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cb9fl
12-11-2006, 02:41 PM
http://www.wii-volution.com/images/wii/meridianblade/wii_gfx.jpg

MrBojangels
12-11-2006, 02:49 PM
So this means 9/10 Wii looks worse or equal to last gen?

cb9fl
12-11-2006, 02:51 PM
I thought Tony Hawk on the Wii looked a hell of a lot better than the Xbox version.

kumquat
12-11-2006, 02:52 PM
All of the Wii games look better than the ones they're compared with, even the ones that look like they were using composite video.

MrBojangels
12-11-2006, 03:11 PM
IMO

Madden 07 GCN>Wii
COD2 vs COD3 isn't even a fair comparison
Mario GCN=Wii
Monkey Ball GCN=Wii
Sonic Xbox>Wii
Tony Hawk GCN<Wii
Metroid GCN<Wii

Last gen-4
Wii-4

Draax
12-11-2006, 03:13 PM
Comparing entirely different frames, and not similiar frames = fail.

JohnleMVP
12-11-2006, 03:39 PM
Its an interesting comparison but its really not an accurate test as the same device was not used to capture these images. Though many of them have the ign water mark on them I believe they are released screen shots from publishers or other sources, not actually screenshots done by IGN. Plus some are clearly composite cable vs component cable shots. I've never seen xbox 1 look that bad on components. (tony hawk)

quadnad
12-11-2006, 03:50 PM
good lord...as the posts above pointed out, the shots above aren't even the same shots or are taken from E3 demos of games that aren't released yet...

it seems like there are a lot of people who are trying to make it out like the Wii isn't as powerful as the last generation of consoles, or that it doesn't have the capability to look better; it is more powerful and it most definitely does have the capability to look better.

so many of the titles out for the Wii right now are multiplatform or straight ports of the last generation, which is why some don't look any better. that will change.

BladeVenom
12-11-2006, 04:18 PM
What? I don't understand the controversy. The Wii looks better in all those shots than the previous generation. Sure it isn't nearly the difference you'd see with the other two consoles, but it does look better.

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 04:33 PM
What? I don't understand the controversy. The Wii looks better in all those shots than the previous generation. Sure it isn't nearly the difference you'd see with the other two consoles, but it does look better.

I'm not so sure...Personally I put it like this:
Madden: Gamecube
CoD: Wii
Mario: Wii
SMB: Gamecube
Sonic: Tough call but possibly Wii due to Sonic's superior character model
Tony Hawks: Wii
Metroid: same (at the moment)

3far4shot
12-11-2006, 04:33 PM
the WII is not even more powerful then the X-box

Bad_Boy
12-11-2006, 04:35 PM
the WII is not even more powerful then the X-box
Isnt the Wii supposed to be 3 times as powerful as the gamecube?

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 04:36 PM
Isnt the Wii supposed to be 3 times as powerful as the gamecube?

more like x1.5 so I hear, which isn't terrible if you look at later titles such as RE4..

CopyCat
12-11-2006, 04:39 PM
this post is irrelevant.

The Wii was not marketed for super graphics, so lets not even put it in that category. Lets instead compare the gameplay. I am sure the Wii does better in most of those categories?

I dont know though as I haven't gotten one yet.

quadnad
12-11-2006, 04:40 PM
I'm not so sure...Personally I put it like this:
Madden: Gamecube
CoD: Wii
Mario: Wii
SMB: Gamecube
Sonic: Tough call but possibly Wii due to Sonic's superior character model
Tony Hawks: Wii
Metroid: same (at the moment)

I was going to leave some of this alone, but wtf are you people doing calling these comparisons when they aren't the same/similar shots, aren't the same sources, and some are from E3 demos....

jesus christ...

3far4shot
12-11-2006, 04:41 PM
^^^^ i agree

but COMON we like fun but we dont want to play atari i mean they can at least IMPROVE the graphics a little to make our money worth while..... this is 2006 we want FUN and Graphics

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 04:43 PM
I was going to leave some of this alone, but wtf are you people doing calling these comparisons when they aren't the same/similar shots, aren't the same sources, and some are from E3 demos....

jesus christ...

If you'd like to provide more 'accurate' comparisons then go ahead, I'm just using what I can from the topic...

quadnad
12-11-2006, 04:45 PM
If you'd like to provide more 'accurate' comparisons then go ahead, I'm just using what I can from the topic...

mhmm...

what I'm saying is you can't come to any conclusion about those. I just think it's hilarious when I read people posting things like this as though they're a valid comparison.

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 04:52 PM
Well they're not exactly an awful comparison. Not the same angled shots? you still get the gist of the difference in texture details etc.

quadnad
12-11-2006, 04:56 PM
Well they're not exactly an awful comparison. Not the same angled shots? you still get the gist of the difference in texture details etc.

not just different angles, they're taken from different sources (different original resolutions), different stages of development, shown as thumbnails, and passed off as comparable. they aren't; just take a look at the PS3 v 360 comparison done by gamespot recently. Now those shots are comparable because they've controlled entirely for the hardware setup (capture method), and as best they could for the screenshot detail. heck, they're even nice enough to overlay the two shots!

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 04:57 PM
Well that I'll agree is an unfair representation but until someone provides a better comparison in the thread it's what we have to use...

cb9fl
12-11-2006, 04:58 PM
Lets instead compare the gameplay. I am sure the Wii does better in most of those categories?

