AMD's 4x4 platform and Vista Home editions?

[Hornswoggler]

I was reading the WinSuperSite guide to Vista versions (http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp) (disclaimer: this may be based on beta/RC information... information subject to change for RTM) and noticed the CPU support for the Home (both basic and premium) editions.

Processor support for Home editions is limited to one physical CPU. Now, as I understand it, the upcoming AMD 4x4 platform is a dual socket solution. With this information (again, these are pre-release products, could be subject th change) I would suspect a 4x4 customer who wants to run Vista would require either a Business or Ultimate edition of Vista.

Thoughts?

[tesfaye]

I don't know why they would limit Home PREMIUM to only one processor but the chart says it all. Well, if you want quad processing in Home (whatever edition) then get yourself a quad core Intel chip. I need to do some more reading on this 4X4 stuff. If the 4x4 setup is configured to look like a single socket solution to the operating system then it should work in the home editions of Vista.

Do you plan on buying one of these systems? If so, why?

[Hornswoggler]

Do you plan on buying one of these systems? If so, why?

This spring, I plan on a new system upgrade (including mobo/CPU/DX10 vid card, etc) and would like to install Vista at the same time. Just evaluating my options right now. I could be perfectly happy with a nice core 2 duo setup but always like to keep an eye out for whats coming next so I can make the best/most informed decision.

Jumping from Home Premium to Ultimate would definately add some extra cost to the OS licensing. This is money I could put into a single CPU socket system.

[drizzt81]

While I could say that if you can afford to shell out the cash for a 4x4 system you ought to be able to affort VisatUltimate, I think that such arguments are pointless, since I am not in charge of how you spend your money.

If you are indeed in a situation with Vista Home Basic/ Premium not supporting your 4x4 soultion, I would suggest looking into alternative options such as these:
run VMWare server (free) with multiple OS's run Linux run *BSD run VMWare Workstation (~$100 as a student) on *nix with Win Vista as a VM run WinXP Pro

[danman]

Why would you use a 4x4 with BSD/Linux/Unix? Is tux racer really that demanding?

[brucedeluxe169]

Why would you use a 4x4 with BSD/Linux/Unix? Is tux racer really that demanding?

lol

[IanG]

Seeing as 4x4 is targeting the enthusiast, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say you need the enthusiast's operating system. If you're spending a grand or more on a chip, you can drop the extra for vista ultimate.
http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/474.png (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=474)

[Hornswoggler]

well, i have a couple points:

1. Win2k Pro and WinXP Pro would allow two CPU's... with most of the Vista editions only supporting one physical CPU, I find that disappointing. XP support hyperthreading as well, so up to four virtual CPU's... not sure how it would handle two socket dual cores tho.

2. The stepping up to Vista Ultimate is almost $200 more than Home Premium. This premium in price would have to be considered when comparing price/performance vs other platforms. For the true baller, its chump change... but thats $200 I could put towards a better vid card or something else in life.

3. 4x4 platform is not on my shopping list, just kicking the idea around.

[tesfaye]

Yeah, $160 price difference could go towards games, memory or whatever.

I don't understand how the upgrades for Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate are only within a $100 of each other while a full retail boxed copy of Vista Ultimate is about $160 more expensive than the Home Premium version. I can't believe that they are stripping so much out of Vista Basic and then charging $199 for it. For a BASIC OS that's way too much money. They could have thrown in the new built in games and Aero for $199. Oh well, that's M$ for ya.

I'll be buying premium because I need almost all of the functionality except for MCE.

[Darsideous]

Think about it... Who creates the next gen OS, Microsoft does.
Limiting AMDs use of dual CPUs is the plan so they can sell more
Intel products first while showing better profites in the first 2 Quarters
than AMD

Then they will update the OS later on to alow AMDs dual CPU but
thats only after Intels cornered the market again.

Programming to prevent betters from stomping yo azz is not true
competiton.

Sleezy Azz MS!

[brucedeluxe169]

^ :rolleyes:

[MixManSC]

Updated chart - should be accurate. Looks to be if you had dual, quad core processors you could have a max effective of 8 processors with any version above home basic.


--------------------------------Home Basic - Home Premium - Business - Enterprise - Ultimate
Windows ReadyDrive - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes
Windows ReadyBoost- Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes
64-bit processor support - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes
Maximum RAM (32-bit version) - 4 GB - 4 GB - 4 GB - 4 GB - 4 GB
Maximum RAM (64-bit version) - 8 GB - 16 GB - 128+ GB - 128+ GB - 128+ GB
Physical processor support - 1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2
Processor core support - Unlimited - Unlimited - Unlimited - Unlimited - Unlimited

[Xilikon]

Updated chart - should be accurate. Looks to be if you had dual, quad core processors you could have a max effective of 8 processors with any version above home basic.


--------------------------------Home Basic - Home Premium - Business - Enterprise - Ultimate
Windows ReadyDrive - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes
Windows ReadyBoost- Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes
64-bit processor support - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes - Yes
Maximum RAM (32-bit version) - 4 GB - 4 GB - 4 GB - 4 GB - 4 GB
Maximum RAM (64-bit version) - 8 GB - 16 GB - 128+ GB - 128+ GB - 128+ GB
Physical processor support - 1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2
Processor core support - Unlimited - Unlimited - Unlimited - Unlimited - Unlimited

It make more sense now :) The only change was Home Premium passing from 1 to 2.

What is the source ?