that mean it's still the full copy of XP? This guy at another forum said not to get the upgrade version but just to get the OEM one instead.

[Frank4d]

It's an upgrade... So would that mean it's still the full copy of XP? This guy at another forum said not to get the upgrade version but just to get the OEM one instead.

You can't use an upgrade version for that PC. You'll need OEM or full retail version.

[PLmatt91]

So I can install my XP OEM disc and use the upgrade to activate it, what?

[ryan_975]

So I can install my XP OEM disc and use the upgrade to activate it, what?

No. If you use an OEM disc, you have to have an OEM key. If you use an Upgrade/Retail disc, then you have to have an Upgrade/Retail key.


In order to buy and use an Upgrade version you have to own a copy of Windows 98/ME or Windows 2000.

[PLmatt91]

Forget thatt.

[roz1281]

i have a question, I bought an OEM version of windows xp home. I'm using it to install xp on a new pc i built. Someday If i want to use that copy of windows on a different PC , will it let me? Because i saw some piece of paper with it that made it sound like ti could only ever be used on the original hardware it was installed on. Which would piss me off because I bought it from newegg where it didnt' have a warning about that or anything.

BTW im not talking about rnning it on 2 pcs at once, just if i wanted to build a new system 2 years from now, could i use that copy of xp .

[ryan_975]

i have a question, I bought an OEM version of windows xp home. I'm using it to install xp on a new pc i built. Someday If i want to use that copy of windows on a different PC , will it let me? Because i saw some piece of paper with it that made it sound like ti could only ever be used on the original hardware it was installed on. Which would piss me off because I bought it from newegg where it didnt' have a warning about that or anything.

BTW im not talking about rnning it on 2 pcs at once, just if i wanted to build a new system 2 years from now, could i use that copy of xp .

Officially, no, OEM versions are tied to the first computer you install and/or activate them on. That's the price you pay for saving $100. However, MS rarely denies phone activation when transferring them to a new computer.

[roz1281]

Cool. Yea i paid $80 for it xp home sp2. I hope it woorks because I'm sure this OS will be transferred in the future as i don't plan on upgrading everything to vista.

Sucks that OS's are so expensive.

[ryan_975]

Cool. Yea i paid $80 for it xp home sp2. I hope it woorks because I'm sure this OS will be transferred in the future as i don't plan on upgrading everything to vista.

Sucks that OS's are so expensive.

Wel it is something that you use day in and day out for several years. So name something else that is used as much and isn't expensive.

[roz1281]

I buy them don't I? :) I just wish windows was cheaper. Like $100 for the retail home edition would be great at launch.

Most linux distro's that are complete supported OS's are $20-$100.

You use your car everday but don't you wish it could be cheaper? If i accepted everything happily i wouldn't be human

[Zepher]

OEM versions of XP are tied to the original motherboard that was purchased when the OEM version of XP was bought. This is in the EULA of XP.
When I say tied, I don't mean that the OEM version won't work on any other hardware, I am stating that it is tied legally to that board according to MS.

OEM Microsoft Windows (including XP Pro and XP Home) Licensing Changes You Need To Know About!

Link to Blog for the Microsoft Small Business Channel Community explaining the OEM licensing changes. No password is needed to access this blog.
* The information below is supplied for informational purposes only, it is not definitive confirmation of the legality of the EULA and should be used as a guideline for what Microsoft defines as a new computer. Use this information for plotting your upgrade strategy for OEM EULA compliance when activating.

The OEM licensing changes makes the below information obsolete as far as purchasing OEM software, but the information is still relevant pertaining to OEM versions obtained before the license change and OEM media supplied by system builders.


The End User License Agreement (EULA) for OEM software, including Windows XP, states that the software is licensed as a single integrated product in connection with the hardware. However, it's important to remember that the end user cannot see nor accept the electronic EULA until the software is installed on a fully-assembled computer system. So, even though the original OEM software unit may have been distributed with a component, like a hard drive, it isn't until the software is installed on a fully-assembled computer system that it becomes "married" to the hardware.

http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/Public/sblicense/English_SB_License.pdf

In general, OEM software may not be transferred from one system to another system. However, the computer system can certainly be updated with new components without the requirement of a new software license. The only exception to this is the motherboard 1. If the motherboard is replaced 2, the computer system is deemed "new" and a new license would be required. Other PC components may be upgraded, including a hard drive. Though if the hard drive 3 is replaced/upgraded, the operating system must first be removed from the old hard drive. To restate: the operating system is "married" to the computer system on which it is originally installed.