Why do you assume the Wii is better in gameplay than the other consoles? I own a Wii, 360 and computer. I find myself playing the computer and 360 all the time while the Wii (Zelda and Sports) collects dust. It is apparent some other people feel differently but to assume that the Wii is better with regards to gameplay is simply a biased opinion.

theDreamer
12-11-2006, 04:58 PM
But its not what you have to use.

Why use something you know is faulty (or false)?
You wouldn't, the same goes for these pictures.

quadnad
12-11-2006, 04:59 PM
But its not what you have to use.

Why use something you know is faulty (or false)?
You wouldn't, the same goes for these pictures.
qft

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 05:04 PM
I could the same analogy with a car. You have a car which is a bit faulty but you still use it because you cannot afford the repair or a new car. Pointless analogy? Yep.

quadnad
12-11-2006, 05:06 PM
I could the same analogy with a car. You have a car which is a bit faulty but you still use it because you cannot afford the repair or a new car. Pointless analogy? Yep.

pointless analogy? no, poor analogy. It's more like saying you must compare the drawing I made of a new car to the older model, and base everything you think about the new model on "what you have" which is my shitty idea of the new model.

point is, this thread is....pointless. the thumbnails aren't comparable.

theDreamer
12-11-2006, 05:07 PM
I could the same analogy with a car. You have a car which is a bit faulty but you still use it because you cannot afford the repair or a new car. Pointless analogy? Yep.

That is not even the same analogy...
You are comparing something that is working to something that is broken.

This is comparing two images that do not compare the same aspects, images, source, etc.

CopyCat
12-11-2006, 05:12 PM
Why do you assume the Wii is better in gameplay than the other consoles? I own a Wii, 360 and computer. I find myself playing the computer and 360 all the time while the Wii (Zelda and Sports) collects dust. It is apparent some other people feel differently but to assume that the Wii is better with regards to gameplay is simply a biased opinion.I was comparing it to old console generations. And its not biased, its just an observation in trying to point on the Wiis better qualities.
Its not really fair to put the Wii in a graphics fight when it wasn't made for that...thats all im saying.

I am sure you get more fun out of your 360 and Computer just as much as I am sure people get more fun out of their Wii or PS3. Not trying to say the Wii is better or anything for those reasons.

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 05:13 PM
I don't have the information of the sources so I cannot comment on that, comparing console imagery is never going to be fully apples to apples and like I said earlier, have to do the best we can. Hey if you'd like to make more accurate image comparisons go ahead and I'll comment away!

quadnad
12-11-2006, 05:14 PM
I don't have the information of the sources so I cannot comment on that, comparing console imagery is never going to be fully apples to apples and like I said earlier, have to do the best we can. Hey if you'd like to make more accurate image comparisons go ahead and I'll comment away!

heh, if I had the capture tech I'd be all over it, at least for the GC v Wii titles.

theDreamer
12-11-2006, 05:15 PM
I don't have the information of the sources so I cannot comment on that, comparing console imagery is never going to be fully apples to apples and like I said earlier, have to do the best we can. Hey if you'd like to make more accurate image comparisons go ahead and I'll comment away!


Like I said, you can not do that at this time as there is no way to "compare" yet.
Also, you can compare consoles, use the same input style, same tv, aspect ratio, etc.

But that has not been achieved here in these images, so you can not comment on how well the Wii will truly turn out.

tornadotsunamilife
12-11-2006, 05:17 PM
so you can not comment on how well the Wii will truly turn out.

What do you mean? I'm not suggesting this is the limit of the Wii at all?! It is well known that it requires a few years for developers to unleash the full powers of consoles (see FFXII, RE4)

jaguax
12-11-2006, 05:20 PM
The Wii is not next gen in terms of graphics. Period. Why even make this thread, you know it will turn into flamebait.

Stereophile
12-11-2006, 05:31 PM
Wow.

boomheadshot45
12-11-2006, 05:45 PM
Did Nintendo have the intent to make the Wii the most graphically powerful machine out there? No, it was all about innovation and the remote. If you want really good graphics, then buy a 360 and pick up PGR3, GOW, COD3, R6:V, ect. or a PS3 with Resistence, play the Motorstorm demo, ect.
Stop just posting threads to bash the Wii. It wasn't made for graphics, if it was made for graphics, then you (OP) would be complaining about how the consoles aren't innovative.

Bad_Boy
12-11-2006, 05:55 PM
more like x1.5 so I hear, which isn't terrible if you look at later titles such as RE4..
point taken. I loved RE4. :cool:

Blue Falcon
12-11-2006, 07:01 PM
People people PEOPLE....


The Wii is going to show very little improvement graphics wise considering it's basically a gamecube in new clothes. Same hardware, just clocked 50% faster than the cube.

The big N is and always has been more focused on gameplay innovation than graphical horsepower, and that's more true today than ever before.

BigECB
12-11-2006, 07:45 PM
Based on reality alone, I would give the nod to the Gamecube in the Madden 07 comparison. It accurately reflects how Fred Smoot is usually playing... on his a$$.

/ disgruntled Vikings Fan

Darakian
12-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Metroid, sonic and mario... none are done >_>

Tony hawk is a clear wii win and I would say monkey ball as well.

Cod 3 seems to have better smoke as well as more particles although both look horrid to me. The textures just seem to be cardboard cut outs pasted on the screen :/

I would say madden looks a wee bit better on the wii (lights in the upper right, blur effect, slightly updated/more detailed models, textures on the models looks a bit clearer).

Outside of sonic I would actually say that the ones in development also look better than their gc counter parts, but it's all subjective.