If you haven't already, please take a moment to review a comprehensive group of OEM Licensing Questions and Answers which are specific to system builders:
https://oem.microsoft.com/worldwide/514341.asp.

[roz1281]

lol, motherboard is the first thing I would replace on this particular machine, all the other parts would migrate.

[zone_86]

Actually on a 3rd spare machine I went through 3 Soyo, 2 Biostar, 1 Shuttle, 1 Asus and 2 ECS boards -- all on one XP OEM OS. It's actually tied to the original HDD so they told me on the phone. I migrated the same 80 gig HDD on all of those installs -- even though the boot drives eventually changed as long as I kept the original HDD that XP was installed on it was ok. Of course I had to call a few times to reactivate but that was not biggie. I didn't go through all of those boards because of anything wrong with setups it was just to test and benchmark different boards

[ryan_975]

Actually on a 3rd spare machine I went through 3 Soyo, 2 Biostar, 1 Shuttle, 1 Asus and 2 ECS boards -- all on one XP OEM OS. It's actually tied to the original HDD so they told me on the phone. I migrated the same 80 gig HDD on all of those installs -- even though the boot drives eventually changed as long as I kept the original HDD that XP was installed on it was ok. Of course I had to call a few times to reactivate but that was not biggie. I didn't go through all of those boards because of anything wrong with setups it was just to test and benchmark different boards

According to MS's own site and EULA a computer is defined as the motherboard in it. So when the OEM version gets tied to the computer it's tied to the motherboard, not the hard drive. I've change out several dead hard drives over the years on different machines and never once had a problem with activation. But EVERYtime I changed out the motherboard on an OEM installed machine, I had to phone in and explain why I'm re-installing.

[BIGDADDY51]

According to MS's own site and EULA a computer is defined as the motherboard in it. So when the OEM version gets tied to the computer it's tied to the motherboard, not the hard drive. I've change out several dead hard drives over the years on different machines and never once had a problem with activation. But EVERYtime I changed out the motherboard on an OEM installed machine, I had to phone in and explain why I'm re-installing. Hence, the "DEFECTIVE MOTHERBOARD clause, that allows changing out that"bad" board. Yes it does take a phone call, but you get used to it

[zone_86]

According to MS's own site and EULA a computer is defined as the motherboard in it. So when the OEM version gets tied to the computer it's tied to the motherboard, not the hard drive. I've change out several dead hard drives over the years on different machines and never once had a problem with activation. But EVERYtime I changed out the motherboard on an OEM installed machine, I had to phone in and explain why I'm re-installing.

I was pretty sure the MS rep had it wrong when She said that, and I did tell fibs about capacitors blown or whatever I felt like saying to get the systems activated. I didn't mind calling in about it.

[ryan_975]

Hence, the "DEFECTIVE MOTHERBOARD clause, that allows changing out that"bad" board. Yes it does take a phone call, but you get used to it

no, no. It's "CATASTROPHIC FAILURE" now :D. I think the intent of that clause was to replace the "defective" board with one of the same model. But hey it's their license, if they want to let anyone transfer it, then it's all the better for me. :)

[thespymaster]

no, no. It's "CATASTROPHIC FAILURE" now :D. I think the intent of that clause was to replace the "defective" board with one of the same model. But hey it's their license, if they want to let anyone transfer it, then it's all the better for me. :)

I've been kinda wondering 'bout this as well. I'm the geek at work that fixes everyones computer and the other day, one of my co-workers brought me an HP to fix...turns out the Mobo is bad and I happen to have a spare mATX Socket 754 laying around...his was a Socket "A" so that means new proc and memory as well...all other components stayed the same...his case has the approriate COA affixed and I have an XP Home disc to install on it but was a bit skeptical because of the licensing...do you guys think it'll be OK and after the registration call to MS...will they approve a new install?

[ryan_975]

I've been kinda wondering 'bout this as well. I'm the geek at work that fixes everyones computer and the other day, one of my co-workers brought me an HP to fix...turns out the Mobo is bad and I happen to have a spare mATX Socket 754 laying around...his was a Socket "A" so that means new proc and memory as well...all other components stayed the same...his case has the approriate COA affixed and I have an XP Home disc to install on it but was a bit skeptical because of the licensing...do you guys think it'll be OK and after the registration call to MS...will they approve a new install?

They did for me on my eMachines a couple years ago. They ask for the brand and model of the computer and why you're reinstalling. Just tell them it's an HP blahblahblah and that the motherboard died and HP no longer sells a replacement. They almost always give out the activation code. In fact I've never heard of them not doing it.

[zone_86]

In fact one of those very activations I was talking about came from a mobo that I sold to a guy that posted above me. :)